Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[bd139]

The difference is that the French car is plotting your downfall from the first day it is assembled in the factory. As is the assembly line worker with the Gitaines dangling from the corner of his mouth while he gives a dismissive Gallic shrug - "Oh mon ami, the seal he is not essential, he only keeps the rain out. ". 

At least it's not an Italian car which is doomed far before they even start making the parts for it 

Design meeting

[Cerebus]

Stupid RS, their manual for the Metrix is in the original French!   

Vince shrugs, lights Gauloise. "Pas de problème!" 

[Cerebus]

The difference is that the French car is plotting your downfall from the first day it is assembled in the factory. As is the assembly line worker with the Gitaines dangling from the corner of his mouth while he gives a dismissive Gallic shrug - "Oh mon ami, the seal he is not essential, he only keeps the rain out. ". 

At least it's not an Italian car which is doomed far before they even start making the parts for it 

You have to remember that the Romans invented Stoicism. 

[Vince]

Stupid RS, their manual for the Metrix is in the original French!   

Vince shrugs, lights Gauloise. "Pas de problème!" 

I don't smoke ! 

I can read French no problem.  The problem is that very few people speak French any more these days in France. There is no sense of spelling or grammar or verb tenses or punctuation or what words actually mean or anything any more, and they sprinkle their sentences with random misused English words here and there to look smart, or so they all think. It's a complete shit show. It's getting harder and harder to understand what people write or say, and it's getting harder and harder for people to understand what I write or say, because they have 10 words of vocabulary and just can't read. It's hard to express nuance with 10 words...

They speak neither decent French nor English, just a really bad mix of the two ! 

Rant over, sorry....

[bd139]

Same here

[med6753]

Same here

Did he just tell her to go fuck herself? 

[med6753]

Stupid RS, their manual for the Metrix is in the original French!   

Vince shrugs, lights Gauloise. "Pas de problème!" 

I don't smoke ! 

I can read French no problem.  The problem is that very few people speak French any more these days in France. There is no sense of spelling or grammar or verb tenses or punctuation or what words actually mean or anything any more, and they sprinkle their sentences with random misused English words here and there to look smart, or so they all think. It's a complete shit show. It's getting harder and harder to understand what people write or say, and it's getting harder and harder for people to understand what I write or say, because they have 10 words of vocabulary and just can't read. It's hard to express nuance with 10 words...

They speak neither decent French nor English, just a really bad mix of the two ! 

Rant over, sorry....

Wait a minute.  I thought there was this French government committee with the sole purpose of keeping the French language "pure" and free of those dreaded English words. You mean to tell me that the great unwashed masses told them to stick it where the sun don't shine?     

[Vince]

Same here

 

I could make sense only of the very last split second of what he said, I think ! Sounded like he said something like "do you understand ? ".

Other than that !   

[Specmaster]

Stupid RS, their manual for the Metrix is in the original French!   

Vince shrugs, lights Gauloise. "Pas de problème!" 

I don't smoke ! 

I can read French no problem.  The problem is that very few people speak French any more these days in France. There is no sense of spelling or grammar or verb tenses or punctuation or what words actually mean or anything any more, and they sprinkle their sentences with random misused English words here and there to look smart, or so they all think. It's a complete shit show. It's getting harder and harder to understand what people write or say, and it's getting harder and harder for people to understand what I write or say, because they have 10 words of vocabulary and just can't read. It's hard to express nuance with 10 words...

They speak neither decent French nor English, just a really bad mix of the two ! 

Rant over, sorry....

Never mind, we can converse very well with you over on this side of the stream 

[Cerebus]

Same here

Did he just tell her to go fuck herself? 

No, he's not from Govan.

(I should point out that Rab's Govan accent has been toned down to make it vaguely intelligible. A true Govan man wouldn't actually move his lips while talking and every syllable would come from the back of the throat.)

[Cubdriver]

Gonna be interesting weather wise in these parts today and tomorrow. Current track will put me on the western edge of it. Cubdriver (Pat) will take a near direct hit. 

https://www.weather.gov/media/aly/AutoBriefing/ALYBriefing.pdf

Yeah, definitely not liking that predicted storm track - has me pretty much boresited.  Forecast I just looked at calls for sustained 30-40 mph winds with gusts north of 60 (100 kph-ish). This is not good considering that the trees are fully leafed out again, as they were last summer when the last big storm ripped through.   

-Pat

[med6753]

Gee...when I was in Scotland back in 2001 I had no trouble understanding any of the locals. Even took the rental car into the country side outside of Edinburgh and no issues. 

[Vince]

Wait a minute.  I thought there was this French government committee with the sole purpose of keeping the French language "pure" and free of those dreaded English words.

There is even a LAW that "forbids" the use of Engish words in ads on TV or radio !  But the marketing people go around this by translating the English words or expressions within the ad itself, so it looks silly !  On TV or printed ads you have an asterisk that links to the translation in French, in tiny characters hidden at the very bottom of the screen or page, so it's kinda invisible, but on RADIO it sounds so silly, because you get the English worded slogan, then immediately after saying it in English, you hear the guy saying " XYZ  english " means "XYZ in French", so stupid !!! Why not say it in French in the first place you moron !!! 

You mean to tell me that the great unwashed masses told them to stick it where the sun don't shine? 

The "French Academy" it's called. Problem is that nobody listen to them, or really knows about them...
Worse : the GOVERNMENT a few years ago decided to SIMPLIFY the French language, because since French people can't seem to speak French any more, they figured it must be because the language is too complicated, rather than maybe it's because the education system is going south !
So they simplified the spelling of many words... flattening things out, removing all the little things that made the language rich and interesting, just because parents and schools can't fucking teach French to their kids ?! 
Luckily this reform  was so extreme, so ridiculous that people still use mostly the old / normal spelling, thank Goodness ! 
By law both spellings of a word are now legal. So if I wanted I could write using a silly spelling and get away with it.. but I would still look weird and ridiculous none the less !
So since the old / normal spelling is still authorized.. we keep using it. The new / simplified spelling will I hope get forgotten and just die...

[med6753]

Gonna be interesting weather wise in these parts today and tomorrow. Current track will put me on the western edge of it. Cubdriver (Pat) will take a near direct hit. 

https://www.weather.gov/media/aly/AutoBriefing/ALYBriefing.pdf

Yeah, definitely not liking that predicted storm track - has me pretty much boresited.  Forecast I just looked at calls for sustained 30-40 mph winds with gusts north of 60 (100 kph-ish). This is not good considering that the trees are fully leafed out again, as they were last summer when the last big storm ripped through.   

-Pat

Yea, not looking too good for you. Batten down the hatches and keep flashlight handy. Be safe buddy. 

[Vtile]

Ethernet is from devil! 😁

I beg to differ. Serial ports are important; we agree there. But only as debug and out-of-band method, to get things running on the network. As soon as you've gotten network connectivity, the serial port is just an "Oh, shit" device.

Compared to say GPIB, TCP/IP over Ethernet on an instrument is IMNSHO much better. The only thing you'd lose is some timing. Ethernet cables are cheap as chips, can be self made (but it is not economical) and reach much longer than GPIB, at speeds that simply are insane in comparison. And then we haven't introduced a switch, yet. Which is also very inexpensive.

I've got one GPIB instrument so far. I'd be happy to get more, and as soon as I do, I'll probably try getting a cable for it and bodge an adapter/bridging solution so I can talk to them from my networked computers..

Didn't you read the grinning hieroglypth at the end  It's like two sided coin, when ethernet work (modern implementations) they work nicely, when you have poor connector (RJ-45 rubbish) somewhere, you will loose your mental health quickly.

Us nordic people and irony. Yeah, the 8p8c connector is an interesting piece of technology.

When it works it is extremely reliable, but as soon as one mistreats it, it will extract a gruesome revenge. Almost like a french car.

I recently happened to buy a couple 1000 of it, for next to nothing, including a crimper and, more importantly, almost as many backshells with tab protectors.

The difference is that the French car is plotting your downfall from the first day it is assembled in the factory. As is the assembly line worker with the Gitaines dangling from the corner of his mouth while he gives a dismissive Gallic shrug - "Oh mon ami, the seal he is not essential, he only keeps the rain out. ". 

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

[med6753]

Wait a minute.  I thought there was this French government committee with the sole purpose of keeping the French language "pure" and free of those dreaded English words.

There is even a LAW that "forbids" the use Engish words in ads on TV or radio !  But they marketing people go around this by translating the English words or expressions within the ad itseld, so it looks silly !  On TV or printed  ads you have an asterisk that links to the translation in French, in tiny characters hidden at the very bottom of the screen or page, so it's kinda invisible, but on RADIO it sounds so silly, because you get the English worded slogan, then immediately after saying it in English, you hear the guy saying " XYZ  english " means "XYZ in French", so stupid !!! Why not say it in French in the first place you moron !!! 

You mean to tell me that the great unwashed masses told them to stick it where the sun don't shine? 

The "French Academy" it's called. Problem is that nobody listen to them, or really knows about them...
Worse : the GOVERNMENT a few years ago decided to SIMPLIFY the French language, because since French people can't seem to speak French any more, they figured it must be because the language is too complicated, rather than maybe it's because the education system is going south !
So they simplified the spelling of many words... flattening things out, removing all the little things that made the language rich and interesting, just because parents and schools can't fucking teach French to their kids ?! 
Luckily this reform  was so extreme, so ridiculous that people still use mostly the old / normal spelling, thank Goodness ! 
By law both spellings of a word are now legal. So if I wanted I could write using a silly spelling and get away with it.. but I would still look weird and ridiculous none the less !
So since the old / normal spelling is still authorized.. we keep using it. The new / simplified spelling will I hope get forgotten and just die...

You mean to tell me that hatred of all things British and American (especially American) fostered by that arrogant prick Charles de Gaulle has finally fallen by the wayside? 

[bd139]

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

Just remember the leaky seals at the top of our cars are perfectly compensated by the rusty holes at the bottom to let the water out again.

[Vtile]

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

Just remember the leaky seals at the top of our cars are perfectly compensated by the rusty holes at the bottom to let the water out again.

With electric cars only rusty holes will be left. 

[mnementh]

Crazy pricing of the week goes to

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265277070312

I’d expect the seller to chuck their partner in for a couple of days at that price 

Fuckin' thing has shrooms growin' on it!!!

mnem
Well maybe... if they're that kind of shrooms...

[bd139]

If they are they're probably worth more than the scope is anyway 

[med6753]

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

Just remember the leaky seals at the top of our cars are perfectly compensated by the rusty holes at the bottom to let the water out again.

Not if it's German. 

[tggzzz]

Ethernet is from devil! 😁

I beg to differ. Serial ports are important; we agree there. But only as debug and out-of-band method, to get things running on the network. As soon as you've gotten network connectivity, the serial port is just an "Oh, shit" device.

Compared to say GPIB, TCP/IP over Ethernet on an instrument is IMNSHO much better. The only thing you'd lose is some timing. Ethernet cables are cheap as chips, can be self made (but it is not economical) and reach much longer than GPIB, at speeds that simply are insane in comparison. And then we haven't introduced a switch, yet. Which is also very inexpensive.

I've got one GPIB instrument so far. I'd be happy to get more, and as soon as I do, I'll probably try getting a cable for it and bodge an adapter/bridging solution so I can talk to them from my networked computers..

Didn't you read the grinning hieroglypth at the end  It's like two sided coin, when ethernet work (modern implementations) they work nicely, when you have poor connector (RJ-45 rubbish) somewhere, you will loose your mental health quickly.

Us nordic people and irony. Yeah, the 8p8c connector is an interesting piece of technology.

When it works it is extremely reliable, but as soon as one mistreats it, it will extract a gruesome revenge. Almost like a french car.

I recently happened to buy a couple 1000 of it, for next to nothing, including a crimper and, more importantly, almost as many backshells with tab protectors.

The difference is that the French car is plotting your downfall from the first day it is assembled in the factory. As is the assembly line worker with the Gitaines dangling from the corner of his mouth while he gives a dismissive Gallic shrug - "Oh mon ami, the seal he is not essential, he only keeps the rain out. ". 

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

I used to have a series 2 Land Rover. The car would continue to the destination with an amazing number of bits missing.

For a long time, it didn't have a fuel gauge. It definitely and legally included having only one wondscreen wiper and no seat belts. I had good reason to believe that would have included a front wheel and an engine mount

[Vince]

You mean to tell me that hatred of all things British and American (especially American) fostered by that arrogant prick Charles de Gaulle has finally fallen by the wayside?

No I wouldn't say that.

I don't feel there has ever been anti British or anti-American feelings over here, and would at the least not say any of it would originate from Charles de Gaulle !  I mean, this is old stuff, nobody remembers him or that era, it's totally meaningless and irrelevant to 90% of the population. Over here only politicians like to cite Charles de Gaulle when they run short of ideas of their own.

Be it Americans or British, there has always been a love-hate relation ship I would say, it's 50/50 ! Good and bad. Some people focusing on the good and others focusing on the bad...


The increased use of English words in people's language today.. I think one should not read too much into it. It's mostly a "fashion" , mostly induced by lazy marketing people, and a way to cover their deficiencies in mastering their mother tong, French !

[bd139]

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

Just remember the leaky seals at the top of our cars are perfectly compensated by the rusty holes at the bottom to let the water out again.

Not if it's German. 

Actually this reminds me of this:

https://youtu.be/bf7q8lWEd-o?t=525

[tggzzz]

As a British I wouldn't include automobile and seal in one paragraph. 😄

Just remember the leaky seals at the top of our cars are perfectly compensated by the rusty holes at the bottom to let the water out again.

With my Landie the holes weren't rusty. There's an advantage to letting the water in: if you don't then when crossing a rover the car will float and easily be pushed sideways off the track.