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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92525 on: June 20, 2021, 07:36:36 pm »
No decent fans for sale in the shops then?
I'd rather have one for free, from scrap. This one was good enough without the metal foil extension in the past. I'm rather surprised how well the upgrade works. Fan was once part of a microwave...
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92526 on: June 20, 2021, 07:43:57 pm »
Guess Tautech can continue polishing that bullet. Diverticulitis.
If this worsens I'll need to go to the emergency room.
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I fully agree. Not the way to diminish.

Exact same here. Time for a high-fiber diet. With a side of fiber. :o

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« Reply #92527 on: June 20, 2021, 08:49:26 pm »
Ok, ER. Diagnosis confirmed. Waiting for CT to grade it and decide on treatment. Doc wants to cut out 1m of intestines, I am hesitant.
 

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« Reply #92528 on: June 20, 2021, 08:52:27 pm »
I fully agree. Not the way to diminish.
Exact same here. Time for a high-fiber diet. With a side of fiber. :o

Dosenbrot or Schwarzbrot will do that. Saskia is lucky to live in a civilised country with coarse bread products. Finland would be even better; they're the ruling world champions in sourdough rye bread. USA and UK don't even qualify; they're the equivalent of reserves to the junior soccer team at a baseball college...

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92529 on: June 20, 2021, 08:53:10 pm »
 :o  :(

Get well soon, Saskia. Keep my fingers crossed.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92530 on: June 20, 2021, 08:53:23 pm »
Ok, ER. Diagnosis confirmed. Waiting for CT to grade it and decide on treatment. Doc wants to cut out 1m of intestines, I am hesitant.

If you offer to do the excision with 50 grams of... they might reconsider?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92531 on: June 20, 2021, 08:57:06 pm »
I might consider the old Seppuku method, but it is so final.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92532 on: June 20, 2021, 08:58:59 pm »
My mother used to say "It's not that getting older is such a blast; it's that the alternative is just absurd." She was long passed before I truly understood all of her meaning... *sigh*

Best wishes, Saskia.  :-+

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« Reply #92533 on: June 20, 2021, 09:00:36 pm »
This is absolutely bizarre. I connected up the supply and it would climb to about 3VDC, refuse to go any higher, and the current would jump up to over 1.5A and the supply would go into constant current mode. My thought was the supply was defective. So I connected the little hp 6215A (30V max, 500ma). Same thing. The supply would climb to about 2VDC then the current would peg at 500ma. Checked my connections. Are correct. Did a resistance test with the 87. 1932 ohms!  :wtf: That's no short. But apparently whatever it is DOES short out at a minimum amount of voltage applied. Went over the scope checking for hot spots or smoke. Found none.

I kept trying to raise the voltage and suddenly was able to get up to about 30VDC before it would short out again. Then while raising the voltage heard a little snap and now I can achieve 100V. Current 350ma which seems a little high. I'm going to let it sit as shown for maybe an hour or so and see what happens. Tomorrow I'll probably attempt to power up the entire supply with this external 100V.

This is fucking weird.  :palm:

 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92534 on: June 20, 2021, 09:05:34 pm »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92535 on: June 20, 2021, 09:13:10 pm »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Yea, agree with all that. But that I can deal with. I just want to get this POS a stable power up and show at least SOME progress.  :palm:

Edit....still stable at 100V, 350ma.  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92536 on: June 20, 2021, 10:26:54 pm »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Yea, agree with all that. But that I can deal with. I just want to get this POS a stable power up and show at least SOME progress.  :palm:

Edit....still stable at 100V, 350ma.  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92537 on: June 20, 2021, 10:52:35 pm »
Ha - everything has a USB power port now even that 100V supply.  :clap:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92538 on: June 21, 2021, 12:23:50 am »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Yea, agree with all that. But that I can deal with. I just want to get this POS a stable power up and show at least SOME progress.  :palm:

Edit....still stable at 100V, 350ma.  :-+

Just be glad it's too old to have RIFAs.  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92539 on: June 21, 2021, 12:32:55 am »
Ha - everything has a USB power port now even that 100V supply.  :clap:

Yeah, I noticed that. Imagining the fireworks if there were some catastrophic internal short... and you know it's just the sort of thing gonna happen when the GF has her brand-new iPwn plugged into it to charge... 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92540 on: June 21, 2021, 06:57:22 am »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Yea, agree with all that. But that I can deal with. I just want to get this POS a stable power up and show at least SOME progress.  :palm:

Edit....still stable at 100V, 350ma.  :-+

Is it possibly some loose structure in the CRT itself maybe causing a short of sorts???
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92541 on: June 21, 2021, 07:36:16 am »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Yea, agree with all that. But that I can deal with. I just want to get this POS a stable power up and show at least SOME progress.  :palm:

Edit....still stable at 100V, 350ma.  :-+

Is it possibly some loose structure in the CRT itself maybe causing a short of sorts???

Do you have a screw loose?

 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92542 on: June 21, 2021, 08:09:35 am »
This is absolutely bizarre. I connected up the supply and it would climb to about 3VDC, refuse to go any higher, and the current would jump up to over 1.5A and the supply would go into constant current mode. My thought was the supply was defective. So I connected the little hp 6215A (30V max, 500ma). Same thing. The supply would climb to about 2VDC then the current would peg at 500ma. Checked my connections. Are correct. Did a resistance test with the 87. 1932 ohms!  :wtf: That's no short. But apparently whatever it is DOES short out at a minimum amount of voltage applied. Went over the scope checking for hot spots or smoke. Found none.

I kept trying to raise the voltage and suddenly was able to get up to about 30VDC before it would short out again. Then while raising the voltage heard a little snap and now I can achieve 100V. Current 350ma which seems a little high. I'm going to let it sit as shown for maybe an hour or so and see what happens. Tomorrow I'll probably attempt to power up the entire supply with this external 100V.

This is fucking weird.  :palm:



I refer you to my earlier comment.
I now suggest that the transistor that was being turned on is now open circuit but the root cause component failure that turned it on hard is still passing excessive current.
With hindsight a lower voltage an "look" with  thermal imager, IR thrmometer or even just a finger on transistors would have been preferred.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92543 on: June 21, 2021, 08:13:21 am »
Yeah... almost positive the short is on the other side of one or more semis which is/are not turning on until the power rises enough. That snap was probably one such device or a resistor dying in that high-current path. Or, possibly a diode or tant cracking open like a walnut. ;)

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Yea, agree with all that. But that I can deal with. I just want to get this POS a stable power up and show at least SOME progress.  :palm:

Edit....still stable at 100V, 350ma.  :-+

Is it possibly some loose structure in the CRT itself maybe causing a short of sorts???

Do you have a screw loose?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92544 on: June 21, 2021, 08:14:48 am »
Ok, ER. Diagnosis confirmed. Waiting for CT to grade it and decide on treatment. Doc wants to cut out 1m of intestines, I am hesitant.

Ouch. I'd hesitate too, and ask another doctor.
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« Reply #92545 on: June 21, 2021, 08:53:14 am »
Do you have a screw loose?

All regulars here do, by definition. I'm sure you realise that, but non-native English speakers might not.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92546 on: June 21, 2021, 08:57:10 am »
Ok, ER. Diagnosis confirmed. Waiting for CT to grade it and decide on treatment. Doc wants to cut out 1m of intestines, I am hesitant.

Ouch. I'd hesitate too, and ask another doctor.
Ouch, that seems to me to be a drastic measure that may be a step too far, once removed, it can't be replaced. I agree, I'd get a second opinion on that before accepting the diagonoses.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92547 on: June 21, 2021, 09:09:13 am »
This is absolutely bizarre. I connected up the supply and it would climb to about 3VDC, refuse to go any higher, and the current would jump up to over 1.5A and the supply would go into constant current mode. My thought was the supply was defective. So I connected the little hp 6215A (30V max, 500ma). Same thing. The supply would climb to about 2VDC then the current would peg at 500ma. Checked my connections. Are correct. Did a resistance test with the 87. 1932 ohms!  :wtf: That's no short. But apparently whatever it is DOES short out at a minimum amount of voltage applied. Went over the scope checking for hot spots or smoke. Found none.

I kept trying to raise the voltage and suddenly was able to get up to about 30VDC before it would short out again. Then while raising the voltage heard a little snap and now I can achieve 100V. Current 350ma which seems a little high. I'm going to let it sit as shown for maybe an hour or so and see what happens. Tomorrow I'll probably attempt to power up the entire supply with this external 100V.

This is fucking weird.  :palm:



I refer you to my earlier comment.
I now suggest that the transistor that was being turned is now open circuit  but the root cause component failure is tht turned it on hard is still passing excessive current.
With hindsight a lower voltage an "look" with  thermal imager, IR thrmometer or even just a finger on transistors would have been preferred.

I agree with Robert here, even a cheap $10 to $20 Infra Red Thermometer will when the red laser dot is directed onto the parts will be sufficient to detect something that is warming up to a temperature that is above the background temp. Keep the voltage low and the damage will not get out of hand. If the fault does not show itself when the power supply is connected, I'd personally be very tempted to wiggle about the wiring looms in case there is a fault in those, maybe a sharp piece of metal digging into them at some obscure location that might be aggravated by gravity or temperature?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #92548 on: June 21, 2021, 10:16:15 am »
Actually cutting out the sigma colon is the only way to get rid of this condition. However l just barely survived the last big surgery I had. I do not want to chance it, the bet is too high.
 

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« Reply #92549 on: June 21, 2021, 10:42:50 am »
Actually cutting out the sigma colon is the only way to get rid of this condition. However l just barely survived the last big surgery I had. I do not want to chance it, the bet is too high.

My mother had diverticulitis for decades, without surgery and without major lifestyle changes. Obviously I can't compare that with your condition, and am not sure what actions she took, but it may indicate there can be a cause for optimism.

My very limited understanding is that it is caused by food particles getting caught in depressions in the gut. If so, then fibrogel (i.e. fibre) might be a way to scour the particles out of the depressions.

That information is worth what you paid for it, of course. I'd certainly want an opinion from someone specialising in the condition, not an ER generalist.
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