This is not "an extraordinary claim, contrary to what the rest of the world believes"; it is, as I said, common knowledge. Well, okay; as we have lots of internet evidence to the contrary, I suppose it is what used to be common knowledge. 
It is very uncommon to me, and indeed contrary to my sources. Looking at the affair from the country who puts strange things on flat dough and bakes it, it is flippin' obvious that you're barking up the wrong tree, even if there's a grain of something-that-coulda-been in it; the "Pizza effect" in sociology is describing the fact that a practice can be reintroduced in the very country it originated from by emigrates who return.
In the pizza case, the example creating the name is Italians who had emigrated to the US returning to Italy as visitors after World War 1 and reintroducing the dish in other parts of Italy than Napoli. This does not mean that the practice of baking flat bread with cheese and other condiments was invented in the US, it only degenerated there. There are European proto-examples of flat-bread-with-condiments that are several hundred years older than the USA.
The claim you made goes a bit further than that, if not in carefully edited hard facts definitely in brag; which is what made Cerebus and me react.
I think Unesco did nail the coffin shut, though, as they made Pizza making Napoli style an immaterial heritage.
I know NY is proud of its imported and altered food, and I consider it one of the very few places I'd tolerate if I had to live in the US. But it is neither infallible nor the source of Pizza.
Wow... honestly, I had no idea. When I was kid, even a young adult, it was common knowledge (and I do usually frequent the Italian neighborhoods in most cities I've lived in out of love for all forms of pasta) that pizza with tomato sauce and cheese as we now know it was invented by immigrants. I never questioned it since.
This is not "an extraordinary claim, contrary to what the rest of the world believes"; it is, as I said, common knowledge. Well, okay; as we have lots of internet evidence to the contrary, I suppose it is what used to be common knowledge.
In my entire experience so far, only you have claimed a New York origin (while 'schooling' an Italian on the proper origin no less) and cite no more evidence than "Everybody knows" and anyone who disagrees is too lazy/ignorant to do their own research.
Ah, forget I brought it up. I ought to know by now that disagreeing with "the Dragon" says, no matter how misguided, is a fruitless exercise. You're right, of course pizza comes from New York.
C, you're right.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Thanks for bothering to do your own research, and bringing it here. I've been a bit busy and just couldn't be arsed with what I really thought was just another pointless argument.
I'll admit I was a bit cheesed off by the
"Citation Required" demand; as I stated, I've been mugged entirely too many times by lazy fuckwits just looking for something to troll me with & I'm not going to defend that any further. If you want a citation from me, you can ask civilly or kiss my scaly dwagon arse.
I really had no intention of stirring the shit this time... particularly I was not trying to poke the earth-pig. As you've said before, it's not like you haven't been known to take things of context and blow them out of proportion; which I really thought this was.
Given that, I'm going to let the deliberately incendiary bloviation above pass and chalk it up to
"Oh, that's just his way; 'es mostly 'armless."Cheers to all whose evening was inflicted with this inadvertent "stirring of the shit"; I definitely stepped in my own mess this time.
mnem
*initiating STFU maneuver*
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