Author Topic: New Flir products (Read 230247 times)

Fraser · « **Reply #325 on:** September 06, 2015, 12:48:21 pm »

Mike,

How does the case come apart please ?

Aurora

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #326 on:** September 06, 2015, 02:00:28 pm »

It's clipped together around the edge of the rear side - plastic spatula round the edge and it comes out easily.
internal screws are Torx security - T5 or T6 I think.
Impressively the internal screws go into brass bushes!

BTW just for fun I used the UsbWebCamera App to connect my E4 ub UVC mode to the phone and it works just fine - framerate and lag are not much worse than on the E4's own screen!

Flir should just hand that setup to the F1 SW devs and tell tehm they can't go home til the F1 is working that well!

Fraser · « **Reply #327 on:** September 06, 2015, 03:14:34 pm »

Thanks Mike.

I have written my letter to FLIR. Just editing it down to its most concise form for impact and speed of reading.

Aurora

Red Squirrel · « **Reply #328 on:** September 06, 2015, 07:44:45 pm »

Hmm so it's very picky with compatibility I guess, and it's a gamble whether it works on a specific device? in the more expensive range how does the E4 gun compare? I'm kinda toying with getting one. Compared to what a lot of thermal guns go for a grand is not all that bad. I guess I have to ask myself, how badly do I really need it. It's more of a toy really, an expensive toy.

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #329 on:** September 07, 2015, 04:36:45 pm »

Flurry of Tweets from Flir in response to my tweet about non-compatibility :

@mikelectricstuf we've updated the Android app and it should be available later today. Please let us know if you have issues with the app!

@mikelectricstuf due to the panoramic feature, there was a resource requirement to have an accelerometer and gyro.

Fraser · « **Reply #330 on:** September 07, 2015, 04:44:55 pm »

No response from FLIR yet on my incomplete and faulty unit though

Fraser
(Aurora)

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #331 on:** September 07, 2015, 07:08:14 pm »

It's some sort of public holiday in the US today - even Digikey aren't shipping!

Fraser · « **Reply #332 on:** September 07, 2015, 08:01:51 pm »

DRAT !

Never mind, I have spent today tidying and playing with my Faxitron X-Ray.

If you have not seen it yet, take a look at my X-Ray images thread

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/the-x-ray-image-thread-by-aurora-various-electronics-via-x-ray-imaging/

Aurora

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #333 on:** September 07, 2015, 08:10:15 pm »

Newapp is up, loads on Moto G. Some new features and a firmware update for the camera (need to do it manually via settings menu).
Now has mode to adjust MSX camera offset for close-up
Frame rate doesn't look any better though.
Also loads on tablet. Framerate no better and it gets the screen rotation wrong.

FlirOneFan · « **Reply #334 on:** September 07, 2015, 08:13:51 pm »

Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on September 07, 2015, 04:36:45 pm

@mikelectricstuf due to the panoramic feature, there was a resource requirement to have an accelerometer and gyro.

Limit the list of supported devices just for that feature? Can't they add a function which enables / disables only panoramic features if accelerometer & gyro are missing...? With a nice and shiny message which explains why it's greyed out?

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #335 on:** September 07, 2015, 08:15:40 pm »

I think they had an old version of the app on Play for reviewers, and didn't update it in time when product shipped.
Latest app has lots more features - not just a change in supported devices

encryptededdy · « **Reply #336 on:** September 07, 2015, 08:33:34 pm »

The Moto G doesn't have a gyro? That's so odd. I thought it did.

EDIT: Only the 4G Moto G has a gyro, the 3G version doesn't.

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #337 on:** September 07, 2015, 09:22:20 pm »

No sign of a panorama feature but maybe it only gets enabled if there's a gyro.
Something it does need is a setting to tell it that it's plugged into the side of a tablet so it rotates correctly, though on mine the USB port faces the wrong way so you can only do thermal selfies.

eug · « **Reply #338 on:** September 08, 2015, 02:30:39 am »

I emailed flir/globalshopex on the 1st and they said they're expecting to receive it on the 10th of Sept. It unexpectedly just turned up today via DHL. I didn't get a tracking number.

It arrived fully sealed, with the spacer included. It works well on the Galaxy S6 and Tab S2 tablet. Haven't had much time to play with it, but it looks good so far!

One thing I noticed is that the cover doesn't fit properly when the spacer is installed. It still stays there, but just doesn't sit totally flush.

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #339 on:** September 08, 2015, 07:46:16 am »

Quote from: eug on September 08, 2015, 02:30:39 am

I emailed flir/globalshopex on the 1st and they said they're expecting to receive it on the 10th of Sept. It unexpectedly just turned up today via DHL. I didn't get a tracking number.

It arrived fully sealed, with the spacer included. It works well on the Galaxy S6 and Tab S2 tablet. Haven't had much time to play with it, but it looks good so far!

One thing I noticed is that the cover doesn't fit properly when the spacer is installed. It still stays there, but just doesn't sit totally flush.

I had 2 email notifications - one the evening of the day I received it, another a few days later!

Fraser · « **Reply #340 on:** September 08, 2015, 11:40:34 am »

@eug,

Regarding the cover fit. The FLIR instructions state that the camera will not fit in the cover when a spacer is used. I have already provided feedback to FLIR and stated that the cover is not that ergonomic and needs some more thought.

Aurora

eug · « **Reply #341 on:** September 08, 2015, 12:13:44 pm »

Quote from: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 11:40:34 am

@eug,
Regarding the cover fit. The FLIR instructions state that the camera will not fit in the cover when a spacer is used. I have already provided feedback to FLIR and stated that the cover is not that ergonomic and needs some more thought.

Oh, I didn't get any instructions with my Android model, except for a sheet of paper that gives a URL (http://flir.com/onestart/).

The full user guide PDF in that link doesn't mention the spacer or cover. It does look like they were in a bit of a rush - one line in the manual says "Optimizing the image is described in more detail in section XYZ." There's no XYZ of course - it's on page 9, which mentions a coffee cup "below" where there's just blank white space.

There's also a sticker on the inside of mine that refers to "Made for iPod" even though it's an Android model. But hey, I'd rather receive it early than wait till they have the right boxes and finish the manual.

I hope the Lock Span feature comes to the Android app soon!

Fraser · « **Reply #342 on:** September 08, 2015, 02:24:24 pm »

Just heard from FLIR CS. They are sending me a new unopened FLIR ONE. Hope it arrives soon.

The content of the boxes seems a little variable. I found the spacer instructions in an on line manual at the FLIR ONE web site I had no paperwork at all with my camera !

Aurora

mct75 · « **Reply #343 on:** September 08, 2015, 05:40:56 pm »

I happened upon this thread via Google, and was wondering if anyone has torn one of these few F1's down yet? I can't find any mention of the "Lepton 2" on FLIR's website, or any way to purchase just the modules. Are the socketed still, or soldered with a BGA-like package for compactness?

Thanks

Fraser · « **Reply #344 on:** September 08, 2015, 06:07:14 pm »

Toploser did a tear down but I'll be damned if I can find it now. It's on this forum though. Sorry I cannot help on that front. With regards to the LEPTON 3, as it is known, it is still socketed but has not been released on its own yet.

Aurora

Fraser · « **Reply #345 on:** September 08, 2015, 06:15:31 pm »

Here you go.....

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-flir-products/msg701170/#msg701170

Aurora

in.Vitro · « **Reply #346 on:** September 08, 2015, 06:33:45 pm »

Do you guys think thats possible to adjust the focus manually by glueing some plastic thingy on the "lens housing"?

mct75 · « **Reply #347 on:** September 08, 2015, 07:23:58 pm »

Quote from: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 06:15:31 pm

Here you go.....

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-flir-products/msg701170/#msg701170

Aurora

Cool! I bet it would be easy to hack it to run off the phone's 5V USB port.

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #348 on:** September 08, 2015, 07:42:29 pm »

Lepton looks the same, though I think lens may be bigger,and it has the shutter
Haven't compared side by side with older one. It is socketed.
Too busy to do proper teardown atm.

encryptededdy · « **Reply #349 on:** September 08, 2015, 08:44:08 pm »

Quote from: mct75 on September 08, 2015, 07:23:58 pm

Quote from: Aurora on September 08, 2015, 06:15:31 pm
Here you go.....

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-flir-products/msg701170/#msg701170

Aurora

Cool! I bet it would be easy to hack it to run off the phone's 5V USB port.

It's actually called the Lepton 3, the previous gen one was Lepton 2 (no idea what Lepton 1 is).

Datasheets;

http://media.wix.com/ugd/53cdb6_5191be73d1c943d78d2e1a095cb7f3b8.pdf
http://media.wix.com/ugd/53cdb6_9b698564a2e84af6a955078615b3a9da.pdf

Same package as the old Lepton.


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