Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[Vince]

There are also a couple strange small files that I wonder what they do.. an XML file and an 'squlite' file. Can't open either it appears...
Well the XML file I just opened with a text editor.. not much in it, just a few line of "meta data".

The sqlite file is a database. It's opened with the CLI tool "sqlite3" or similar. Chances are your Linux box has it, or it's a quick "apt-get" away.

did just that... but sqlite complains that that file (attached below) is either encrypted or corrupted...

So I opened that file with a HEX editor to see what's in it (it's only 10kB)... half zeros, half text, that look related to sqlite stuff, looks "valid" to me...

OK never mind, I tried !

EDIT : forum refused to upload the " . sqlite " extension file, so had to rename it " .sqlite.jpg " instead... just remove the " .jpg " bit ...

[bd139]

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SQLite version 3.37.0 2021-12-09 01:34:53
Enter ".help" for usage hints.

sqlite> .tables
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sqlite> select * from s3item_history;
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sqlite> select * from s3api_per_key_metadata;
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Mac FTW - just ships with it 

Edit: have tabbed it out a bit...

[tautech]

Now this discussion and resulting procurement activity regarding pliers left me wondering about one thing:
why are you all only mentioning side cutters? What about oblique cutters (Schraegvornschneider), frontal cutters (Vornschneider), angled tip cutters (Spitzenschneider)?
 
You are not even nearly done!
 

I've got a pair of Lindström Schrägvornschneider -- I believe that's what they are, at least -- and I like them. Better reach at times. Vornschneider I've got some bigger ones only. For pulling nails.

Some kinky torture ritual ?
Sounds like something Saskia would be right into. 

[Vince]

S3 metadata:

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$ sqlite3 db

SQLite version 3.37.0 2021-12-09 01:34:53
Enter ".help" for usage hints.

sqlite> .tables
s3api_per_key_metadata  s3item_history          s3item_pending_changes

sqlite> select * from s3item_history;
1|HP 54645N CLIP imgs.zip|put||1414107007.23747
sqlite> select * from s3api_per_key_metadata;
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Mac FTW - just ships with it 

Edit: have tabbed it out a bit...

Oh, Sqlite THREE , I was typing " sqlite filename " at the command line. OK now I typed " sqlite3 filename "and I got that.... it didn't load the file, instead suggested I ask for help.. so did that... which then provided me with a different prompt which FFS I cannot seem to escape ! I type ".quit " " .exit",  ".leavemealone "  ".GTFO" , CTRL + C, CTRL + Q... nothing works ! 

Looks like you know how to use this thing unlike me. But well if I understand what you say... metadata.... basically this file is useless on its own, it's not gonna provide me with a "program", some sort of user interface to help me use the 109 schematic photographs.... so not very useful then ! 

[bd139]

Ctrl+D / .quit

Can you exit vi?

And yes it's useless 

[tautech]

Forking big and close lightning strike a little while ago and Larry Minor and the good wife were out in it mothering a calf onto a cow that had lost hers at birth.
They just got back here and immediately headed for their underwear stores to replace those they were wearing. 

Our big mains electric fence unit had gone into some self save mode with its indicator lights all amiss reporting some error code but a reboot had it working properly again. 
Me, well I was sheltering in the office with coffee when it hit catching up on what y'all had been up to but now it's all over need go investigate some reported fence shorts and such that weren't there yesterday. 
Expecting to find some nice carbon tracks.............possibly pics to follow.

[Vince]

Ctrl+D / .quit

Can you exit vi?

And yes it's useless 

Oh works much better now, thanks ! 

vi ?! Hell no, I am a human being not a bot can't you see ?! Did I pass the Turing test ?!  
Only a machine can use vi...

I remember 15 years ago I tried "nano" because supposedly it was easier/more user friendly. but even nano is alien to me. I loaded it, typed in it for 10 seconds and GTFO. What a traumatic experience that was...
I know, I know... I gather lots of developers like to code in vi.. maybe you do...  not for me ! 
Luckily I didn't go into IT, preferred electronics... I would have sucked big time in IT, for sure !

[BU508A]

Edit: changed avatar. Ferengi mode activated 

I do have a question:
Why did you choose Quark instead of him?


Quark thinks he is the smart one but Rom is the tech genius AND her mother has asked Rom to look after Quark.
 

[BU508A]

vi ?! Hell no, I am a human being not a bot can't you see ?! Did I pass the Turing test ?!  
Only a machine can use vi...

I'm using vi or vim on a daily basis and the last time I did a self-diagnosis, the result was "still alive". No machine.

 

[bd139]

Edit: changed avatar. Ferengi mode activated 

I do have a question:
Why did you choose Quark instead of him?


Quark thinks he is the smart one but Rom is the tech genius AND her mother has asked Rom to look after Quark.
 

Quark had about the same taste in women as me (Ro Laren ref) 

Edit: and about the same business acumen 

[bd139]

On vi, this is year 30 for me. Feeling old 

[BU508A]

Edit: changed avatar. Ferengi mode activated 

I do have a question:
Why did you choose Quark instead of him?


Quark thinks he is the smart one but Rom is the tech genius AND her mother has asked Rom to look after Quark.
 

Quark had about the same taste in women as me (Ro Laren ref) 

Edit: and about the same business acumen 

 

If you should ever become a bar owner, let me know. THIS establishment I'd want to see! 

As for women: in this episode he is saying that he is loving a Cardassian woman (Natima Lang). hmmmm ... 

[tggzzz]

vi ?! Hell no, I am a human being not a bot can't you see ?! Did I pass the Turing test ?!  
Only a machine can use vi...

I'm using vi or vim on a daily basis and the last time I did a self-diagnosis, the result was "still alive". No machine.

 

...still alive, but with a mutilated brain, as per...
“It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.”
― Edsger Dijkstra

[Cerebus]

   https://www.ebay.com/itm/392788330566      https://www.ebay.com/itm/221186199687

*sigh*   $40ish... brand-new... free shipping...      Fuck all of y'alls... 

mnem
*wibble*

Damn you!!!!       There goes $95.....         -Pat

Fuck, Pat... I was looking for someone to talk me off the ledge, not run up 10 flights of stairs and jump off right next to me...

mnem
*twitch... twitch... twitcha-twitch...*

[Fx: sings]

Meet on the ledge, we're going to meet on the ledge
When my time is up, I'm going to see all my friends
Meet on the ledge, we're going to meet on the ledge
If you really mean it, it all comes around again
Meet on the ledge, we're going to meet on the ledge
When my time is up, I'm going to see all my friends
Meet on the ledge, we're going to meet on the ledge
If you really mean it, it all comes around again

[tggzzz]

On vi, this is year 30 for me. Feeling old 

Vi makes you wish you were retired. Knowing any more than a i x dw :wq indicates autistic fixations on minutiae.

At least with emacs you aren't "moded in", and when you don't like something you can change it. Plus you can put the kitchen sink in it

[Cerebus]

spent a good week tracing down an issue with systemd and RHEL.
How I HATE this blockhead who did the systemd crap. Can we boil him a bit ? or crucify ? or express our gratitude in some other preferable painfull definitely lethal way ?

I generally find that any problem with systemd is caused by it being installed on a system. Restore a proper initd, nuke systemd, and everything's fixed.

(Actually all my Linux systems are straight Debian which means that systemd is installed, but it never gives me problems. Largely because I bypass it at almost every juncture.)

One for BD:

Every girl is bi. You just have to figure out if it's polar or sexual.

... or both.

[mansaxel]

Vornschneider I've got some bigger ones only. For pulling nails.

Some kinky torture ritual ?
Sounds like something Saskia would be right into. 

I was more alluding to Carpenters Pincers which is fairly close to Vorschneider.

[Vince]

On vi, this is year 30 for me. Feeling old 

30 years using vi ?!

[mansaxel]

I remember 15 years ago I tried "nano" because supposedly it was easier/more user friendly. but even nano is alien to me. I loaded it, typed in it for 10 seconds and GTFO. What a traumatic experience that was...

"The ed utility is the standard text editor."

25 years ago, as I was entering the dungeons of professional Unix consultancy, I was given one piece of advice, which I follow, when appropriate, to this day; "Learn what is on the machine as default, because that is all you'll be allowed to use." Hence, I learnt "vi" and "ed". It makes you faster.

Oh, and "nano" is the first piece of crap I remove from a box that's unfortunate enough to have it. It's a shit editor, a clone of an even shittier one, "pico", that more than once burnt me with its insane default of breaking lines without being asked to.

[bd139]

On vi, this is year 30 for me. Feeling old 

Vi makes you wish you were retired. Knowing any more than a i x dw :wq indicates autistic fixations on minutiae.

At least with emacs you aren't "moded in", and when you don't like something you can change it. Plus you can put the kitchen sink in it

Escape Meta Alt Control Shift



I'll stay modal thanks 

[mansaxel]

At least with emacs you aren't "moded in",

This is false.

I'm effectively bi- or tri- lingual in terms of editors; I use both ed, vi and emacs.  The dirtiest secret in all of emacs is that it is very modal but ashamed of it, and tries to hide this; failing miserably, spewing strange behaviour along the way. But it's my preferred way of editing TeX documents.

[xrunner]

bd139 sez: "Several people are wrong in multiple threads on the EEVBlog - I'll just get to correcting them all ..." 

I'll stay modal thanks 

[Cerebus]

this pottering blockhead seems to be a special kind of cunt. what a bizarre narcissistic grab-asstic piece of amphibian shit.

And those are just his better qualities.

[tggzzz]

On vi, this is year 30 for me. Feeling old 

Vi makes you wish you were retired. Knowing any more than a i x dw :wq indicates autistic fixations on minutiae.

At least with emacs you aren't "moded in", and when you don't like something you can change it. Plus you can put the kitchen sink in it

Escape Meta Alt Control Shift



I'll stay modal thanks 

I learned (Unipress) emacs 40 years ago, on Microsoft's decent operating system - Xenix. Haven't used it much recently; IDEs do the heavy lifting.

I do use vi(le) for editing the various small config files in Unix systems.

This first point of mansaxel's is very valid.

25 years ago, as I was entering the dungeons of professional Unix consultancy, I was given one piece of advice, which I follow, when appropriate, to this day; "Learn what is on the machine as default, because that is all you'll be allowed to use." Hence, I learnt "vi" and "ed". It makes you faster.

... but that conclusion is only true for those that didn't learn editing on 5-channel paper tape.

[mnementh]

Well the original post said protective earth and neutral were connected together which poes the rissk I described. If the green / yellow wire was only connected (or moved) to either side of the neutral tagstrip that is not good pactice but is no immediate risk IF it has a 4 wir connection with good protive earth. Trouble is it's inviting a mistake in the future if the riring is changed. If it a a spare link for a 3 wire connection then it should have been removed comletely and discarded when the 4 wire cord was installed.
The old design of no neutral so 110V parts in dryer connected to one phase and chassis ha it's own risk that a single fault of a disconnected earth will leave the metalwork of the dryer at 110V.

Yeah, somewhere in all the scroll I think you missed where I posted pretty much exactly the same thing you said here. I suggested he could leave the pigtail screwed to the back of the dryer cabinet to keep it out of trouble but not lost in case of future need:

Yes, absolutely; that is not to code here in the US. The entire point of the 4-wire pigtail is to keep GND and N separate. Doing this makes the GND a current-carrying conductor. BIG no-no!   

Tell me what you think, this is how they installed it:      so I removed the yellow/green from the neutral white but...      

the freaking yellow/green is looping back to the neutral white on the top

           But... but... but...             Okay... that yellow/green GND pigtail is supposed to be removed when you install the 4-wire cord on the dryer.

The GND wire on the dryer cord is supposed to go under the green screw in the body of the dryer; this is supposed to be required by code.

He probably did that to keep the yellow/green pigtail from being lost in case a future owner needs to install a 3-wire cord...  Technically I suppose it doesn't matter, really... except it fails "the rule of least surprise/alarm" test I believe I've heard you mention before; it is definitely alarming at first glance and as described in random conversation.

In your case, I'd put it under the white screw (you can loop it in a knot to keep it out of trouble or just let it lay flat down the back of the dryer) that you have the GND wire from the dryer cord under.

Also, as none of those terminals have proper strain reliefs, I'd probably at least add a couple layers of heat-shrink to slow down the inevitable process of wire insulation creep. I've seen ones like that in service for a few years with 10-15mm bare wire hanging out the end of the terminal. 

 But first, do a reality-check on those crimps to make sure they're tight-tight; I've seen some really horrible cheap ones where you could literally wiggle the wire out of the crimps on a brand-new cord.       

And now I think of it, they all looked just like that one.

mnem
eeep!