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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78325 on: December 29, 2020, 09:36:23 pm »
Geez, I am beat. Spent the past 3.5 hours in a food warehouse helping Jo stock up on provisions. My refrigerator is now packed plus other goods not requiring refrigeration packed into the back of the CR-V. Over $300 USD spent, even with $30 USD in coupons.  :scared:

So if NYC goes into shutdown again she's covered.  :-+

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« Reply #78326 on: December 29, 2020, 09:59:05 pm »
Yeah the typo says it all in the feedback  :palm:

Heh, heh. Now I want to buy something off you just so I can leave feedback that says "Very hellfull".  :)

So wait... you're suggesting that whatever you buy on fleaBay... if it comes from bd, it is full of hell...? Or is this invective directed at the vendor...?  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78327 on: December 29, 2020, 10:00:59 pm »
@bd139 is GTA online cross platform? I have the feeling it isn't, and iirc you're on PC...

Just started it on PS4 and it's every bit as crap as I remember from the PS3 days.

Still, if anyone needs a top driver (merely competent gunman) let me know. I'm pretty decent even when plastered...


@Robert763 I have my eye on a more modern unit on Deutsche fleabay but I expect it'll exceed my price range. Oh well...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78328 on: December 29, 2020, 10:16:20 pm »
@bd139 is GTA online cross platform? I have the feeling it isn't, and iirc you're on PC...

Just started it on PS4 and it's every bit as crap as I remember from the PS3 days.

Still, if anyone needs a top driver (merely competent gunman) let me know. I'm pretty decent even when plastered...

Not sure to be honest. GTA Online is a shit show though. Just Russian 12 year olds head shotting you. I played story mode end to end and that was it. My daughter likes to play Apex Legends now so isn’t interested either. I don’t get that game. You spend 20 minutes preparing and creeping around to be head shot by a Russian 12 year old. At least in GTA V they shoot you where you spawn saving a whole lot of faffing around and time you could have spent doing something more productive.  I miss stuff like quake 3 and Unreal Tournament. No time to breath just non stop high speed adrenaline filled murdering with an aftertaste of vodka and dominos.

Anyway the point is moot at least for me as I started decommissioning my PC today. No need for one now as I had a rather hefty Dell laptop dumped on me which does the work functions. So I’m going to be an uncultured swine and RDP into the thing from my Mac. I await the flames  :-DD

BTW never buy a Dell precision 5550. Horrid horrid thing. They tried to copy Apple at every stage and fucked it up massively. I’d be really pissed off if I’d paid for it.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78329 on: December 29, 2020, 10:20:07 pm »
fleaBay day:


45 quid per MHz, bargain! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-K-PRECISION-1432-1432-USED-TESTED-CLEANED/392307916820


Haha, they are always asking stupid money for their stuff, if its from Radwell, leave it well alone is my motto. I wonder if there is anybody stupid enough to pay their ridiculous valuations?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78330 on: December 29, 2020, 11:14:23 pm »
snip...
Edit: changed your picture to JPG, PNG too large those of us using pay-as-you-go phones.

Some of us are having rejected/security issues with JPegs is and I haven't looked for a reason with my 12 month old install of irfanview. Waiting for a response from Dave or Gnif.

Image Resizer PowerToy still works. ;)   https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/

I've had a few jpg images saved off the web trigger this response (no, not disguised heic, just plain jpg) lately, even tho less than 100kB. Open in Paint, save as .jpg and Voila! no problems; even tho sometimes the file is bigger than before.  :-//

mnem
 :popcorn:

I've also had occasional problems with security issues when uploading images (started a couple of months ago), usually with images that have been rotated in Irfanview*, editing from the original picture again has worked fine afterwards, even if it ends up the exact same size edit.

*Need to update my Irfanview, apparently it's the 2014 version.  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78331 on: December 29, 2020, 11:24:36 pm »
fleaBay day:
My fave serial boat anchor abuser has himself an Agilent branded 3458A with recent cal: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Keysight-Agilent-3458A-Digit-Digital-Multimeter-8-Digit-ND-O/224297338135


Makes you wonder if it had a failed cal sticker removed before listing, also has ERR shown on display, that seller knows bugger-all² about the stuff he's selling.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78332 on: December 29, 2020, 11:32:40 pm »
SNIP
BTW never buy a Dell precision 5550. Horrid horrid thing. They tried to copy Apple at every stage and fucked it up massively. I’d be really pissed off if I’d paid for it.
Personally I always thought that Dell was a shit show anyway, I don't think that from all the computers I've had the pleasure of working (as in repairing), none have been such bad performers as Dell's. I have been given a Dell Dimension 5520 tower that currently sits under my desk/bench that I was supposed to be returning into a games machine to play my many games that need windoze XP or 7 to run on. The thing it is still sitting there 2 years later, I can't be arsed to do it because it will be a disappointment I'm sure.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78333 on: December 29, 2020, 11:39:08 pm »
Yes there is a Plessey SP630F in there, I suspect a tunnel diode is on the same board too (D1), can't confirm this as I don't have a manual and don't want unreadible crap from Mauritron, the other source emanualsbank is a scam.


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Ugh tunnel diodes. Either that or Schottky diode. There was a similar one in the front end of some racal counters which was used for the AGC measurement of the preamp (which handily was stuffed out of the back panel and great for peaking RF circuits)

Should be easy enough to reverse engineer that however.

No need to reverse engineer the pre-scaler board (19-0604) as it's also used in the Racal 9059, manual scanned by a member of the vintage radio forum here; http://ftb.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index.php?id=download&file=Racal/Racal_Dana_9057_9059_Frequency_Period_Meter_Service_Manual_3.1.74-125.pdf

The pre-scaler board can be found on pages 51 to 53 of the 9057/9 manual and yes that diode D1 is a tunnel diode (very similar looking to the failed originals in the troublesome HP 5248M), no spec given in the parts list though.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78334 on: December 30, 2020, 01:04:56 am »
Thanks for the comments re the knobs on the 3403C, it is amazing what can stare you in the face and you don't see!
I was bewitched by the fact that it had both the feet and the bale, the body work was excellent and in specication. The lower knob is modern but the other two have an 1970s look / feel but quite different from the original!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78335 on: December 30, 2020, 01:11:47 am »
snip...
Edit: changed your picture to JPG, PNG too large those of us using pay-as-you-go phones.

Some of us are having rejected/security issues with JPegs is and I haven't looked for a reason with my 12 month old install of irfanview. Waiting for a response from Dave or Gnif.

Image Resizer PowerToy still works. ;)   https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/

I've had a few jpg images saved off the web trigger this response (no, not disguised heic, just plain jpg) lately, even tho less than 100kB. Open in Paint, save as .jpg and Voila! no problems; even tho sometimes the file is bigger than before.  :-//

mnem
 :popcorn:

I've also had occasional problems with security issues when uploading images (started a couple of months ago), usually with images that have been rotated in Irfanview*, editing from the original picture again has worked fine afterwards, even if it ends up the exact same size edit.

*Need to update my Irfanview, apparently it's the 2014 version.  :-DD

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Just had a look at the changelog for the newer versions then my 4.53 to the current 4.56 and nothing obvious to do with Jpeg security measures so I am calling the issue an SMF or Plugin one.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78336 on: December 30, 2020, 01:38:14 am »
What's the max CAT class for an AWG24 ethernet cable? I am wondering if I can find a CAT7 with AWG24...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78337 on: December 30, 2020, 01:41:44 am »
snip...
Edit: changed your picture to JPG, PNG too large those of us using pay-as-you-go phones.

Some of us are having rejected/security issues with JPegs is and I haven't looked for a reason with my 12 month old install of irfanview. Waiting for a response from Dave or Gnif.

Image Resizer PowerToy still works. ;)   https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/

I've had a few jpg images saved off the web trigger this response (no, not disguised heic, just plain jpg) lately, even tho less than 100kB. Open in Paint, save as .jpg and Voila! no problems; even tho sometimes the file is bigger than before.  :-//

mnem
 :popcorn:

I've also had occasional problems with security issues when uploading images (started a couple of months ago), usually with images that have been rotated in Irfanview*, editing from the original picture again has worked fine afterwards, even if it ends up the exact same size edit.

*Need to update my Irfanview, apparently it's the 2014 version.  :-DD

David

Just had a look at the changelog for the newer versions then my 4.53 to the current 4.56 and nothing obvious to do with Jpeg security measures so I am calling the issue an SMF or Plugin one.
It is and take your pick. I pick Plugin.
However not every uploaded JPG gives issues and for any that do just open in Paint and resave seems to work just fine.
Posting is so much fun these days  ::) .....need to use the 2nd file attachment box to prevent issues and now this JPG BS too.  :bullshit:  :horse:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78338 on: December 30, 2020, 01:59:10 am »
Yeah the typo says it all in the feedback  :palm:

Heh, heh. Now I want to buy something off you just so I can leave feedback that says "Very hellfull".  :)

So wait... you're suggesting that whatever you buy on fleaBay... if it comes from bd, it is full of hell...? Or is this invective directed at the vendor...?  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78339 on: December 30, 2020, 02:36:53 am »
Oh fun. eBay fucktard time. Sold a decent quality Berghaus fleece on 6th November. Silence, no feedback, nothing. Got a return case opened this morning saying it was too small  :palm: :palm:. Original item listed as no returns. Seriously pisses me off these chancers do.

Bloody humans!  >:(

Not quite as bad as the idiot who couldn’t work out how to use a frequency counter though.

Edit: also the fat bastard that ate all the apples off my tree is now taunting me  :-DD
My, that is one ugly fecker. Looks almost like a small wallaby. Will need thorough roast.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78340 on: December 30, 2020, 02:48:18 am »
Had an interesting session at work today. Measuring the reaction time of a PIN-diode RF switch/selector.
Those (untranslatable) that designed that board obviously thought that test points are for the weak.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78341 on: December 30, 2020, 05:37:00 am »
      Left side finished. Looking good, fits the 54645A like it was made for it. Which it was. ;) Now printing right side. :-+

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Uggh. 14 hour print... test fit and I find I made a 5mm error on one of the walls, which put the rear foot pocket offset wrong by 5mm.  :palm:  Now printing V2.

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This time it does fit!  :box: After 1.7 copies of the wrong one, that is...  |O

This wedge raises the 54645A up 95mm at a point just behind the front feet, but it does not block any airflow out of the 'scope; in fact, it directs the exhaust right towards the vented back of the UTG962E to keep air moving through. :-+

The nice thing, aside from the fact it keeps the UTG962E tucked neatly out of the way yet the front clear for use... is I actually gain almost 6 inches of clear space in front of the scope on top of my cart. And since I have this all plugged into one of those sensor power strips, power on the scope turns both ON/OFF. It was just because that strip was what I had lying under my desk... but I actually kindof like it.   ;D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78342 on: December 30, 2020, 06:30:50 am »
hp scopes have trouble triggering in ALT mode? Lame.  :P :P :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78343 on: December 30, 2020, 09:51:35 am »


@Robert763 I have my eye on a more modern unit on Deutsche fleabay but I expect it'll exceed my price range. Oh well...


What do you want / need to measure / detect? I may have something suitable available.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78344 on: December 30, 2020, 10:10:05 am »
SNIP
BTW never buy a Dell precision 5550. Horrid horrid thing. They tried to copy Apple at every stage and fucked it up massively. I’d be really pissed off if I’d paid for it.
Personally I always thought that Dell was a shit show anyway, I don't think that from all the computers I've had the pleasure of working (as in repairing), none have been such bad performers as Dell's. I have been given a Dell Dimension 5520 tower that currently sits under my desk/bench that I was supposed to be returning into a games machine to play my many games that need windoze XP or 7 to run on. The thing it is still sitting there 2 years later, I can't be arsed to do it because it will be a disappointment I'm sure.

The old precision desktops were fairly good but the consumer desktops were vile bits of crap. As were the laptops. This carries through.

My specific complaints are as follows so you can see what a shitty job they did, mostly comparing to a MacBook Pro.

1. It’s packed like an Apple machine ie nearly with plastic pull tab to get it out. However the box liner is made of shit plastic and when you pull the plastic tab the laptop gets stuck in the box because it warps.
2. When you eventually tip the box upside down to get it out all the other crap falls out onto the floor.
3. Everything is covered with self adhesive plastic which leaves residue on the charger. Apple only put the glue on bits that stick to other bits of wrapper.
4. The charger runs hotter than Satan’s bollocks. New Apple M1’s run cold.
5. The entire laptop weighs a whole Kg more than a 15” MacBook Pro. It’s close to my massive HP Elitebook from the dark ages.
6. It arrived dead in the box and needed charging right away for ten minutes before it would even boot. This was a custom build.
7. The power button isn’t even marked on it and is shared with the finger print reader.
8. Half the edit keys require hitting the Fn meta keys which make it hell for programming on.
9. The entire palm rest area is made of the shittiest plastic they could muster. It feels horrible like a chalk board.
10. Only 2/3 of the space bar actually can be pressed.
11. The trackpad has really poor palm rejection meaning you have to constantly hold your hands like a spider legging it.
12. It’s impossible to reliably right click on it because they copied Apple’s tap two fingers and did a terrible job of it.
13. You can’t press to click on the top inch of the touchpad at all and you have varying pressure across the rest of it which makes reliably clicking difficult.
14. The thing is loud. When I’ve got the dryer going in the next room I can hear the laptop over it.
15. SD card reader isn’t a latching one so the card sticks out while it’s being used.
16. Battery life is abysmal. I got 2 hours out of it doing normal software dev work.

It’s a complete failure of a machine from end to end. Hence its being parked on the desk and used as a network access desktop via RDP. At the same time I’m going to get them to order a replacement thinkpad which is definitely going to be better than this turd.

Honestly at this point if this is what people think is decent on the PC side of things, which is possible as this thing actually has positive reviews (?!??!?) then the whole market just needs to curl up and die.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78345 on: December 30, 2020, 10:22:07 am »
fleaBay day:


45 quid per MHz, bargain! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-K-PRECISION-1432-1432-USED-TESTED-CLEANED/392307916820


Haha, they are always asking stupid money for their stuff, if its from Radwell, leave it well alone is my motto. I wonder if there is anybody stupid enough to pay their ridiculous valuations?

They do sell quite a lot of non-TE. Their main market is industrial maintenance where a machine or whole production line is down for an old or out of stock component so company will pay well over the odds to get up and running again. Add the accountants like of having a minimum number of supplier accounts and people start using them for anthing odd. A lot of their "stock" is actually on consignment. money for old rope (almost literally) once you are up and running for a few years.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78346 on: December 30, 2020, 10:43:05 am »
SNIP
BTW never buy a Dell precision 5550. Horrid horrid thing. They tried to copy Apple at every stage and fucked it up massively. I’d be really pissed off if I’d paid for it.
Personally I always thought that Dell was a shit show anyway, I don't think that from all the computers I've had the pleasure of working (as in repairing), none have been such bad performers as Dell's. I have been given a Dell Dimension 5520 tower that currently sits under my desk/bench that I was supposed to be returning into a games machine to play my many games that need windoze XP or 7 to run on. The thing it is still sitting there 2 years later, I can't be arsed to do it because it will be a disappointment I'm sure.

The server chassis are quite OK. I've got a PE 710 and a PE 610 here, and in co-lo a PE 1850 that the 610 is slated to replace, and bar a few PSU swaps on the 1850 (Notorious error, but I've got a free supply of supplies and they're doubled so am not really concerned) it's been running very long now. Way, way, way overdue swap there. My file servers are Supermicro chassis, and they're rock solid too. Before Supermicro I had PE 2950 as file servers. Their service was tainted by worn-out RAID controller batteries and bad Seagate HDD, but those things are to be expected. No data lost.

In my military work I had a bunch of Dell laptops; big and clunky enough that one could swap drives (with a screwdriver) in them, enabling compartmented work. They were OK, but not exciting.

At present work, everyone who want Windows get Dell laptops. It seems to work, but I've got a Mac, so couldn't care less ;-)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78347 on: December 30, 2020, 10:54:17 am »
Corporate policy at this place is windows and you get given a windows laptop but everyone has their own macs where the business is done  :-//. More backwards corporate fuckery.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78348 on: December 30, 2020, 11:30:52 am »
      Left side finished. Looking good, fits the 54645A like it was made for it. Which it was. ;) Now printing right side. :-+

mnem
*wanders off in search of caffeine*
Uggh. 14 hour print... test fit and I find I made a 5mm error on one of the walls, which put the rear foot pocket offset wrong by 5mm.  :palm:  Now printing V2.

The Role of Failure in Design, ehhh...?  ;)

mnem
*toddles off to ded* :=\
Well better put a sign up with the theme of 3D printing designers worldwide -  "It'll fit next time"

         
This time it does fit!  :box: After 1.7 copies of the wrong one, that is...  |O

This wedge raises the 54645A up 95mm at a point just behind the front feet, but it does not block any airflow out of the 'scope; in fact, it directs the exhaust right towards the vented back of the UTG962E to keep air moving through. :-+

The nice thing, aside from the fact it keeps the UTG962E tucked neatly out of the way yet the front clear for use... is I actually gain almost 6 inches of clear space in front of the scope on top of my cart. And since I have this all plugged into one of those sensor power strips, power on the scope turns both ON/OFF. It was just because that strip was what I had lying under my desk... but I actually kindof like it.   ;D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #78349 on: December 30, 2020, 12:54:35 pm »
hp scopes have trouble triggering in ALT mode? Lame.  :P :P :-DD


you wanna' provide some context for that?    :box:
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