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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
277 (28.1%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.1%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
51 (5.2%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.6%)

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Offline mucek

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5425 on: August 31, 2014, 05:30:47 pm »
Have E40, oops, I meant E60 as well :)

No MSX for me as well: unfortunattly can't be done via hack. Though what you get is a higher resolution (320x240) as well as ThermalFusion option (with E40 you only have PiP).

What I did (check like 10-20 pages back for my posts and files) is that I took files, that one published (from E60), changed serial to mine, calculated CRC using CRC01.exe and enter it as described.

With E40 there's even nicer approach - use WLAN and ftp to access files. No need for USB & RDNIS! :)

Regards,
Gregor
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5426 on: August 31, 2014, 10:10:25 pm »

I am completely unable to connect through filezilla,  winscp,  or smartftp.   I change networks,  disable adapters and Ive tried all usb modes but nothing.   password and user name are correct- I've tried all the different host names.
Ipconfig /all shows me IPv that is not 192.168.0.2 and nothing for a defauly gateway (for flir)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

This is after having been able to load a crc file previously,  so the drivers are (I think) correct.


the TIC shows up in FLIR TOOLS under instruments as well as a video feed in FLIR Player, but when I click IMPORT there is no camera/sd card, no matter what rain dances I do.  Not to mention no FTP in any form....
any help?
windows 8.1 x64   current FLIR drivers/tools/player 
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 02:35:45 am by chriseparent »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5427 on: September 01, 2014, 07:10:06 am »
I assume you are working through USB.
Did you switch to RDNIS mode (hidden menu)?
Try also disable Windows firewall ... Sometimes it's a pain in the ass ...
What about accessing it through WLAN?

Regards,
Gregor
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5428 on: September 01, 2014, 12:55:22 pm »
Yes rndis,  disabled firewall,  all other networks..... Everything.
How does one use wlan to connect?  I dont ever see a default gateway or connected network with the flir e4......
I actually got ftp to work one time last night after 10 hours at it,  but no connection since.  I will be blowing off any duties I have today to spend another 10 hours becauae I think I hace the right cfc file finally....
 
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 12:58:03 pm by chriseparent »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5429 on: September 01, 2014, 01:34:02 pm »
Hmm, you have E4 or E40? (I was thinking of the second)
I assume you already try hard reset few times? :)

If you have E40, you connect it to your WLAN through Settings, then just check on router for camera's IP and establish FTP connection to it.

Regards,
Gregor
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5430 on: September 01, 2014, 02:46:42 pm »
Thanks for the help.  Its an e4 though.
I have tried resets.   Powering off,  unplugging the cable,  unplugging the battery,  reinserting the battery and then powering back on when the cable is plugged back into the usb port.  Different usb ports or the same,  it doesn't matter,  no ftp.
I am using a usb tether to get networking for filezilla and winscp.   I am thinking that might be an issue,  and the couple of times I was able to connect was purely by chance.
ThermaCam shows me its connecting,  and the 2 times I did connect ThermaCam showed me "ircam5" and "192.168.0.2" it was like magic had just occurred.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 04:44:24 pm by chriseparent »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5431 on: September 01, 2014, 06:39:23 pm »
I finally got it.
100 laptop/modem/TIC restarts for 1 ftp session,  but I reinstalled the e4 config and then used TIconfig.exe to upload the e8 config and menu hack.   Works beatifully and after seeing thr results there's no question the hours,  days,  and even weeks I spent on this project was all worth it.
I feel like I just had a baby.

Thanks to everybody for the help.
I have learned a lot through the difficult process,  which seemed so easy before I actually tried it.....  :)
I cant find the donation link on this page.....
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5432 on: September 01, 2014, 08:43:04 pm »
Congrats!
Know this feeling very well!!! :) :) :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5433 on: September 01, 2014, 09:11:56 pm »
Congrats!
Know this feeling very well!!! :) :) :)

A big 'ol :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5434 on: September 02, 2014, 01:37:38 am »
conf files
Sorry wasn't able to get on lately, hope this helps.
RENAME IT TO conf_new.cfc (site wouldn't let me upload a .cfc) and upload to camera. You should see all the features.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5435 on: September 02, 2014, 02:53:06 am »
I connected the camera as RNDIS  using  flirs tool FLIRInstallNet  and Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif  from this forum.
I downloaded the file conf.cfg from my flir e4 using FileZilla.   (ip: 192.168.0.2  user: flir  pass: 3vlig  )
In Notepad I've changed:
". caps.config.image.settings.IRwidth int32 80
. caps.config.image.settings.IRheight int32 60 "
to
". caps.config.image.settings.IRwidth int32 320
. caps.config.image.settings.IRheight int32 240"
I've Fixed checksum using crc01.exe ( tool from this forum).

I switched the original file. After the restart i have 320x240 resolution in thermovision.

My conf.cfg was not encrypted.
My camera info: 
Model:   E4 1.1
serial:  639xxxxx
part number: 63901-0101
software  2.3.0

Funny thing... My caps.config.image.settings.IRwidth and IRheight was already set to 320x240 when I opened FlashFS/system/service/appcore.d/config.d/conf.cfg. I still get 80x60 resolution though.

Could you provide more detail on how you went about doing this?

Model:   E4 1.1L
Serial:  639xxxxx
Part number: 63901-0101
software  2.3.0
Yi Yao
 

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Flir E40 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5436 on: September 02, 2014, 03:06:46 am »
I have a camera that is FLIR E40 (without MSX).

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/2835/
Read through the article above, I was able to see that the FLIR E40 can be utilized as E60.

As it turned out, just two files are changed, those are conf.cfg and ui.cfg.
However, there was no changes in resolution, rather doesn’t work, display JPEG files. Was I wrong?
Despite the fact that I fixed both of them, one of the menus of controlling “Spot” disappeared.
How can I fix it. Is there any proper way to do it?

And further, a key question, that is about connecting to the FTP.
For FTP connection as RNDIs modification on E40, I knew that press the menu button, then “play” button for 10 seconds.

Is it a correct method to do it?

If you have a solution, please let me know.     


Model : Flir E40 (without MSX)
Serial : 4903XXXX
Part Number : 49001-2001
« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 03:10:37 am by cdmanii »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5437 on: September 02, 2014, 03:52:24 am »
conf files
Sorry wasn't able to get on lately, hope this helps.
RENAME IT TO conf_new.cfc (site wouldn't let me upload a .cfc) and upload to camera. You should see all the features.

Thanks very much for the help.  I really appreciate it.   
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5438 on: September 02, 2014, 05:29:16 am »
You hacked a 2.3.0 ?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5439 on: September 02, 2014, 05:45:27 am »
You hacked a 2.3.0 ?

  no hacked yet for 2.3.0 fw.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5440 on: September 02, 2014, 06:49:50 am »
@cdmanii
I replaced 4 files, though serial number was only in 2 if I remember correctly.

JPEGs always (!) have 320x240 resolution, though you can see from the images comparision, that one image is way more "grainy" than the other.

What I was doing wrong is, that I only renamed original files (and add modified ones), not deleting them. As Flir uses some stupid system (if I remember correctly it looks by alphabet and looking for i.e. 15th file), it took wrong file.

Another stupid thing was, that I calculated CRC wrong for one file once (all files have same name, just are put in different directories).

About RDNIS you are right (settings menu, where version is displayed, then RIGHT (not play if I remember well!) button for 10 s), but with E40 you actually don't need it! Just connect camera to your home WLAN and then access to it via FTP.

Simplest "check" if you did E60 out of E40 is, that you check if "Thermal fusion" option is avalible. And offcourse in menu.


Hope this helps!

Regards,
Gregor
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5441 on: September 02, 2014, 11:23:03 am »
O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0

has anyone located a source for 3d printed TELEPHOTO lens for the E4?
(US supplier or will ship to the US)

 |O |O

Do you have the file?  I could look at it and maybe print it.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5442 on: September 02, 2014, 12:28:40 pm »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5443 on: September 02, 2014, 01:33:32 pm »
You hacked a 2.3.0 ?

  no hacked yet for 2.3.0 fw.

   I might get my ordered for Flir E4 this week and dan Amazon.ca free 2 days ship look like a week to ship out.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 07:57:59 pm by Tom9999 »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5444 on: September 02, 2014, 04:40:44 pm »
The price of the FLIR E4-B has gone up to $849: http://www.tequipment.net/FLIR/E4-B/Building-and-Industrial-Thermal-Imagers

Perhaps the $799 price was part of an introductory sale or something. But what's strange is that one part of the website says the maximum temperature that the E4-B can measure is 100° C, while another part says it's 150° C. Anyone know what's up?

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5445 on: September 02, 2014, 08:40:09 pm »
Has anyone figured out how to remove the FLIR logo from images post Menu3 hack?
I am amazed I can import images into FLIR tools using MSD&UVC.   I can even load them onto my phone and adjust the pallette.  Incredible. 
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5446 on: September 02, 2014, 09:57:55 pm »
My E4 1.22 got stolen :'( :'(
Just bought a new one but came with the 1.23..
I read there is not hack yet, do you guys think that there will be one soon?

Thanks for the incredible job you have done.. i really enjoyed my old E4 upgraded to E8, now is very hard to go back.

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5447 on: September 02, 2014, 11:35:21 pm »
My E4 1.22 got stolen :'( :'(
Just bought a new one but came with the 1.23..
I read there is not hack yet, do you guys think that there will be one soon?

Thanks for the incredible job you have done.. i really enjoyed my old E4 upgraded to E8, now is very hard to go back.

  Someone did E4 2.3.0 FW hacked and look back few posts.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5448 on: September 03, 2014, 12:23:05 am »
I think that was only for an old 1.1L device that was running the new firmware. The new 1.2L hardware probably contains additional countermeasures to prevent the hack.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5449 on: September 03, 2014, 01:00:48 am »
  that mean less chance to get board with 1.1L now.
Thank you
 


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