Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[mnementh]

Look closer. Dijon mustard and Coke Zero. And yes, I alotted 20 calories for that.

mnem
Because anything less would be uncivilized.

[BU508A]

Meanwhile in TSP TNP lab:

[Neomys Sapiens]

With all the talk surrounding it about fishing marlin and albacore I was trying to read Klipper as kipper (as in the smoked fish).

[mnementh]

And to put that in a wee bit more context... 

mnem
dinnae make even a whit more sense; nunnitoll...

[Cerebus]

370 Calories that's WITHOUT the huge blob of mayonnaise, nor the can of Coca Cola zero calorie industrial cleaning fluid !! 

TFTFY

[mnementh]

Yeah, that shit'll rot your socks... 

mnem
I lose more socks that way...

[mnementh]

Yes looking for non-pokemon boxes yields much cheaper/ sensible card board options... like say this beauuuutiful slide out shoe box, for 2,80 Euros :      That's more like it...

Yeah, the point was to go to a card shop, not slAmazon, where you're paying a small fortune because the boxes, even folded flat, are too big to fit in a Amazon baggie. Shoe boxes work well, but the dimensions won't fit your envelopes or crack baggies as perfectly as a trading card box does.

If you're willing to rethink your process and orient your envelopes/crack baggies horizontally, you might look into index card boxes. Usually quite cheap, even from Jeff Bezos' Online Shop of Horrors.



mnem
 

[Brumby]

7g net carb, 370 Cal.

mnem
that is all.

370 Calories that's WITHOUT the huge blob of mayonnaise, nor the can of Coca Cola !! 

Don't fool yourself 

The Coke Zero jumped out at me the second I saw the pic.

You need to pay a bit more attention before criticising the Dwagon when it comes to foodstuffs.

[Vince]

7g net carb, 370 Cal.

mnem
that is all.

370 Calories that's WITHOUT the huge blob of mayonnaise, nor the can of Coca Cola !! 

Don't fool yourself 

The Coke Zero jumped out at me the second I saw the pic.

You need to pay a bit more attention before criticising the Dwagon when it comes to foodstuffs.

Sorry, I do confess I don't know my Coke "flavours" at all, hate coke or soda, don't drink the stuff. To me there is no good or bad Coke or Pepsi...it's all junk to me !   

[Vince]

Yes looking for non-pokemon boxes yields much cheaper/ sensible card board options... like say this beauuuutiful slide out shoe box, for 2,80 Euros :      That's more like it...

Yeah, the point was to go to a card shop, not slAmazon, where you're paying a small fortune because the boxes, even folded flat, are too big to fit in a Amazon baggie. Shoe boxes work well, but the dimensions won't fit your envelopes or crack baggies as perfectly as a trading card box does.

If you're willing to rethink your process and orient your envelopes/crack baggies horizontally, you might look into index card boxes. Usually quite cheap, even from Jeff Bezos' Online Shop of Horrors.



mnem
 

I am willing to rethink anything if it can lead to what I might consider an improvement ! 

In the case at hand, pun, I don't see the point of putting the envelopes sideways, would need to redo all the labels, only to so I can spend money on a plastic box... that will then be thrown away when I get to build my own wooden custom box later on.
So.. only sensible thing to do is to keep my ugly box, because it cost me nothing, it's already there, and already does its job perfectly. When it ain't broke, don't fix it ! 
Now if I needed 2 dozen more boxes, it would be worse giving it more thinking.. but I only need that one box and that's it. So the problem has already been solved.
If I somehow need more in the coming weeks, I guess I would just replace that one, with a show box divided in two, or make a custom cardboard box. In H/W stores the 40X40x30cm cardboard box costs only one Euro. Would give me plenty enough cardboard, to make several shoe sized boxes to store thousands of little envelopes, with the bonus of being a custom job so I would be able to design the box dimension to fit perfectly into my drawers so as to not waste any space. Custom, to me, is where true luxury lies...

[mansaxel]

Sorry, I do confess I don't know my Coke "flavours" at all, hate coke or soda, don't drink the stuff. To me there is no good or bad Coke or Pepsi...it's all junk to me !   

I'm not overly fond of it, I'd much rather explore a brewery or an Appelation, but that is not always a sensible and practical idea. If so, there's water, or there might be soft drinks, but in that case, I never take those "zero" things. They're disgusting.  I've given up milk, because it's for cooking.

[tonyalbus]

 

[McBryce]

A warning to anyone out there with an Creality Ender 3 3D Printer: Don't upgrade the hardware from the old 8 Bit board to the newer 32Bit 4.2.x boards. The hardware is fine and quieter (as the loudly claim), but the firmware is just broken. Missing features, non-working commands (and not trivial stuff either, basics such as filament loading and mid-print colour change aren't implemented or not working). I'll be spending the evening downgrading my Ender 3 Pro hardware.

McBryce.

Is there no open source firmware. 32bit marlin?
There is a promising config for it I'd say: "Configurations-release-2.0.9.3.zip\Configurations-release-2.0.9.3\config\examples\Creality\Ender-3\CrealityV422"
There is also one for V427. Try that before changing hardware says me!
Edit#2: And it's not as hard as they make it look. I've done similar Marlin installs before, it's really not too bad!

I haven't compiled Marlin before, but it might be worth a try. Do you have a link to the code?

McBryce.

New rabbit hole, new frustration... Installed VSCode, Platformio, lots of libraries, downloaded Marlin 2.0.9 and.... Compiling the software even without changing anything results in a failed compile with multiple errors that all mean nothing to me Tried the bugfix version, same result with different errors.

McBryce.

Good, since from your past posts you can master Linux, why do not go straight to Klipper?
I am sure you have an old pc or a terrible raspi to attach to your printer.

Off to check Klipper, RasPi is an option, but I don't want to have to boot a PC every time I want to print something.

Recent versions of Marlin are 32-bit and no longer use ArduIDE, but PlatformIO. As I said earlier; not at all comfortable with that, so haven't fucked around with my CR-6SE yet.

I will look into Klipper; that resonance tuning would be a godsend on my floopy old Tornado.

mnem
 

The current marlin can be compiled for 8 bit boards.  And you can still compile it with the Arduino IDE if you wish, even though it's set up for PlatformIO.

Platformio is much more powerful though, once you get it set up and climb the learning curve (which I am still doing.)  I'd also recommend installing the C++ Intellisense and the GitLens extensions.  Gitlens is an extension that integrates git into vscode more.  It does things like, as you move through each line of code, tells you who last commited a change to that line of code in the repository. 

Platformio can automate a lot of stuff.  Like for my job, I am learning how to compile firmware for different printer models, and we have it set up with a sort of "jobs" tree where we can make a change to the code, then just open up the tree on the side and pick a printer model, and platformio will change a bunch of compiler defines and re-compile the code automatically.   Maybe not as useful for a hobbiest that only has one printer to compile for but it saves us lots of time at work.

My current battle at work is figuring out how to use vscode and openocd and an atmel-ice debug probe to do real debugging of the marlin firmware on an Archim2 board. I am not yet successful with that...

I have an 8-Bit (1.1.5) controller board, but I'm trying to compile Marlin for a STM32F103 board because it uses TMC motor drivers which make the printer considerably quieter.

McBryce.

[Robert763]

Meanwhile in TSP TNP lab:

Another very strange video. Why on earth would he upgrade the flash firmware by USB with an obviously displaced flat ribbon between the FTDI chip and processor? Any failure could have bricked the meter 
Then he goes on about shift registers etc for the keyboard connection when it is probably just a dedicated keypad IC like a TCA8418, L8330 or even the old 74C922.
 

[BU508A]

Happy birthday HP-35. He got 50 on Saturday.

https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/HP-35-Zum-40-Geburtstag-des-ersten-wissenschaftlichen-Taschenrechners-6350852.html

The URL is correct, even though there is a typo in it.

[m k]

Yes looking for non-pokemon boxes yields much cheaper/ sensible card board options... like say this beauuuutiful slide out shoe box, for 2,80 Euros :      That's more like it...

Yeah, the point was to go to a card shop, not slAmazon, where you're paying a small fortune because the boxes, even folded flat, are too big to fit in a Amazon baggie. Shoe boxes work well, but the dimensions won't fit your envelopes or crack baggies as perfectly as a trading card box does.

If you're willing to rethink your process and orient your envelopes/crack baggies horizontally, you might look into index card boxes. Usually quite cheap, even from Jeff Bezos' Online Shop of Horrors.



mnem
 

I am willing to rethink anything if it can lead to what I might consider an improvement ! 

In the case at hand, pun, I don't see the point of putting the envelopes sideways, would need to redo all the labels, only to so I can spend money on a plastic box... that will then be thrown away when I get to build my own wooden custom box later on.
So.. only sensible thing to do is to keep my ugly box, because it cost me nothing, it's already there, and already does its job perfectly. When it ain't broke, don't fix it ! 
Now if I needed 2 dozen more boxes, it would be worse giving it more thinking.. but I only need that one box and that's it. So the problem has already been solved.
If I somehow need more in the coming weeks, I guess I would just replace that one, with a show box divided in two, or make a custom cardboard box. In H/W stores the 40X40x30cm cardboard box costs only one Euro. Would give me plenty enough cardboard, to make several shoe sized boxes to store thousands of little envelopes, with the bonus of being a custom job so I would be able to design the box dimension to fit perfectly into my drawers so as to not waste any space. Custom, to me, is where true luxury lies...

I'm wondering what this Akro-Mils 24-pack means.

https://www.amazon.com/Akro-Mils-30110-12-Inch-2-75-Inch-Plastic/dp/B003EV7C58

[mnementh]

Sorry, I do confess I don't know my Coke "flavours" at all, hate coke or soda, don't drink the stuff. To me there is no good or bad Coke or Pepsi...it's all junk to me !   

I'm not overly fond of it, I'd much rather explore a brewery or an Appellation, but that is not always a sensible and practical idea. If so, there's water, or there might be soft drinks, but in that case, I never take those "zero" things. They're disgusting.  I've given up milk, because it's for cooking.

I like the taste of Coke Zero. It doesn't taste like Coca-cola (nothing does since they stopped making it with "just this side of Cocaine" coca leaf extract), but I like it. 

That said, I usually prefer to drink iced tea that I've brewed myself such that it is almost as strong as my coffee; I drink maybe 2 sodas a week and that's usually when I'm on the Keto, where any different flavor is a welcome change.

As much as I might enjoy going down the list, even the dry wines that I can't stand have too much sugar in them for Keto.

mnem
Not Ice-Tea; that would taste yucky.

[mnementh]

I'm wondering what this Akro-Mils 24-pack means.

https://www.amazon.com/Akro-Mils-30110-12-Inch-2-75-Inch-Plastic/dp/B003EV7C58

About this item

    STORAGE BIN DIMENSIONS- Outside (11-5/8-Inch x 2-3/4-Inch x 4-Inch), Inside (10-1/4-Inch x 1-5/8-Inch x 4-Inch) – Case of 24

Or were you wondering about the name...? I'd guess the bins are made to fit in the Akro-Mils industrial storage system of cabinets like this one:   

   https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/industrialsupplies.com-llc/B646591/14089805

mnem

[mnementh]

New rabbit hole, new frustration... Installed VSCode, PlatformIO, lots of libraries, downloaded Marlin 2.0.9 and.... Compiling the software even without changing anything results in a failed compile with multiple errors that all mean nothing to me Tried the bugfix version, same result with different errors.

McBryce.

Recent versions of Marlin are 32-bit and no longer use ArduIDE, but PlatformIO. As I said earlier; not at all comfortable with that, so haven't fucked around with my CR-6SE yet.

I will look into Klipper; that resonance tuning would be a godsend on my floopy old Tornado.

mnem
 

The current marlin can be compiled for 8 bit boards.  And you can still compile it with the Arduino IDE if you wish, even though it's set up for PlatformIO.

PlatformIO is much more powerful though, once you get it set up and climb the learning curve (which I am still doing.)  I'd also recommend installing the C++ Intellisense and the GitLens extensions.  Gitlens is an extension that integrates git into vscode more.  It does things like, as you move through each line of code, tells you who last committed a change to that line of code in the repository. 

PlatformIO can automate a lot of stuff.  Like for my job, I am learning how to compile firmware for different printer models, and we have it set up with a sort of "jobs" tree where we can make a change to the code, then just open up the tree on the side and pick a printer model, and PlatformIO will change a bunch of compiler defines and re-compile the code automatically.   Maybe not as useful for a hobbyist that only has one printer to compile for but it saves us lots of time at work.

My current battle at work is figuring out how to use vscode and openocd and an atmel-ice debug probe to do real debugging of the marlin firmware on an Archim2 board. I am not yet successful with that...

It was my understanding that only 1.9.x are intended for 8-bit, and that 2.x.x are all intended for 32-bit and PlatformIO. My dabblings with P-IO yielded similar results to McBryce above; I just didn't need the BS at the time so back-burnered the project.

I assumed that 2.x.x could be compiled using the STM32duino IDE/Tools, but that's sortof like just another new IDE and toolbox to learn, and I needed to be using my CR6-SE, not doing brain surgery on it. That will have to to wait until I have Mad Scientist Lair time and money.



mnem
*poke-ily... prod-dity... scope-ity*

[ch_scr]

New rabbit hole, new frustration... Installed VSCode, PlatformIO, lots of libraries, downloaded Marlin 2.0.9 and.... Compiling the software even without changing anything results in a failed compile with multiple errors that all mean nothing to me Tried the bugfix version, same result with different errors.

McBryce.

Recent versions of Marlin are 32-bit and no longer use ArduIDE, but PlatformIO. As I said earlier; not at all comfortable with that, so haven't fucked around with my CR-6SE yet.

I will look into Klipper; that resonance tuning would be a godsend on my floopy old Tornado.

mnem
 

The current marlin can be compiled for 8 bit boards.  And you can still compile it with the Arduino IDE if you wish, even though it's set up for PlatformIO.

PlatformIO is much more powerful though, once you get it set up and climb the learning curve (which I am still doing.)  I'd also recommend installing the C++ Intellisense and the GitLens extensions.  Gitlens is an extension that integrates git into vscode more.  It does things like, as you move through each line of code, tells you who last committed a change to that line of code in the repository. 

PlatformIO can automate a lot of stuff.  Like for my job, I am learning how to compile firmware for different printer models, and we have it set up with a sort of "jobs" tree where we can make a change to the code, then just open up the tree on the side and pick a printer model, and PlatformIO will change a bunch of compiler defines and re-compile the code automatically.   Maybe not as useful for a hobbyist that only has one printer to compile for but it saves us lots of time at work.

My current battle at work is figuring out how to use vscode and openocd and an atmel-ice debug probe to do real debugging of the marlin firmware on an Archim2 board. I am not yet successful with that...

It was my understanding that only 1.9.x are intended for 8-bit, and that 2.x.x are all intended for 32-bit and PlatformIO. My dabblings with P-IO yielded similar results to McBryce above; I just didn't need the BS at the time so back-burnered the project.

I assumed that 2.x.x could be compiled using the STM32duino IDE/Tools, but that's just another new IDE and toolboxto learn, and I needed to be using my CR6-SE, not doing brain surgery on it. That will have to to wait until I have Mad Scientist Lair time and money.



mnem
*poke-ily... prod-dity... scope-ity*

I tried compiling it and got it to work. The trick is not only to install PlatformIO in VSCode, but also AutoBuildMarlin. Then I downloaded the marlin source, unzipped it and replaced the config with the appropriate example. Opened the folder "Marlin-2.0.9.3" in vscode and clicked the "autobuildmarlin" button on the left hand side symbol bar. It showed up on the right side with the expected information from the example config. Clicked "build" on the upper build environment (e.g. STM23F103RET_creality). It took a while, but it came up with it.

[dl6lr]

I tried compiling it and got it to work. The trick is not only to install PlatformIO in VSCode, but also AutoBuildMarlin. Then I downloaded the marlin source, unzipped it and replaced the config with the appropriate example. Opened the folder "Marlin-2.0.9.3" in vscode and clicked the "autobuildmarlin" button on the left hand side symbol bar. It showed up on the right side with the expected information from the example config. Clicked "build" on the upper build environment (e.g. STM23F103RET_creality). It took a while, but it came up with it.

I compile Marlin (for 8bit) on VSCode/Platformio since it is enabled. I had several problems with Win-ArduIDE pukin' on my shoes (running out of memory or something like that) with Marlin. Using Platformio does not only work for me, the build job is so much faster.

[Kosmic]

Meanwhile in TSP TNP lab:

Another very strange video. Why on earth would he upgrade the flash firmware by USB with an obviously displaced flat ribbon between the FTDI chip and processor? Any failure could have bricked the meter 
Then he goes on about shift registers etc for the keyboard connection when it is probably just a dedicated keypad IC like a TCA8418, L8330 or even the old 74C922.
 

He flashed the meter before opening. So he didn't know about the cable then. Now I agree that flashing the device should be the last resort. Not sure why he did that first.

Don't be that hard with Shahriar, overall he's doing a good job 

[nfmax]

Meanwhile in TSP TNP lab:

Another very strange video. Why on earth would he upgrade the flash firmware by USB with an obviously displaced flat ribbon between the FTDI chip and processor? Any failure could have bricked the meter 
Then he goes on about shift registers etc for the keyboard connection when it is probably just a dedicated keypad IC like a TCA8418, L8330 or even the old 74C922.
 

He flashed the meter before opening. So he didn't know about the cable then.

Now I agree that flashing the device should be the last resort. Not sure why he did that first.

TNP - "Sweepings from the Noise Floor" 

[mnementh]

   
https://hartford.craigslist.org/wan/d/new-britain-fire-breathing-dragon-or/7435225636.html



   BWAHAHAHAHA!

mnem
Life in the new gig economy...

[Andrew_Debbie]

PP Auction catalog is out. 

TDLR;  I doubt I will be bidding.

Large amounts of junk unless you collect PAL vector scopes.

A few interesting lots of interest (to me)

7  - Wavetek 164.  Looks like the same one as last time?
25 Fluke 5450A
53 Racal 9084
66 Tek 106 sq. wave generator
67 HP 651B  incorrectly labeled Oscilloscope.
98 Dana  3300DMM    (made in Irvine California before the merger with Racal)
105, 106  HP 333A, 334A

198-200  Solartron 7060s
489 HP 204D
505 Racal 9835   - Not shown with power on.   Probably dead, perhaps missing parts.

PP are  too darn far.  Inflation, pay cuts, and the upcoming tax increase have greatly reduced my budget for non-essentials.   (of course there will be someone who would think an HP 334A is essential)

If someone is going anyway and would be willing to post something to me at cost . ..  < sigh > Even then I dunno.