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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69250 on: September 12, 2020, 05:19:30 am »
Found this neat 1950s Tektronix oscilloscope pamphlet for sale while searching for more vintage -hp- catalogs and couldn't pass it up.
 
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« Reply #69251 on: September 12, 2020, 05:20:18 am »
FUUUUUU... I just looked at my pwn; weather app sez it's going down to 7 degrees tonight.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69252 on: September 12, 2020, 05:22:06 am »
That's what you get for moving to an arctic wasteland.  :P
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69253 on: September 12, 2020, 05:53:49 am »
That's what you get for moving to an arctic wasteland.  :P

He's being a drama queen. That's 7 C or 45 F. Meh...... ::) :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69254 on: September 12, 2020, 06:17:03 am »
I've never had a problem with the GSP, as a buyer or a seller, it takes the hassle factor out as far as I'm concerned.

While I agree it works (the re-packing is not wonderful, at times), I've got a Harrison / -hp- 6206 in dubious condition ( The mains cable is cut, so with my luck the transformer is crapped out...  :palm: ) coming from the Pacific Northwest, a shipment that just spent the lions share of a week in the hands of US Post Office, only to end up in batch-related neglect in Erlanger for another. And for this we're paying a bit more than we oughta.  Good thing the USD is well below 9 SEK now; makes it a bit more bearable.
 
But, both the -hp- 428b and the Fluke 8060 saw Erlanger on their way to me, and are prized possesions now.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69255 on: September 12, 2020, 07:35:38 am »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69256 on: September 12, 2020, 07:40:10 am »
I've never had a problem with the GSP, as a buyer or a seller, it takes the hassle factor out as far as I'm concerned.

While I agree it works (the re-packing is not wonderful, at times), I've got a Harrison / -hp- 6206 in dubious condition ( The mains cable is cut, so with my luck the transformer is crapped out...  :palm: ) coming from the Pacific Northwest, a shipment that just spent the lions share of a week in the hands of US Post Office, only to end up in batch-related neglect in Erlanger for another. And for this we're paying a bit more than we oughta.  Good thing the USD is well below 9 SEK now; makes it a bit more bearable.
 
But, both the -hp- 428b and the Fluke 8060 saw Erlanger on their way to me, and are prized possesions now.
Likewise, all of my US purchases have come via Erlanger and they arrived here very well packed to withstand a nuclear blast, completely intact and fully working.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69257 on: September 12, 2020, 08:13:45 am »
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/digitalmutimeter-hp-agilent-34401a/1505319398-168-1926

it seems to be one of the old ones ...

This seller offers another one for 400 EUR with exactly the same photo and text ...
Otherwise, if it's working and tested as he wrote, and the display looky okayish (depending on the photo, one cannot recognize a worn out VFD always) 330 EUR is very OK.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69258 on: September 12, 2020, 08:59:59 am »
I think I need a consult. Potential eBay buyer:

Schönen Tag.

  Wie hoch sind die endgültigen Kosten des Artikels?

Vielen Dank


Me:

Hi,

Not sure what you mean? Aside from the listed price, there's a 20€ shipping charge? Other than that, all costs are included..


Dude:

Danke für deine Antwort,
Ich werde 440 EUR für den Artikel mit Versand nach Großbritannien bezahlen,
und ich möchte die Zahlung per Banküberweisung machen,
Bitte senden Sie mir die folgenden Informationen für die Zahlung
wenn Sie mit meinem Angebot einverstanden sind

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Vielen Dank

antworten Sie mir direkt auf meine E-Mail (xxx@gmail.com)


At this point I notice he has 0 feedback. Reply:

Hello,

My appologies, I hadn't noticed this was your first eBay purchase (I think..) I should have been more considerate. A few points:

- Handling this directly by mail is not allowed once contact has been established on eBay. Both your account and mine can be suspended because of that and I think I can be charged a fee for it.
- Just make sure to set your shipping address to the UK address you want it shipped to
- Purchase the item on eBay
- After this, eBay will give you access to all details you require (such as bank details etc...)
- eBay will also list the price including shipping (shipping to the UK is only 30€ by the way...)

if you have further questions, don't hesitate...


Him:

Meine Bank wird Sie bitten, mir die folgenden Details per E-Mail zu senden, damit ich die Zahlung vornehmen kann.

DEIN NAME
IBAN
EMAIL
ARTIKELNAME
GESAMTKOSTEN

Vielen Dank, dass wir bald von Ihnen hören

Hier ist meine E-Mail (xxx@gmail.com)


At this point I'm thinking scammer and I'm sure I'm not sending him anything outside eBay. Thoughts?
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69259 on: September 12, 2020, 09:04:24 am »
PayPal only or you have a mule bank account to get the money.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69260 on: September 12, 2020, 09:15:37 am »
Mule bank account?
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69261 on: September 12, 2020, 09:19:04 am »
Separate account just for PayPal. So basically you withdraw into that then transfer it to your main account. Stops PayPal emptying it if the buyer is a dick. I have one.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69262 on: September 12, 2020, 09:20:39 am »
34401a for 330 ... ok or not ? VFD ok, no leads.

Given your penchant for tinkering with high-end audio, shouldn't you be looking for a Keithley 2015/6?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69263 on: September 12, 2020, 10:11:43 am »
What bd did for me a few years ago I'm paying forward today. Helping a newb with a 465 that has no -8VDC. Turns out that section of the PSU is identical 465 vs 465B except for the value of the main filter cap. So I pulled my 465B out of the case and took some measurements. Hopefully it will help him fix it. 

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/newbie-with-tek-465/

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69264 on: September 12, 2020, 10:17:04 am »
I think I need a consult. Potential eBay buyer:

Schönen Tag.

  Wie hoch sind die endgültigen Kosten des Artikels?

Vielen Dank


Me:

Hi,

Not sure what you mean? Aside from the listed price, there's a 20€ shipping charge? Other than that, all costs are included..


Dude:

Danke für deine Antwort,
Ich werde 440 EUR für den Artikel mit Versand nach Großbritannien bezahlen,
und ich möchte die Zahlung per Banküberweisung machen,
Bitte senden Sie mir die folgenden Informationen für die Zahlung
wenn Sie mit meinem Angebot einverstanden sind

DEIN NAME
BANK NAME
IBAN
BIC CODE
EMAIL
LAND
ARTIKELNAME
GESAMTPREIS

Vielen Dank

antworten Sie mir direkt auf meine E-Mail (xxx@gmail.com)


At this point I notice he has 0 feedback. Reply:

Hello,

My appologies, I hadn't noticed this was your first eBay purchase (I think..) I should have been more considerate. A few points:

- Handling this directly by mail is not allowed once contact has been established on eBay. Both your account and mine can be suspended because of that and I think I can be charged a fee for it.
- Just make sure to set your shipping address to the UK address you want it shipped to
- Purchase the item on eBay
- After this, eBay will give you access to all details you require (such as bank details etc...)
- eBay will also list the price including shipping (shipping to the UK is only 30€ by the way...)

if you have further questions, don't hesitate...


Him:

Meine Bank wird Sie bitten, mir die folgenden Details per E-Mail zu senden, damit ich die Zahlung vornehmen kann.

DEIN NAME
IBAN
EMAIL
ARTIKELNAME
GESAMTKOSTEN

Vielen Dank, dass wir bald von Ihnen hören

Hier ist meine E-Mail (xxx@gmail.com)


At this point I'm thinking scammer and I'm sure I'm not sending him anything outside eBay. Thoughts?

That's screaming SCAM right in your face, don't walk away from it, run!

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69265 on: September 12, 2020, 10:24:29 am »
@Med6753, yup, thats the spirit  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69266 on: September 12, 2020, 11:15:12 am »
I think I need a consult. Potential eBay buyer:

Schönen Tag.

  Wie hoch sind die endgültigen Kosten des Artikels?

Vielen Dank


Me:

Hi,

Not sure what you mean? Aside from the listed price, there's a 20€ shipping charge? Other than that, all costs are included..


Dude:

Danke für deine Antwort,
Ich werde 440 EUR für den Artikel mit Versand nach Großbritannien bezahlen,
und ich möchte die Zahlung per Banküberweisung machen,
Bitte senden Sie mir die folgenden Informationen für die Zahlung
wenn Sie mit meinem Angebot einverstanden sind

DEIN NAME
BANK NAME
IBAN
BIC CODE
EMAIL
LAND
ARTIKELNAME
GESAMTPREIS

Vielen Dank

antworten Sie mir direkt auf meine E-Mail (xxx@gmail.com)


At this point I notice he has 0 feedback. Reply:

Hello,

My appologies, I hadn't noticed this was your first eBay purchase (I think..) I should have been more considerate. A few points:

- Handling this directly by mail is not allowed once contact has been established on eBay. Both your account and mine can be suspended because of that and I think I can be charged a fee for it.
- Just make sure to set your shipping address to the UK address you want it shipped to
- Purchase the item on eBay
- After this, eBay will give you access to all details you require (such as bank details etc...)
- eBay will also list the price including shipping (shipping to the UK is only 30€ by the way...)

if you have further questions, don't hesitate...


Him:

Meine Bank wird Sie bitten, mir die folgenden Details per E-Mail zu senden, damit ich die Zahlung vornehmen kann.

DEIN NAME
IBAN
EMAIL
ARTIKELNAME
GESAMTKOSTEN

Vielen Dank, dass wir bald von Ihnen hören

Hier ist meine E-Mail (xxx@gmail.com)


At this point I'm thinking scammer and I'm sure I'm not sending him anything outside eBay. Thoughts?

That's screaming SCAM right in your face, don't walk away from it, run!

McBryce.

I concur. Report it to eBay.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69267 on: September 12, 2020, 11:36:00 am »
By the same token, it is a charming conceit amongst Brits, that they "stood alone".
The Commonwealth countries may well say:-"What are we, chopped liver?"

A general rule to go by with "the Mother Country" is that we all regarded as "British" when there is something particularly nasty going for Brits.
Other times, we are "Someone they don't know well, think they made the coffee, or something."

I don't think anybody says that any more and generally when it was said it was said by idiots who weren't there. My father fought alongside Indians and Gurkhas, we conspicuously had RAF squadrons styled like 123 (Canadian) Squadron during the Battle of Britain (just under 73,000 Canadians served in the Air Force in Britain alone in WWII, 100,000 Canadians served in the RCAF in Canada training pilots from all over the Commonwealth).

We even risked letting some of your lot loose over here, like 456 Squadron flying night fighters out of Anglesey. Had to keep them somewhere isolated because, for the life of them, they couldn't brew a proper cup of tea and we had to protect the natives from being offended by the sacrilege - you do not boil the tea leaves in a billy can and you don't put the milk in from a live sheep! The claim that the Australians insisted on being posted there in Wales because there were sheep is, I'm sure, a scurrilous rumour.  :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69268 on: September 12, 2020, 11:48:44 am »
That's what you get for moving to an arctic wasteland.  :P

He's being a drama queen. That's 7 C or 45 F. Meh...... ::) :-DD

We all figured that out, what with him now living in a country with civilised units and all, but it's early September (23º Science outside here at the moment) and 7º is a tad cool for the time of year when one ought to still be able to promenade in the evenings in nothing more than a light jacket with, perhaps, a cane to ward off Yankee ruffians.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69269 on: September 12, 2020, 12:26:16 pm »
That's what you get for moving to an arctic wasteland.  :P

He's being a drama queen. That's 7 C or 45 F. Meh...... ::) :-DD

We all figured that out, what with him now living in a country with civilised units and all, but it's early September (23º Science outside here at the moment) and 7º is a tad cool for the time of year when one ought to still be able to promenade in the evenings in nothing more than a light jacket with, perhaps, a cane to ward off Yankee ruffians.

Hell, it's forecast at 7C tonight, here in Perth, Western Australia, & it's supposed to be Spring!
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69270 on: September 12, 2020, 12:30:10 pm »
By the same token, it is a charming conceit amongst Brits, that they "stood alone".
The Commonwealth countries may well say:-"What are we, chopped liver?"

A general rule to go by with "the Mother Country" is that we all regarded as "British" when there is something particularly nasty going for Brits.
Other times, we are "Someone they don't know well, think they made the coffee, or something."

I don't think anybody says that any more and generally when it was said it was said by idiots who weren't there. My father fought alongside Indians and Gurkhas, we conspicuously had RAF squadrons styled like 123 (Canadian) Squadron during the Battle of Britain (just under 73,000 Canadians served in the Air Force in Britain alone in WWII, 100,000 Canadians served in the RCAF in Canada training pilots from all over the Commonwealth).

We even risked letting some of your lot loose over here, like 456 Squadron flying night fighters out of Anglesey. Had to keep them somewhere isolated because, for the life of them, they couldn't brew a proper cup of tea and we had to protect the natives from being offended by the sacrilege - you do not boil the tea leaves in a billy can and you don't put the milk in from a live sheep! The claim that the Australians insisted on being posted there in Wales because there were sheep is, I'm sure, a scurrilous rumour.  :)

But of course you fail to mention that there were American volunteers in the RAF too. Can't do that. It would invalidate your rant.

Damn Yankees.  :rant:

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69271 on: September 12, 2020, 01:25:01 pm »

<---------- Uncivilized, Un-PC, unapologetic.

Hmmmm. A man, and not a social justice do gooder.
Very inspiring and arousing.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69272 on: September 12, 2020, 01:35:13 pm »

<---------- Uncivilized, Un-PC, unapologetic.

Hmmmm. A man, and not a social justice do gooder.
Very inspiring and arousing.

Stop, people will talk.  :-DD :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69273 on: September 12, 2020, 01:36:35 pm »
All I know is we're all miserable wankers  :-DD

Curve tracer fun. I have a semi working tracer now although the vertical amp is limited to about 60V running off the 6206B at the moment. Also the pass transistor, a BD139 is getting a little hot because I'm waiting for a more suitable replacement.

So some scope outputs to compare the results on a 2n3904.

Firstly we have the Tektronix TDS210 which is quite frankly a shit show of a result (this is a bd139 I think not a 2n3904)



This is followed by the HM605 which comes out pretty good but it turns out that the horizontal input range is easy to bang up against due to how the attenuation works.



Finally we have the SDS1202X-E. I used the ERES mode with 3 extra bits (at the cost of sample rate) as this isn't exactly a fast sweeping device at approx 400Hz. This gives a very nice X-Y plot that you can even see some looping due to either fixture or transistor reactance.



Very impressed with this SDS scope.  :-+

Guess which scope is going on ebay next time  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #69274 on: September 12, 2020, 01:39:10 pm »

<---------- Uncivilized, Un-PC, unapologetic.

Hmmmm. A man, and not a social justice do gooder.
Very inspiring and arousing.

Hmmm,  I'm going to have to try that as a pick-up line, seems to work fine!  :D
 
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