Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[tggzzz]

As for 10% more fuel, you need to be careful with simplistic assumptions.

Like I said, back of fag packet - I allowed for the change in momentum (i.e. v²) and rounded up, ignored the calculus of 'you have to carry that fuel', and qualified it with "at least".

Mommy, he said a bad word. 

Over here poor people bum fags so they can put them in their mouth.
Or beat fags on their bum.
Or like/dislike being fagged, depending on what caused them to be fagged.

[mnementh]

I still think it was "calculus" he was on about... 

mnem
*toddles off to recycle his gas grill*

[Saskia]

[Saskia]

Safer than what the German government is considering: launching space going rockets from oil rigs. 

What could possibly go wrong?

Another problem there: they don't have oil rigs. Which means they would have to either invade Norway or Scotland or the US. 
What do the German Luftwaffe of 1945 and 2020 have in common ?
4 airworthy aircraft ...

And now for something completely different:

https://youtu.be/5f8MinrUTpw

[Saskia]

waiting for that Tektronix auction to end ... a small Tek224 ...
will my bid be enough ? hmmmm

[Mr. Scram]

Safer than what the German government is considering: launching space going rockets from oil rigs. 

Sea Launch is a thing. Not to be confused with sea lunch.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Launch

[Saskia]

I know that you can sea launch a rocket. I seriously doubt though, that German politicians meddling in these things can accomplish anything. The new Berlin airport has busted the original budget with how many billion euros sunk and how much delay ? Wasn't the philharmonic orchestra hall in Hamburg 2 - 3 times as expensive as planned ? What about Stuttgart train station ? Aren't they even able to build an effing train station ? The day dreaming about an aircraft carrier without even having the ships available to set up the escorts ? Or the planes to put onto the carrier ?

And then daydreaming about getting a rocket into space even though they never did it before ?
On an oil rig that they never built ?

[Mr. Scram]

I know that you can sea launch a rocket. I seriously doubt though, that German politicians meddling in these things can accomplish anything. The new Berlin airport has busted the original budget with how many billion euros sunk and how much delay ? Wasn't the philharmonic orchestra hall in Hamburg 2 - 3 times as expensive as planned ? What about Stuttgart train station ? Aren't they even able to build an effing train station ? The day dreaming about an aircraft carrier without even having the ships available to set up the escorts ? Or the planes to put onto the carrier ?

And then daydreaming about getting a rocket into space even though they never did it before ?
On an oil rig that they never built ?

Government projects which balloon to incredible costs, many times to original projection with disappointing or outright dysfunctional results? No! Which government is that? All of them you say?

[Saskia]

waiting for that Tektronix auction to end ... a small Tek224 ...
will my bid be enough ? hmmmm

Nope, it ain't. Not gonna raise my bid tho.

[mansaxel]

Aaaand today it is TE on a field trip.



which of course is here if the image management still is b0rkened.

A UK MOD Avometer, in its protective case, doing some resistance measurements for electrical installations in my brother-in-laws cold, damp basement. Luckily enough, the instrument is tropicalised (for the already then nearly-nonexistant colonies, one supposes) and there is a niche in the wall allowing it to sit horizontally so it'll reach its stated accuracy.

I remember I defined "Overkill" as a synonym to "Appropriate", upthread, yep. This is to that spirit.

I also had the crank Megger out to test a buried cable between two buildings. Worked just fine, it did.

[BU508A]

Today arrivals:

- a new keyboard from Logitech
- a new 4l ultrasonic cleaner from the EMMI AG near Walldorf (ordered @ Voelkner)
- some electron tubes (E90CC, EF80)
- empty boxes for electron tubes (the white one below the EF80)
- some 2mm mini banana plugs from Stäubli MultiContact
- some grabbers from Stäubli MultiContact to be connected with 2mm plugs
- some transistors for an upcoming project (MPSA 42 and MPSA 92)
- three USB chargers with an LED display. Was an offer @ Voelkner for around 7 Euro each (otherwise nearly 20 Euro)
- Some Pomona grabbers (3781-24-0 and -2)

I was surprised, how cheap the Pomonas and the Stäubli MultiContact Stuff is @ Voelkner. Couldn't resist.

This is the EMMI ultrasonic cleaner. The pcb in it is a standard one with 160 x 100mm²


Overview:


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[bd139]

Excellent 

[mansaxel]

There are a lot of Phillips users who think they're blissfully ignored JIS for many a year, but if they go and examine the screw heads on anything Japanese that they own, and have taken apart, the apprentice marks will be witness that it wasn't quite as blissful as they thought.

Ok, it's been in my watch list enough long. Here goes.



Done! Thanks for enabling me.

[bd139]

This is genuinely one reason why you never see any Japanese kit in my place.

[AVGresponding]

At last !
My solartron 7150 functions nicely 

Looks like the 4 LED's, 2 on each end of the display have given up, I'd recommend that you replace those and the mains input filter, (part of the mains socket) is replaced as round about it likely to be a pipe bomb waiting to go off with age. Otherwise, it looks to be a pretty good 6.5digit meter, well done.

The LEDs might not be dead; mine had one of the header pins bent, so I carefully bent it back into shape, and voila, working LEDs. Not very bright LEDs, but working ones.

I've always found the "you need to be on the equator to launch orbiting things" a bit specious. Yes, you get 1000 mph (0.4 km/s) for free, but that's a small part of the 7-8 kilometers per second that you need even for a low earth orbit (over 11 km/s for escape velocity). Sure, you use al least 10% more fuel (can't be bothered to work it out properly, it gets too calculusy for the back of a fag packet), or have a lower payload, but you gain convenience, launch from home territory (which has positive security implications) and you don't have to constantly ferry staff half way around the world.

And of course you can drop "When I was driving past the spaceport the other day" into conversation with the French - "Yes, I know you've got one in French Guiana, but that's hardly on the way to the shops is it? Here, have a glass of bubbly in consolation. Yes, it is good isn't it - from Kent don't ya know. [Sound of apoplectic choking in French]". 

For a given payload, it's going to be cheaper and easier to launch it from the equator. Given the enormous costs involved, that's not to be sneezed at. Especially these days as you'd have to self-isolate for two weeks afterwards.
The UK must still have plenty of remaining colonial era territories that could be used.

Nah, never going to happen, our economy cannot afford such luxury items.

We're still the 5th or 6th biggest economy in the world. Everybody and his maiden uncle are doing it these days, I don't see why we can't, though I think the dropping out of the Galileo project is epic stupidity, and it seems we may be dropping out of ITER too, because BoJo the clown can't understand these are important things.
Fuck all politicians, if Jeremy Corbyn had got in (I voted Labour) we'd still have the same problems, as he'd have slashed funding for everything vaguely military, and his distrust for the EU would probably have led him down the same damn path.

All the colours you've ever wanted in one small drawer:

Safer than what the German government is considering: launching space going rockets from oil rigs. 

What could possibly go wrong?

Maybe they're planning on getting additional thrust that way...

[PA0PBZ]

Counter with CRT in buy/sell/wanted:



https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/(fs)-eu-used-agilent-1680a-tektronix-dpo3032-rs-hmo3032-rs-smiq03s/msg3163412/#msg3163412

Tony? 

[Specmaster]

Safer than what the German government is considering: launching space going rockets from oil rigs. 

What could possibly go wrong?

Another problem there: they don't have oil rigs. Which means they would have to either invade Norway or Scotland or the US. 
What do the German Luftwaffe of 1945 and 2020 have in common ?
4 airworthy aircraft ...

And now for something completely different:

https://youtu.be/5f8MinrUTpw

and now

[Specmaster]

Today arrivals:

- a new keyboard from Logitech
- a new 4l ultrasonic cleaner from the EMMI AG near Walldorf (ordered @ Voelkner)
- some electron tubes (E90CC, EF80)
- empty boxes for electron tubes (the white one below the EF80)
- some 2mm mini banana plugs from Stäubli MultiContact
- some grabbers from Stäubli MultiContact to be connected with 2mm plugs
- some transistors for an upcoming project (MPSA 42 and MPSA 92)
- three USB chargers with an LED display. Was an offer @ Voelkner for around 7 Euro each (otherwise nearly 20 Euro)
- Some Pomona grabbers (3781-24-0 and -2)

I was surprised, how cheap the Pomonas and the Stäubli MultiContact Stuff is @ Voelkner. Couldn't resist.

This is the EMMI ultrasonic cleaner. The pcb in it is a standard one with 160 x 100mm²


Overview:


Details:

Nice cleaner, I'm so jelly right now, mine has been returned for a refund as the selller was not prepared to exchange it for the one he used in his description 

[Cerebus]

There are a lot of Phillips users who think they're blissfully ignored JIS for many a year, but if they go and examine the screw heads on anything Japanese that they own, and have taken apart, the apprentice marks will be witness that it wasn't quite as blissful as they thought.

Ok, it's been in my watch list enough long. Here goes.

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Done! Thanks for enabling me.

Glad to be of service!

Tip for anyone who cares to know. Wera's small precision screwdrivers have a grind that makes them a proper fit both for Phillips and JIS. These ones:

[bd139]

Ahha I have that set too. Very nice screwdrivers. Didn’t know they worked with JIS heads.

[Cubdriver]

As a heads up to any who may be interested, apparently someone on the bay of evil has stumbled onto a cache of those HP coffee mugs:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/114327183149?ul_noapp=true&shqty=2&isGTR=1#shId

There are allegedly more than ten available, and the price is not too insane compared to what I've seen them go for in the past.

-Pat

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[Mr. Scram]

As a heads up to any who may be interested, apparently someone on the bay of evil has stumbled onto a cache of those HP coffee mugs:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114327183149?ul_noapp=true&shqty=2&isGTR=1#shId

There are allegedly more than ten available, and the price is not too insane compared to what I've seen them go for in the past.

-Pat

Shipping them here makes it very uninteresting, unfortunately.

[bd139]

Damn I’d buy one buy £28 shipping plus charges on top.

[BU508A]

Damn I’d buy one buy £28 shipping plus charges on top.

"$40.74 International Priority Shipping to Germany  via the Global Shipping Program"
"$68.02 for 2 International Priority Shipping to Germany  via the Global Shipping Program"

Arrrgh! This is insane! I'd like to have one, but this shipping is ridiculous.   

[bd139]

Wow that’s cheaper for us. That’s a first!