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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65075 on: August 01, 2020, 08:55:57 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65076 on: August 01, 2020, 09:54:39 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65077 on: August 01, 2020, 09:56:12 am »
Wife says i need to play first with the toys i have now, before more is bought....
my excuse i also sell does not work anymore coz she has been in my cave  :palm:



And what lesson did you learn here?  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65078 on: August 01, 2020, 09:59:12 am »
Get divorced ASAP  8)
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65079 on: August 01, 2020, 10:07:01 am »
Get divorced ASAP  8)

I wasn't suggesting anything that drastic but yes, that is the ultimate solution with guaranteed results.  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65080 on: August 01, 2020, 10:07:43 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65081 on: August 01, 2020, 10:12:57 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

Patience my son.  ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65082 on: August 01, 2020, 10:13:15 am »
Get divorced ASAP  8)

I wasn't suggesting anything that drastic but yes, that is the ultimate solution with guaranteed results.  :-DD

Think first i try to make the stairs more steep and scary...
but will keep all solutions in mind..  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65083 on: August 01, 2020, 10:14:59 am »
Get divorced ASAP  8)

I wasn't suggesting anything that drastic but yes, that is the ultimate solution with guaranteed results.  :-DD

Think first i try to make the stairs more steep and scary...
but will keep all solutions in mind..  :-DD

Add some fake spiders and snakes for full effect.  >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65084 on: August 01, 2020, 10:16:37 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

Patience my son.  ;D
You make out like you're the only one with a bag fulla tricks but you not.  :P  ;)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65085 on: August 01, 2020, 10:18:53 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

Patience my son.  ;D
You make out like you're the only one with a bag fulla tricks but you not.  :P  ;)

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I just want to make sure my idea is sound and not half assed first.  :P :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65086 on: August 01, 2020, 10:21:36 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

Patience my son.  ;D
You make out like you're the only one with a bag fulla tricks but you not.  :P  ;)

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I just want to make sure my idea is sound and not half assed first.  :P :-DD
Nutthing to do with blue paint is it ?  :scared:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65087 on: August 01, 2020, 10:23:28 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

Patience my son.  ;D
You make out like you're the only one with a bag fulla tricks but you not.  :P  ;)

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I just want to make sure my idea is sound and not half assed first.  :P :-DD
Nutthing to do with blue paint is it ?  :scared:

 :-DD :-DD Go away. Haven't you got some sheep to chase?  :P :P :P :-DD :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65088 on: August 01, 2020, 10:25:30 am »
C'mon med, spill the beans......my  :popcorn: is getting low !
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65089 on: August 01, 2020, 10:28:14 am »
   

I suspect that may be the exact use case for which Tek designed the big one in this set I got from Neomys Sapiens; it's 300mm long.  :o

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Oh man. I wish I had that set. I used an insulated Wera screwdriver to help me manipulate it from a safe distance. If I had had a large noninductive tool it probably would have made the adjustments a lot easier to see too.

This seems a prime candidate for 3DP.


Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

A vac is what I was going to suggest, and you can make a custom nozzle with card to get it small and high flow very close to your drill site.

I'd advise against vaseline for anything other than really low speed stuff as it's likely to melt and provide zero help. General purpose lithium grease is ok for low speed stuff, but high speed it'll throw swarf off with the centripetal forces.

EDIT: You can use a neodiddelyum magnet on ferrous stuff, but rivets are usually aluminium in my experience.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65090 on: August 01, 2020, 10:30:19 am »
C'mon med, spill the beans......my  :popcorn: is getting low !

Nope, not until I confirm a few things.  :-/O
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65091 on: August 01, 2020, 10:31:30 am »
Just drill them out and screw the cans back in?

No way am I going to do that and risk getting metal shavings everywhere. I'll do it only if it requires replacement of a defective unit....or the POS burns to cinders....whichever occurs first.   :o :-DD

Fuck HP.  ;D
Just take steps to minimise the risk, like using a vacuum cleaner to suck the shavings out as you drill  :-+

Nope, I have something else in mind. Stay tuned.  :-/O
Grease/Vaseline ?

A vac is what I was going to suggest, and you can make a custom nozzle with card to get it small and high flow very close to your drill site.

I'd advise against vaseline for anything other than really low speed stuff as it's likely to melt and provide zero help. General purpose lithium grease is ok for low speed stuff, but high speed it'll throw swarf off with the centripetal forces.

Yeah sure but they're itty bitty rivets so with care heat shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65092 on: August 01, 2020, 10:33:35 am »
See ya'll on Discord in the morning.  :=\
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65093 on: August 01, 2020, 10:51:58 am »
C'mon med, spill the beans......my  :popcorn: is getting low !

Nope, not until I confirm a few things.  :-/O

Well the bigger cans are normally mounted on a paxolin plate that is rivitted to the chassis and the cans attached with lugs twisted over the slot in the paxolin. So I'd straighen the lugs. pull the can off, gut and stuff it and push back on.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65094 on: August 01, 2020, 11:45:51 am »
C'mon med, spill the beans......my  :popcorn: is getting low !

Nope, not until I confirm a few things.  :-/O

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(at least not by a couple of pissy little rivets)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65095 on: August 01, 2020, 11:56:42 am »
Fluke 8060A recap done. Caps were evidently knackered on this as the display took a couple of seconds to fade into existence on startup thus stressing the ICL7660 in there. Fixed now. A common failure point is also these leaking on 8060A's and eating the board as well. So they're gone.

First cap victory...



Little chonkers nestling in there post-assembly



Clean clean and clean some more. No trace of any flux must be left after doing this lest you suffer from non-zero offsets, weird non-linearities and increasing baldness due to head scratching.



Bingo - still works  :phew:



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65096 on: August 01, 2020, 01:28:47 pm »
Can you list what values they are, so that I can order them before removing the old ones from the board?


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65097 on: August 01, 2020, 01:33:39 pm »
100uf 6.3v x5
10uF 16v x2
47uF 16v x1
22uF 16v x1

All need to be low profile <8mm long. 10uF ones need to be <= 5mm diameter.

Check yours is the same though before hand as there are a few variants with different configurations.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65098 on: August 01, 2020, 01:41:36 pm »
Wife says i need to play first with the toys i have now, before more is bought....  my excuse i also sell does not work anymore coz she has been in my cave  :palm:

And what lesson did you learn here?  :-DD

That's right... now repeat after me...

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65099 on: August 01, 2020, 01:56:26 pm »
Well that was most disappointing. I blew up all of the capacitors and was greeted maximally with a “pfft” and that was it. No booms.  :--
 


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