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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
277 (28.1%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.1%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
51 (5.2%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
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Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown  (Read 4118559 times)

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Offline Bud

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5875 on: November 22, 2014, 08:02:55 am »
Can you post how to add palettes?
Yes, this was easy

Thank you my friend, that worked on a native 2.3.0/1.2L
Even that little bit greatly enhances the features, I liked almost all additional palettes.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5876 on: November 22, 2014, 08:36:20 am »
Can you post how to add palettes?
Yes, this was easy

Thank you my friend, that worked on a native 2.3.0/1.2L
Even that little bit greatly enhances the features, I liked almost all additional palettes.

I want to ask how many pallets were added and what?
And what other features have been added?
Thank you for your response.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5877 on: November 22, 2014, 08:54:26 am »
No features beside 5 more palettes

rainbow high contrast
gray white hot
gray black hot
arctic
lava

If it only had manual scale too I would be completely happy.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5878 on: November 22, 2014, 09:22:17 am »
No features beside 5 more palettes

rainbow high contrast
gray white hot
gray black hot
arctic
lava

If it only had manual scale too I would be completely happy.

How about FLIR logo on left bottom of screen?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5879 on: November 22, 2014, 12:42:48 pm »
Thanks janekivi
I added the palettes, it works fine on my 2.3 1.2 E4
FLIR logo on left bottom of screen is still present.
Now, I'll wait for the zoom!
Thanks again for your help and the link!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5880 on: November 22, 2014, 01:05:24 pm »
Thanks janekivi
I added the palettes, it works fine on my 2.3 1.2 E4
FLIR logo on left bottom of screen is still present.
Ok, let's hide it
2.3.0_Menu_3.zip

And some may be wonder, there is no zoom or other stuff in menu files - they do not come visible anyway.
You can check them by tlenet commands:
zoom - rls .caps.config.image.zoom
isotherm - rls .caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm
...and rset in not allowed here. I'm not figured out yet where I can set them.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2015, 05:13:07 pm by janekivi »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5881 on: November 22, 2014, 01:52:59 pm »
Thanks janekivi
I added the palettes, it works fine on my 2.3 1.2 E4
FLIR logo on left bottom of screen is still present.
Ok, let's hide it
2.3.0_Menu_3.zip

And some may be wonder, there is no zoom or other stuff in menu files - they do not come visible anyway.
You can check them by tlenet commands:
zoom - rls .caps.config.image.zoom
isotherm - rls .caps.config.image.sysimg.measureFuncs.isotherm
...and rset in not allowed here. I'm not figured out yet where I can set them.

Logo is gone!
Thanks!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5882 on: November 22, 2014, 02:10:38 pm »
 :)  A massive thanks to all the mega brains on here. Just received my new E4 v2.3 - ran through the idiots guide, after a bit of faffing around with drivers and IP addresses - perfect - full resolution.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5883 on: November 22, 2014, 05:25:29 pm »
hi @ all
i'm a newbie  ;)
can anybody help me? i haven't found the answer in this thread  :-[
after "python apply.py apply 192.168.0.2" there is a backup folder in the python(2.78) directory, but no files in there and
a common_dll file with 0 kb in the python directory was created  :-//
i'm using win 7 64bit..the E4 is 2.3.0, appkit 2.1.2, bootloader 16.1.7.0, confkit E4 1.2L and OsImgkit 18.1.20..
moreover i can't make a backup of my original cfg file from the flashfs/.../..  directory

i'm going confused  :palm:

thanks to all geniuses here  :-+
« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 05:38:37 pm by earzone »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5884 on: November 22, 2014, 09:40:22 pm »
Tell us how much you successfully advanced. Did you install FLIR drivers, did you verify the IP address using ipconfig (on Windows), did you successfully PING the camera's 192.168.0.2 address? Can you FTP to the camera? Not sure what you mean by can't make a backup of my original cfg file from the flashfs/.../..  directory - you cannot connect or you cannot download the file getting some error?
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5885 on: November 23, 2014, 05:30:12 am »
Are you certain you use the correct IP address of the camera?
Check with ipconfig. My IP address showed up as different from the instructions and I went with what ipconfig showed. Worked like a charm  :-+
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5886 on: November 23, 2014, 09:28:58 am »
Tell us how much you successfully advanced. Did you install FLIR drivers, YES
 did you verify the IP address using ipconfig (on Windows),YES ITS 192.168.0.2
 did you successfully PING the camera's 192.168.0.2 address? YES PING IS OK
Can you FTP to the camera? YES VIA TOTAL COMMANDER
Not sure what you mean by can't make a backup of my original cfg file from the flashfs/.../..  directory -
you cannot connect or you cannot download the file getting some error? I CAN CONNECT BUT THE DOWNLOAD LASTS VERY LONG AND THEN I ONLY GET A FILE WITH 0 KB
Are you certain you use the correct IP address of the camera? YES ITS 192.168.0.2
Check with ipconfig. My IP address showed up as different from the instructions and I went with what ipconfig showed. Worked like a charm  :-+
thank you for your help :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5887 on: November 23, 2014, 10:23:41 am »
Thanks janekivi for your menu hack - so easy to install.   What next?????

I added the palettes, it works fine on my 2.3 1.2 E4 and no pesky logo anymore.


Flir install has a 'camera backup' button but it asks for a fif file for it - does anyone know where this can be found?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5888 on: November 23, 2014, 11:19:22 am »
is it possible to download the original conf.cfg file from flashfs/.. directory via ftp?
in wich usb mode can i do this? rndis? or another mode?
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 11:33:35 am by earzone »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5889 on: November 23, 2014, 12:14:08 pm »
RNDIS mode and filezilla will let you do that. Back up everything and tread carefully if modding files!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5890 on: November 23, 2014, 01:11:07 pm »
The Flir sale is on..... but no good deals! Well they are doing $100 off a Flir One if you were in the market (now $249)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 01:12:42 pm by gemrough »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5891 on: November 23, 2014, 01:37:10 pm »
Ok, let's hide it

2.3.0_Menu_3.zip

Is this zipfile  the full menue hack for the 2.3.0 1,2L , or only the removed Logo? If yes, how to install it best?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5892 on: November 23, 2014, 02:09:49 pm »
Being that the Seek for iOS is endlessly delayed. Looks like a new E4 is on tap. Watching to see what kind of deals pop-up over the next week...

Big thumbs up to the guys that figured out the resolution hack.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5893 on: November 23, 2014, 03:22:14 pm »
@KK

I have both the SEEK and the E4 and can definitely recommend the E4 over the current SEEK offering. You will not be disappointed with an E4. I know the SEEK is much cheaper but sometimes you have to spend a little more to get decent image quality especially now that the firmware 2.3 can be upgraded to 320x240 pixels.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5894 on: November 23, 2014, 03:33:42 pm »
i'm going crazy  |O theres no way to download files from the e4 to pc via ftp (filezilla / total commander).
any ideas?  :-[

i tried to download another file from temp directory.. always the same..
"RETR postlog.txt"
answer:   125 Data connection already open; transfer starting.
answer:   226 Closing data connection.

the file postlog.txt was downloaded but has 0kb
:(
 
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 03:49:18 pm by earzone »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5895 on: November 23, 2014, 03:44:47 pm »
i'm going crazy  |O theres no way to download files from the e4 to pc via ftp (filezilla / total commander).
any ideas?  :-[
Do you have a firewall that interferes with the ftp data connection?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5896 on: November 23, 2014, 03:50:20 pm »
switch to a different computer... I would recommend Win XP if you have access to one.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5897 on: November 23, 2014, 03:54:48 pm »
i'm going crazy  |O theres no way to download files from the e4 to pc via ftp (filezilla / total commander).
any ideas?  :-[
Do you have a firewall that interferes with the ftp data connection?


i#ve stopped kaspersky and windows firewall.. nothing happens..

ok.. i'll try via XP
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5898 on: November 23, 2014, 03:56:11 pm »
I have both the SEEK and the E4 and can definitely recommend the E4 over the current SEEK offering. You will not be disappointed with an E4. I know the SEEK is much cheaper but sometimes you have to spend a little more to get decent image quality especially now that the firmware 2.3 can be upgraded to 320x240 pixels.

I looked at SEEK, FLIR One, FLIR Ex and I made my decision based  on the following:

SEEK is a device specific to a mobile platform. If you buy one for your Android phone today, how long it may be until there is no Android phones anymore, or there is no Apple anymore, or there is no USB on cell phones anymore, or - whatever. I would not be able to use the SEEK hardware then anymore. Without a upstream host it is dead, Same applies to FLIR One iPhone-only device.

FLIR E4 is a standalone device. It can live on its own 10 years from now. It has its own battery and screen. Can be used for many applications where there is no need to ever connect the camera to a computer.

I think FLIR E4 has a much better long-term value in that regard.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5899 on: November 23, 2014, 03:57:13 pm »
@KK

I have both the SEEK and the E4 and can definitely recommend the E4 over the current SEEK offering. You will not be disappointed with an E4. I know the SEEK is much cheaper but sometimes you have to spend a little more to get decent image quality especially now that the firmware 2.3 can be upgraded to 320x240 pixels.

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For the moment for $800 more than Seek one gets with Flir E4 $1000 only thermal blobs enhanced by higher resolution visual camera  as official product :-DD
amazon: FLIR E4: Compact Thermal Imaging Camera with 80 x 60 IR Resolution and MSX
This is officially available upgrade supported by Flir or only hacking cracking crying, etc,  to get this magic 320x240 thermal scene?
If only hacked version than you have to pray with each Flir software upgrade if you will be able hack this resolution in next versions too, else this thing will be able only show thermal blobs at oryginal 80x60 resolution  :palm:
Seek with gradient issues corrected and own open source software which will enable something similar  to Flirs  MSX easy and at much higher resolution can be Flir killer soon, while no strange menu hacking needed and everyone can write his own application and add functions that will never be available in Flir software.
For the moment without any development tools it is possible get realtime thermal imaginery from Seek Thermal Android connected to PC Linux/Windows or Android tablet -only one need to make adjustments to those gradients in the corners, but it is clear that Seek will also improve hardware soon and while even now it is available to use this dongle at Windows and Linux systems with own software without any hacking oryginal software it is much more interesting option if someone wants more than only this what comes with Flir soft...

SEEK is a device specific to a mobile platform.
Nope, people are able connect it via USB  to PC Linux/Windows and probably any other OS.
Now it is even possible by writing only a few lines of C/C++/Python code without any Seek official development tools  >:D
So, it can be easy integrated even now with The Ångström Distribution (Linux) and turn small Linux PCB into... thermal image source distributed by wifi etc.. Endless posibilities right now for everyone  :o

Note: there is latest example of Python code which grabs thermal frames in realtime via USB directly from Seek Thermal Android version $200  and all what we need more is to know a little bit better protocol to get fully functional open source thermal app available at any OS
eevblog: Yet another cheap thermal imager incoming Seek Thermal -Python images raw sensor data dump to 16bit 208x156 PNGs
It is as simple as reading USB mouse data  :-+
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