Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown

[OrBy]

More of a FYI - I have been making some videos with the FLIR and tossing some of them up on youtube. Please go easy on me - video editing is not what I would call one of my top skills... 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCeE9hjpbFWpw3KoGjfP_yw

[jpcjguy]

Can you identify firmware by serial number?

[tjb1]

Can you identify firmware by serial number?

There was a list of camera serials and what firmware they had but it's not being updated anymore due to FLIR attacking I believe.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428

[mikeselectricstuff]

Can you identify firmware by serial number?

There was a list of camera serials and what firmware they had but it's not being updated anymore due to FLIR attacking I believe.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428

Nothing to stop others adding some data points to that thread though.

[kuna]

Can you identify firmware by serial number?

You can go up to 6392 61xx, maybe more.

[Fraser]

The last confirmed 'upgradeable' unit on which I received information is detailed below:

6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

If FLIR recalled any retailer stock (as they have in the past) for retro fitting with the later 2.x firmware, the serial number may not guarantee anything. I have not seen a confirmed case of such however. It was discovered that an 'old stock' camera that had FW 2.x retro fitted by FLIR (after a repair) could still be upgraded as the encryption was not active on such a unit.

My serial number Vs fw revision list in the 'useful information thread' is still useable in identifying serial numbers that should be pre fw2.x when originally built. If others know of later serial numbers that contained pre fw2.x they may wish to post but I will not be updating the list in my thread.

Aurora

[mutzgrila]

Flir recommends to send the thermocamera to calibrate once a year.
But probably they will update my firmware version 1.2.2 to 2.x.x, and then, the hack will not work.
Is there anywhere else to calibrate?
thks

[Fraser]

There are many calibration houses for thermal cameras. Which country are you in ?

[JFA]

I have two remaining E4 v1.22.0  1.1L, unregistered, registerable, never used units for sale. 

[jpcjguy]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

[tjb1]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

[jpcjguy]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   

[tjb1]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   

Of course! But looking at the post from Aurora -


6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

I would assume it would be 1.22 or less since the serial appears to be lower than the one posted.

[mutzgrila]

There are many calibration houses for thermal cameras. Which country are you in ?

I am in Brazil...
Thanks
I will take a look

[jpcjguy]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   

Of course! But looking at the post from Aurora -


6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

I would assume it would be 1.22 or less since the serial appears to be lower than the one posted.

I would tend to agree but the company I found that has it also has a 20% restocking fee - ouch if it not a 1.22 or less....

[mikeselectricstuff]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   

Of course! But looking at the post from Aurora -


6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

I would assume it would be 1.22 or less since the serial appears to be lower than the one posted.

I would tend to agree but the company I found that has it also has a 20% restocking fee - ouch if it not a 1.22 or less....

Which is why you should place the order conditional on version, so if it's wrong they are in breach of contarct

[wer4]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.

[jpcjguy]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.

Whoa -  boom - hard data - how do you know that?   

[wer4]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.

Whoa -  boom - hard data - how do you know that?   

I have a list and cameras with serials before and after that have calibration of 4/3 and are 1.22

[jpcjguy]

So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.

Whoa -  boom - hard data - how do you know that?   

I have a list and cameras with serials before and after that have calibration of 4/3 and are 1.22

Sweet!  You da man!! Thanks! 

[jpcjguy]

and I bought it - 959 shipped!   Thanks everyone for the assistance - hopefully the upgrade will go smooth!

Thanks!

[Fraser]

In this particular case my list would have helped you as the camera is quite old stock

Take a look at the list here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428

A camera with S/N 6392 17xx is identified as FW1.22 and calibrated on 3 April 14. You will see that there were many cameras produced after that serial number that had fw1.22.

See extract below:

====================
6392 023x            21 Mar             1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 17xx            03 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 21xx            08 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 29xx            11 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 4xxx               ?                   1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 5xxx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

Not in Camera @    18 May           2.1.0 RELEASED on FLIR web site - Built 16 May

6392 85xx            23 May             2.1.0 E4 V1.2L

====================

Note my warning about recalled stock however....nothing is a certainty, but the odds are definitely in your favour for an upgradable camera 

If you have not already done so, I recommend that you read my E4 Useful information thread as it answers many questions for those new to the E4.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332104/#msg332104

I hope all goes well and you enjoy your camera.

Aurora

[bookaboo]

I have a V1.22.0 unit available, can ship within the EU. It's brand new, I picked it up at a local electrical wholesaler who told me he couldn't shift it 
Available at Flir list price plus shipping at cost.

[Rozzone]

I am just taking possession of a new E4 I am assuming that it will have the new firmware.  Is anyone interested in having a look at the firmware?  I was thinking about having a look through it myself, but I am kinda new to it all.  I would appreciate some guidance.  Feel free to email if you would prefer.

[clavo]

Has anyone found a way to change the configuration files to allow for tracking of more than 1 hot or 1 cold spot?  Ideally tracking all hot spots in the entire frame...

-will