Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown

[mikeselectricstuff]

Just to note, the e4hack3a.zip file doesn't have the camera.cmd file -- I had to pull it from my "backup" copy of e4hack3.zip.

Oops - fixed.

[olsenn]

I wonder if I will be able to use my, hopefully soon to arrive, E4->E8 to see if women are "in heat"! I'll bring all new meaning to FLIRting.

[tnt]

Well, it's not rocket science ... I'd guess that any area that it pressed tighter against the clothes are going to transmit more heat them more and show up brighter.

[olsenn]

Maybe the good bits emit more heat in the first place

[ixfd64]

I wonder if I will be able to use my, hopefully soon to arrive, E4->E8 to see if women are "in heat"! I'll bring all new meaning to FLIRting.

Haha, good one!

Whilst demonstrating an early Agema 880 TIC, I was under strict instructions to not point the camera at ladies. They apparently tend to glow in embarrassing places !

Now you're really giving us ideas.

[tnt]

Maybe the good bits emit more heat in the first place

For her sake, I hope not.

Apparently increased temperature in the breasts means increased blood flow / abnormal vascular pattern which can indicate cancer. It's actually used as a diagnostic test less invasive than mammograms.

[lewis]

So despite already owning a Ti10, ordered an E4 from Pass last night. Got a call today though saying they were out of stock until Monday. Let's see what happens!

Kudos to Mike and others for the excellent bit of reverse engineering. Send your invoices to Flir - you've earned the commission.

[Scutarius]

Does anybody with experience in this kind of products.

Assuming that FLIR has already a firmware fix, how many time do other people have to buy one? Do you think that sellers that are out of stock are getting non-hackable units soon?
Most of the sites referred here are getting units in 10 days, they said...

[plesa]

http://www.tequipment.net/ changed the shippng estimation for my Flir E4  few hours ago
from
To Be Shipped On 11/20/2013 (Old Estimate: 11/7/2013)
To
Shipped On 12/4/2013 (Old Estimate: 11/20/2013)

[olsenn]

My tequipment.net order got updated this evening from "Estimated Ship Date: 11/06/2013" to "Estimated Ship Date: 11/07/2013". I honestly don't get why they would keep updating the estimated ship date to the current day if they had no plans on shipping it then. Evening if it was to ship today, just wait until it has shipped and then update the status to "shipped"

[Rasz]

It would appear that UK sellers are in a tighter spot than US ones. I was told that discounts on the higher models were definitely a possibility but the margins on the low end E4 were so tight for them that they could do very little, if anything, for me on their GBP796+VAT price. PASS are discounting the E5 at the moment so they obviously do discount. It looks more and more like OMEGA made a pricing error. I pushed a little harder for a discount and exceptionally secured one based on my past good custom

I have a bridge to sell you.

[ron]

 Post 524 says:

"e4hack3b.zip (102.46 kB - downloaded 2 times.)"

What's up with that?  I've downloaded it more than 2 times myself. 

[BravoV]

Post 524 says:

e4hack3b.zip (102.46 kB - downloaded 2 times.)

What's up with that?  I've downloaded it more than 2 times myself. 

Check post #913

[ron]

Post 524 says:

e4hack3b.zip (102.46 kB - downloaded 2 times.)

What's up with that?  I've downloaded it more than 2 times myself. 

Check post #913

Yeah, that's why I downloaded it a 3rd time.  I didn't notice the rev. "b".

[ron]

Does anyone else think it would be nice to get that FLIR logo of of the lower left corner of the image?

[scibit]

http://www.tequipment.net/ changed the shippng estimation for my Flir E4  few hours ago
from
To Be Shipped On 11/20/2013 (Old Estimate: 11/7/2013)
To
Shipped On 12/4/2013 (Old Estimate: 11/20/2013)

That sucks.
Mine still says "On Hold"

[ixfd64]

Does anybody with experience in this kind of products.

Assuming that FLIR has already a firmware fix, how many time do other people have to buy one? Do you think that sellers that are out of stock are getting non-hackable units soon?
Most of the sites referred here are getting units in 10 days, they said...

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but FLIR doesn't have much to gain by "fixing" this as most professional users of thermal cameras probably aren't going to use hacked devices. If anything, this has greatly boosted FLIR's E4 sales.

[Scutarius]

Does anybody with experience in this kind of products.

Assuming that FLIR has already a firmware fix, how many time do other people have to buy one? Do you think that sellers that are out of stock are getting non-hackable units soon?
Most of the sites referred here are getting units in 10 days, they said...

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but FLIR doesn't have much to gain by "fixing" this as most professional users of thermal cameras probably aren't going to use hacked devices. If anything, this has greatly boosted FLIR's E4 sales.

I count on this, mine is on hold too 

[madshaman]

I ordered from flir-direct.com, they claimed to have a unit in stock in Montreal.  I've never dealt with these people; hopefully I won't have the hassle of having to get my credit card company to reverse the transaction.

Anyone else do the same?  Apologies if this site has been mentioned, I'm still reading the thread and did do a forum search for them.  Honestly, I jumped right on the first non-completely-sketchy site that claimed to have stock.

(I'm also still cobbled by my bandwidth (in outskirts of Dar es Salaam).  My SO has an interview in a few days where we'll be moving to a hotel in the city centre with a decent connection, I'll have to catch up on everything then ^^')

[Pinkus]

I ordered from flir-direct.com, they claimed to have a unit in stock in Montreal.  I've never dealt with these people; hopefully I won't have the hassle of having to get my credit card company to reverse the transaction.

Don't worry. I ordered another 2 units there too and according to the tracking they are already in customs. Of course flir-direct.com does not mean that here Flir sells directly. As you said, it is a Canadian dealer (also owning fluke-direct.com and many other ....-direct websites).
Hint: Check out their value added package called E4-Kit= same price but you will get more for your money. By this they avoid to lower the price below RRP but give some useful extra devices for humidity, dew-point calculation etc. worth another $70..... and they give quantity discount.

Oh - and they do ship internationally without bullsh*-excuses such as "Flir does not allow" or "it is against the law".
Edit: btw: they do intl. shipping by TNT by an unbeatable price (2 E4 KIT packages for $130).

Hint 2: The more you put in you cart (starting at quantitiy of 2) the lower the price gets.

[ixfd64]

Like I said earlier, we really need a group buy!

[Pinkus]

Like I said earlier, we really need a group buy!

I assume: anybody interested in an E4 buys one by themselves immediately before they are out of stock everywhere and being replaced by an E4 with an "improved" firmware. It often just takes too long to settle a group buy and gather all the money. What you may do: buy 5 and sell them for +$50 each. By this you have your group buy and you are lowering the price for your own unit at the same time by $200.
Edit: you may also buy 5 now, wait a month or two (until they are not hackable anymore) and then sell then for +$500 each

[Taucher]

Short status update:
found the place where the icons are stored  .. rcc file in ui.d (sleeping helps a lot)
facet_z3.rcc is beeing detected by ui_control.rsc

Code: [Select]

.ui.setup.control.qml_rcc text "\FlashBFS\system\ui.d\facet_*.rcc"Flir uses a QT based frontend (Nokia QT4 libs) ... a quick binwalk (see attachment) shows locations of all used icons/graphics and "strings -e b <file>" gave some metainformation on included filenames.

If anybody has more experience in QT and resource editing: please feel free to contribute some help

EDIT1: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/resources.html
EDIT2: This looks like right direction ... use QT to load and store resources ... http://www.progtown.com/post24427765.html#p24427765

[tealsuki]

If I had more than $5 to my name (I blame Jeri Ellsworth), I'd certainly consider investing in an E4. Regardless, I'm always happy to read 63 page threads where secrets are unearthed, hacking ensues, and just a general discussion on how to make good products even better occurs.

Thanks to Mike and all the other folks in this thread!

[Pinkus]

Short status update:
found the place where the icons are stored  .. rcc file in ui.d (sleeping helps a lot)
facet_z3.rcc is beeing detected by ui_control.rsc

Code: [Select]

.ui.setup.control.qml_rcc text "\FlashBFS\system\ui.d\facet_*.rcc"Flir uses a QT based frontend (Nokia QT4 libs) ... a quick binwalk (see attachment) shows locations of all used icons/graphics and "strings -e b <file>" gave some metainformation on included filenames.

If anybody has more experience in QT and resource editing: please feel free to contribute some help

EDIT1: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/resources.html
EDIT2: This looks like right direction ... use QT to load and store resources ... http://www.progtown.com/post24427765.html#p24427765

While I cannot help you guys with the Windows CE internals, I might be able to provide nice icons if needed. Just tell me what size you need and for what function you need it. I then can provide them if you are able to include them so CE uses them. I would also need to know if you need two icons (selected / not selected) or if CE does this automatically.