Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown

[pomonabill221]

And the resolution?   A BLAZING 80x60!
WOW.... can't WAIT to get my hands on THAT one.... MUST be better than my E4 (E8+)

[emptech]

I googled "android infrared camera."  One of the hits was from a product called "Therm-App."  They want $999 for the device.  They claim a resolution of 384 x 288, the company is "Opgal."  Is this the same device you have ordered?

Jim

I ordered one yesterday (Android) but they won't start shipping until the app is in the Google Play Store.
Timeline 2 weeks for Android, 3 for IOS.

Btw it's 6.6 times higher res but no optical camera, but higher res sensor, and can measure beyond boiling and freezing water.

I also signed in for the developers SDK.

[mikeselectricstuff]

I googled "android infrared camera."  One of the hits was from a product called "Therm-App."  They want $999 for the device.  They claim a resolution of 384 x 288, the company is "Opgal."  Is this the same device you have ordered?

No - Seek Thermal
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/yet-another-cheap-thermal-imager-incoming/msg520493/#msg520493

[MJFNJ]

Please forgive my ignorance. I have searched and I'm not sure I found the correct answer. Can I use Flir tools with a hacked E4? Any chance of a problem doing it.
Perhaps the better question would be what is the best software to produce reports with the hacked E4. I have read about Daves  software but then unable to find it.
Thank you in advance for your help.
MJFNJ

[DaveWB]

Please forgive my ignorance. I have searched and I'm not sure I found the correct answer. Can I use Flir tools with a hacked E4? Any chance of a problem doing it.
Perhaps the better question would be what is the best software to produce reports with the hacked E4. I have read about Daves  software but then unable to find it.
Thank you in advance for your help.
MJFNJ

Using Flir Tools will be no problem, however watch out it will ask you to update so make sure you decline.

[MJFNJ]

 Thank you. Can an yone point me towards Daves reporting software?
Thanks,
MJFNJ

Please forgive my ignorance. I have searched and I'm not sure I found the correct answer. Can I use Flir tools with a hacked E4? Any chance of a problem doing it.
Perhaps the better question would be what is the best software to produce reports with the hacked E4. I have read about Daves  software but then unable to find it.
Thank you in advance for your help.
MJFNJ

Using Flir Tools will be no problem, however watch out it will ask you to update so make sure you decline.

[miguelvp]

Thank you. Can an yone point me towards Daves reporting software?
Thanks,
MJFNJ

I don't know what reporting software you are talking about and what Dave in particular,
There is some software that joe-c posted a while back:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg439848/#msg439848

[3roomlab]

Hi Guys,

First time writing here
I was a friend of Camera modifications too.
I wrote a remote control Software for the FLIR Ex (I also really link the Exx, but it is financial out of range).
Here is the Description: http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_ex_tools_158.php

A Copy is now selling for 30€ on ebay: http://www.ebay.de/itm/201086125469
(try to compensate a bricked E4, after trying to flash 1.18.7 to a 1.22 Camera ... Device was sent to FLIR for repair)

Additional...happy hacking

marvelous work. its like putting DIP switches to everything that can ever be flipped on the soft side. but since on 1.22 the FLIR seems jammed, i am guessing you cant really use this on any 1.22? i see that there is some korean words, hmmm some korean modded the mod software too?

[comanche3]

 I would need a Video PAL/NTSC out on the E4, do you think it is possible ? To hold a small camera against the LCD seems to be a way, but not the best 

[mikeselectricstuff]

I would need a Video PAL/NTSC out on the E4, do you think it is possible ? To hold a small camera against the LCD seems to be a way, but not the best 

ISTR Someone did this using a Raspberry Pi - I think it was more aimed at recording, but as RasPi has composite out it should be possible to display via that

[MJFNJ]

Is there a way to record video on a modified E4?

Thanks,
MJFNJ

[mikeselectricstuff]

Is there a way to record video on a modified E4?

Thanks,
MJFNJ

Only via USB on  a PC, raspi etc.

[Relaxe]

Hello all,

I have an E40, does the same trick applies to update it to E60?

[mikeselectricstuff]

Hello all,

I have an E40, does the same trick applies to update it to E60?

Yes. We don't know if they've released any countermeasured firmware for the Ex0 models

[nowlan]

Is the current E4 totally gimped?
All this talk for thermal cameras has perked my interest again, but Im still not able to justify a grand for a novelty.
Perhaps the $200 seek will satiate my curiosity, but may be best to wait and see what reviews say.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Is the current E4 totally gimped?

Only in the sense that nobody's yet figured out a hack, however I don't think anyone's tried that hard yet as there are still a few older units around.

[sofisticated]

Yes that's right, I think pros in here don't have a new unit to dig inside. Maybe I should send mine to 

By the way, I'm playing with new 2.3fw E4 and it looks like I can not even understand the encryption in it , (I'm a vet who likes to open gadgets and trying to be a midnight cave engineer  ).

So let me give my primitive observations from my experiences for last 2 weeks:

By the help of Thomas (TurboTom) i could reach file system at least. "1235" Eeprom pasword is not working in my device with web service of device(But Thomas's device was updated old device and he could use that password to reach Eeprom settings). Now I'm trying to make a Brute Force attack to Eeprom Unlock screen with "Burp Suite". My problem is; Burp is sending passwords but reaction from web service is not look like returning with any answer. I'm using number wordlists etc with 4-5-6 character combinations. Is it possible other letter characters to be in EEPROM Unlock password?

If anyone knows the best way to make Brute Force attack to web based EEPROM setting screen I would appreciate the advice.

Maybe you can think "why to unlock Eeprom?". Reason is; I want to try changing E4 name to E8 and make a update if it works.


Tugbay




 

[leafman]

Just out of curiosity, as I haven't read all 370+ pages of this thread, has anyone looked at the update files that are left on the internal memory after a firmware update. 

Reason I asked is they seem to get extracted on there and i was able to copy them off on my mac without issue.  I was updating a 2.1 unit to 2.3 since it wouldn't even connect on windows.  If anyone is interested hit me up and I'll see about hosting them some place, its about 50mb. 

I already have a hacked e4-e8, this one was for work and while hacking it would've been nice we were happy to just get it 'working', I took a couple quick pokes, but I couldn't trigger the update routine to run again but tbh, i spent about 2 minutes trying.

[anthonyy]

Hi guys, just to confirm the new 2.3 firmware hasn't been hacked yet?
I ordered a new one from flir's website and was hoping I could update the resolution.

[bookaboo]

There are still 1.22.0 units available (ebay is one source) which is probably why no one has bothered to attempt cracking 2.3.0 yet.

[Chanc3]

Just seen a thermal imaging company post this up: http://www.iredltd.co.uk/palettes/

Nice little app for making custom palettes!

EDIT: OK, it's quite basic, but it does allow you to make your own palette which you can import into FLIR tools. Works a treat with my E60.

[frenky]

Not bad (1minute iron palette):


I should put something like that on my site http://html-color-codes.info/ (shameless advertising, but the site is free to use)...
 

[Chanc3]

Not bad (1minute iron palette):


I should put something like that on my site http://html-color-codes.info/ (shameless advertising, but the site is free to use)...

I didn't realise Ironbow had red in it! Looks good though - I wonder if I can create a better high contrast rainbow...

Love the fact it exports as .pal

[Fraser]

I am assuming that this is 'on-line' only as I did not see a download option. it is the sort of utility that I like to keep backed up in case the web site disappears or the owner decides to remove it. Hopefully unlikely in this case though.

Aurora

[Hephaestus]

The market seems to have dried up for pre-2.x.x E4s. Cheapest on ebay is going for $1700 unmodified. What is the liklihood that a hack for the newer firmware will be developed?
If it isn't likely and I'm forced to buy a low resolution camera, I'll probably just go with a Fluke which I can much cheaper from my local supply house. -1 for FLIR.