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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
277 (28.1%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.1%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
51 (5.2%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.6%)

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Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown  (Read 4077440 times)

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Offline matmoe

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7575 on: December 22, 2015, 08:13:16 pm »
For your information. I used Windows 10 64Bit for Downgrade. I onlystill have problems with rndis network connections after restarting the camera, also on Win7 64.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7576 on: December 22, 2015, 11:26:51 pm »
Hello everybody! :) I have a very important question. Last year I bought Flir E6. Can I also flash it as E4? :scared:
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7577 on: December 23, 2015, 01:10:39 am »
Certainly, you can NOT.

But you can re-flash it as FLIR E6 :)

Seriously, what hardware/ software versions do you have? Pls. take a look in the menu and write us about the details.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7578 on: December 23, 2015, 08:48:12 am »
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Seriously, what hardware/ software versions do you have? Pls. take a look in the menu and write us about the details.

Model: E6 1.2L
Serial number: 6393XXXX
Software: 2.3.0
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7579 on: December 23, 2015, 11:17:50 am »
Yes I believe this cam can be hacked with the latest hack to get 320x240 resolution. Although, the hack was designed for the E4, so there are potential problems of incompatibility. If you are handy, you can adapt one, and then install the extended menu. However, if you are not too experienced I recommend that somebody help you.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7580 on: December 23, 2015, 02:14:45 pm »
The Flir E4 arrived today, and it has the 2.3.0 firmware. Now lets do the Hack.

Hack Done! Used Win32 Xp.

Now back to the Windows 8.1, installed Flir IR Camera Player 2.3.5, but it can't get image. Anyone with this problem?
Is it possible to record the live stream video with flir tools?

Thanks
Thank you!
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7581 on: December 23, 2015, 02:36:07 pm »
Flir Tools should live stream any E4 via USB. Check you didn't leave the camera in RNDIS mode.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7582 on: December 23, 2015, 02:53:14 pm »
Flir Tools should live stream any E4 via USB. Check you didn't leave the camera in RNDIS mode.

Yes, i can get live stream from flir tools, my question is if it is possible to record the live stream?
Thank you!
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7583 on: December 23, 2015, 03:28:37 pm »
I *think* recording mode is just for E30-E60. Another user came up with this a while back:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/capturing-video-from-flir-e4-to-portable-device/msg365918/#msg365918

That said a UVC stream should be able to be captured using something on your normal PC, never tried it though.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 03:31:19 pm by bookaboo »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7584 on: December 23, 2015, 03:39:04 pm »
Live stream does record with VLC, it is just another video device to it.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7585 on: December 23, 2015, 03:41:37 pm »
Live stream does record with VLC, it is just another video device to it.

humm.. interesting.... i will check this!
Thank you!
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7586 on: December 23, 2015, 03:52:32 pm »
Live stream does record with VLC, it is just another video device to it.

humm.. interesting.... i will check this!

Here we go, did a quick one. Zipped to avoid the annoying filename quirks of SMF. Just extract the inner file, which did not compress at all.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7587 on: December 23, 2015, 03:55:43 pm »
Live stream does record with VLC, it is just another video device to it.

humm.. interesting.... i will check this!

Here we go, did a quick one. Zipped to avoid the annoying filename quirks of SMF. Just extract the inner file, which did not compress at all.

thans for you rtime SeanB.

Are you using USB ou RNDIS?
Thank you!
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7588 on: December 23, 2015, 04:06:39 pm »
Plain USB, though I am using Linux, where the camera shows up as a video device naturally. Still have to get it running properly on Windows, looks like i will have to dig up a Win7 instance instead of the XP one, which I only use when absolutely needed. Hint, it was last booted in 2009 according to the logs......
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7589 on: December 23, 2015, 04:09:37 pm »
Plain USB, though I am using Linux, where the camera shows up as a video device naturally. Still have to get it running properly on Windows, looks like i will have to dig up a Win7 instance instead of the XP one, which I only use when absolutely needed. Hint, it was last booted in 2009 according to the logs......

I'm at work, but as soon i get to home i will try in win 8.1 and them i give feedback!
Thank you!
Regards
ElectricGuy
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7590 on: December 23, 2015, 04:45:08 pm »
My E4 works with Flir IR camera player. I'm using Windows 7 64bit ( i used it to hack my camer too, and it works, i do it several times :)).
But the captured video is mirrored, i don't know why.
 

Offline VincentJ

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7591 on: December 23, 2015, 05:19:12 pm »
I bought my E4 today and sucsesfully downgraded to 2.3.0 from factory installed 2.8.0. Then I followed http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ instructions and semibricked my E4 meaning it never showed in ipconfig and now its not showing in any program. I think I killed its USB interface. E4 works fine but I can't get USB connection establish. I think its stuck on Set_RNDIS_permament.fif.
It only shows up in Device manager (see pic.)

Can someone help?  :-BROKE :-\

EDIT/UPDATE:

Everything is fine now, I just forget to install driver pack... Now I have E4 fully updated to E8 specs and resolution!
Thank You guys for your hard work!  :-+

« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 08:01:23 pm by VincentJ »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7592 on: December 23, 2015, 07:12:17 pm »
Try disconnecting your computer from the network to avoid possible IP address conflict, then connect the camera and check with ipconfig if you have camera IP now showing. If it is there you then can connect to the camera via ftp and delete file

flashfs/system/appcore.d/factory.d/zrndis.rsc

This will return the camera to USB mode after reboot.

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Offline Sofia

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7593 on: December 23, 2015, 07:12:40 pm »
I bought my E4 today and sucsesfully downgraded to 2.3.0 from factory installed 2.8.0. Then I followed http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ instructions and semibricked my E4 meaning it never showed in ipconfig and now its not showing in any program. I think I killed its USB interface. E4 works fine but I can't get USB connection establish. I think its stuck on Set_RNDIS_permament.fif.
It only shows up in Device manager (see pic.)

Can someone help?  :-BROKE :-\



Restore factory settings in the camera you tried?
 

Offline ElectricGuy

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7594 on: December 23, 2015, 08:02:21 pm »
Plain USB, though I am using Linux, where the camera shows up as a video device naturally. Still have to get it running properly on Windows, looks like i will have to dig up a Win7 instance instead of the XP one, which I only use when absolutely needed. Hint, it was last booted in 2009 according to the logs......

I'm at work, but as soon i get to home i will try in win 8.1 and them i give feedback!

SeanB, I got it. It worked well in VLC. Thanks
Thank you!
Regards
ElectricGuy
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7595 on: December 23, 2015, 08:15:54 pm »
2 Vincent,

please give the details... which OS you are running (including SPs)?

What is exact FLIR Tools version you used?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7596 on: December 23, 2015, 08:44:55 pm »
2 Vincent,

please give the details... which OS you are running (including SPs)?

What is exact FLIR Tools version you used?

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 on Dell Latitude D420 laptop
FLIR Tools Version 4.1.14066.1001
FileZilla 3.14.1 and Python 2.7
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7597 on: December 24, 2015, 04:48:11 pm »
I bought my E4 today and sucsesfully downgraded to 2.3.0 from factory installed 2.8.0. Then I followed http://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/ instructions and semibricked my E4 meaning it never showed in ipconfig and now its not showing in any program. I think I killed its USB interface. E4 works fine but I can't get USB connection establish. I think its stuck on Set_RNDIS_permament.fif.
It only shows up in Device manager (see pic.)

Can someone help?  :-BROKE :-\

EDIT/UPDATE:

Everything is fine now, I just forget to install driver pack... Now I have E4 fully updated to E8 specs and resolution!
Thank You guys for your hard work!  :-+

where did you download the 2.3.0 firmware from and how did you get the unit to downgrade from 2.8.0?
 

Offline matmoe

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7598 on: December 24, 2015, 06:28:40 pm »
where did you download the 2.3.0 firmware from and how did you get the unit to downgrade from 2.8.0?
Just start reading from page ~500
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #7599 on: December 25, 2015, 02:02:41 am »
Hi guys, I must be missing something on the downgrade process from 2.8.0 to 2.3.0.  I've read all the pages from 500 to current, as well as the various guides.  I'm following the PDF that matmoe uploaded with instructions on how to downgrade the firmware.  However, in Flir Tools 4.1.14066.1001 when I try and go to Help and then Update, it simply tries to update Flir Tools to 5.3.1XX, not my camera.  I can't get around that.  I've tried disabling my network connection as well, but then I just get an error.  How do I simply downgrade the camera firmware and not Flir Tools itself?

FYI, using Windows 7 32-bit and a Flir E4 1.2L with Serial 639XXXXX.  My camera is currently in standard USB mode, not RNDIS.

Thanks!

edit: I went through the upgrade to 5.3.1XX and then was able to perform the firmware downgrade to 2.3.0 successfully.  I didn't see this mentioned anywhere yet.  I'm completing the remaining steps as we speak.
« Last Edit: December 25, 2015, 02:25:49 am by facesnorth »
 


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