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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63600 on: July 17, 2020, 01:31:17 pm »
How could you not though?  :-DD

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Even has three entire feet!

Of course. Look at how clean it is. Someone took great care of it.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63601 on: July 17, 2020, 01:40:53 pm »
meant this tag on the front.

the national stock number will be   xxxx-xx-xxx-xxxx

the other number will be the contract #.   usually starts with F if air force,  W if army, and N if navy.  usually.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63602 on: July 17, 2020, 01:57:23 pm »
The consistency is inconsistency  :-DD
Yup, how true, IIRC you said that you'd done with running when you fucked your knee last time, you just won't accept that you are not young any more will you and adjust your lifestyle to suit  ::)
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« Reply #63603 on: July 17, 2020, 01:59:34 pm »
Yeah I agree. So I’ve gone and bought a 29lb scope  8) :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63604 on: July 17, 2020, 02:04:02 pm »
Yeah I agree. So I’ve gone and bought a 29lb scope  8) :-DD
At least its a good one, but theres just one thing that has to be said, its a TEK :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63605 on: July 17, 2020, 02:12:53 pm »
That’s a beast isn’t it.

On the subject of beasts guess who just bought a semi boat anchor. Now need to work out how to get it with a fucked arm  :-DD

Edit: tek 454 (yeah I know) and just won a PL320 as well. Back on the wagon
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63606 on: July 17, 2020, 02:27:57 pm »
meant this tag on the front.

the national stock number will be   xxxx-xx-xxx-xxxx

the other number will be the contract #.   usually starts with F if air force,  W if army, and N if navy.  usually.

You are correct. Starts with an "F".
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63607 on: July 17, 2020, 03:23:54 pm »
The consistency is inconsistency  :-DD

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines...." Ralph Waldo Emerson.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63608 on: July 17, 2020, 04:38:45 pm »
A point I’m sure will be made about lab space but I’ll rent a local office for that and work. By the time I’ve finished working the kids will have buggered off so I’ll move the TE back into the house

I'm more concerned about the lack of space for a moat. And you can see other houses around, implying people. I was led to believe avoiding them was the core of the plan?

Yes indeed. However if I buy a moat it means I have to work for another decade. I figured there was a compromise somewhere  :-DD

There is; but laser-sharks in robot-walker-skinsuits are pretty high maintenance. When will you have time to work on your plans for world domination?  >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63609 on: July 17, 2020, 04:46:13 pm »
Making space for TE...   all these little drawer-racks go... little drawers i keep.       the little drawers go in here... More space for TE where those drawer-racks were  8)
Good plan. Makes it much easier for your widow to wheel it all to the dumpster with a hand-truck.  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63610 on: July 17, 2020, 04:50:34 pm »
almost gave this one to med but decided against it.      would probably be better suited for the dragon since it fits with his "my little pony" hobby.

I would have that in my possession for all of ~1.3 seconds before the little grrl glommed onto it and squirreled it away in the bottom of her toy chest, never again to see the light of day...  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63611 on: July 17, 2020, 04:51:31 pm »

I replace those HP inlets with the IEC 60320 C6 "mickey mouse" inlets This style
cpc.farnell.com/schurter/4300-0100/c6-iec-inlet-0724-screw-solder/dp/CN19989
can be fitted with minimal metal work change or none if you make an adaptor plate.

That is a very good idea! Thanks.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63612 on: July 17, 2020, 05:04:52 pm »
This $10,- Noise Source .. thing adds a lot of value to a SA without TG .. i like it.


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63613 on: July 17, 2020, 05:07:49 pm »
Looks old and musty. Cloudy and rainy. Quaint. With sheep roaming the hills and perverted shepherds.  >:D ;D

So typical English.  :P :-DD

Actually there are alpacas in them thar hills, less than a kilometer away. Seriously. (Or at least there were a decade ago.) The wild wallabies are in the Derbyshire hills.

Peverted shepards are normally associated with Wales - where men are men and sheep are afraid.

The sheep in Wales are afraid of my nephew here:      

I thought it was Oz where "the men are men and the sheep are centerfolds"...?    :o   


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63614 on: July 17, 2020, 05:17:00 pm »
almost gave this one to med but decided against it.      would probably be better suited for the dragon since it fits with his "my little pony" hobby.

I would have that in my possession for all of ~1.3 seconds before the little grrl glommed onto it and squirreled it away in the bottom of her toy chest, never again to see the light of day...  :-DD

And you would probably both be happy about that.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63615 on: July 17, 2020, 05:19:07 pm »
Until tax time rolled around... then you'd see me rooting around in the bottom of that toy chest like a desperate fool...    :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63616 on: July 17, 2020, 05:23:03 pm »
The consistency is inconsistency  :-DD

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines...." Ralph Waldo Emerson.

"With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it may contradict everything you said today."

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63617 on: July 17, 2020, 05:28:23 pm »
the thing about old direct counters like the 524x series is that they take a direct count.  gate opens, events are counted, gate closes.  so there is no reciprocal math, no interpolation, no averaging, no nothin'.   this means there is always a plus or minus one uncertainty in the least significant digit.  but you can say your 5248 agrees with your ocxo standard to better than 1 part in 10^7.  how much better?  best not to ask or you will be down the rabbit hole of time nuttery.

have had lots of 524x counters pass thru my hands and have very rarely needed to replace a cap.  maybe cub has advice on recapping?  (if your obsessive compulsive tendency gets to you ok.....but probably not necessary).

never heard of a fan quieting fix for them either.  only suggestion from me is to purchase a snubbie .357 mag and put a couple of ammo bricks downrange without ear protection.  afterward the fan noise will be moot.

edit  my recollection is .....that particular counter is ex air force.  does that tmde tag on top say usaf?  don't remember.  you should be able to tell by the contract # on the tag stuck on the front.  zoomies are all deaf from hanging around the flight line and can't hear fans either.

In my experience, the caps in those counters and similar gear of that time period are rather digital, in that they used very good ones and designed conservatively around them - they're either working or stone dead.  Those that I've had to restuff were dead as doornails - either dried out or with one of the internal interconnects open.  Those instances have been unusual; most are still chugging away.

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Corroded connection - note the inboard end of the ribbon at 3:30 (manufacturing defect? contamination, perhaps?)


And I know I've posted this before - my 5248M might need a fan...


As far as the can caps go, though, I'd leave them be unless they're bad - bear in mind that these are solid state, and thus run a bit cooler than your usual Tek room heaters that happen to have oscilloscope controls and a display, Mike.  (Though if you decide to get OCD, you know what to do with the cans.   :-DD )  (And if they were truly OCD, shouldn't that be CDO?  It's not alphabetically ordered!)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63618 on: July 17, 2020, 05:33:27 pm »
Yeah I’ve had ones that are 60 years old that were good  :scared:

Have gone a bit “tonyalbus” on eBay today  :-DD. More stuff arriving soon  >:D 8)

Edit: and another offer accepted. Decided “fuck it” was in order. Cupboard of doom will be recommissioned.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63619 on: July 17, 2020, 05:59:57 pm »
Thanks! At least it is obtainable new which is a lot better than the crap connector =hp= used; you know the one that's gone except it's available from some crazy guy who bought a giant stockpile NOS and now tries to make them his pension fund..

You mean this one (it is the type PH-163)?



Some time ago I stumbled over an offer in ebay: 10 Euro / piece. I bought two of them, one of them was so brittle, that I had to shorten the cable to a length of ca. 30cm (this one in the picture above).

Edit:
Here is a current offer in the bay (offered in the US for nearly 30 USD per piece plus shipping):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184355185764

Just keep buying more HP TE, you'll soon end up with lots of them, I do avoid or bid less if they have been bodged with those oversize IEC pieces of crap. The early IEC inlets on HP TE seem to be made of cheese.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63620 on: July 17, 2020, 06:00:52 pm »
Yeah I’ve had ones that are 60 years old that were good  :scared:

Have gone a bit “tonyalbus” on eBay today  :-DD. More stuff arriving soon  >:D 8)

Edit: and another offer accepted. Decided “fuck it” was in order. Cupboard of doom will be recommissioned.

Okay... who had 7/17/2020 in the "bd139 Recidivism" pool...? Was that you cub, or was it Brumby...?  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63621 on: July 17, 2020, 06:02:22 pm »
I blame the codeine  8)
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63622 on: July 17, 2020, 06:12:29 pm »
This 5248L is a monster. It won't fit on any of my benches unless I clear them off. So it sits on the kitchen counter. And I have no idea where I'm going to put it later.  :-//

After running and stabilizing for a few hours there's 1Hz discrepancy with my reference. I can live with that. But there's something I can't live with. Normally cooling fans don't bother me. I thought the fan in the Type 535A was kinda loud but not annoying. Holy jumping shitballs the fan in this counter is over the top. It drives me nuts. Is there a mod for a quieter fan?  :scared:

Fan noise doesn't bother me either, the neighbours the other side of the workshop wall are way noisier, plus work now involves operating a very loud Schiess lathe.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63623 on: July 17, 2020, 07:45:42 pm »
This $10,- Noise Source .. thing adds a lot of value to a SA without TG .. i like it.



Some cautions are necessary when using such "poor man's tracking generators", especially with hiogh-end spectrum analysers.

Make sure there is no DC on the output.

Make sure the total power output across all bands is less than the spectrum analyser's max input power.

Be aware that if there are any non-linearities in the components in the UUT, then intermodulation products will be produced and will be visible as a raised noise floor.

The combination of internpud products plus the limited power in the bandwidth being measured by the spectrum analyser, means the dynamic range will be limited. It may be difficult to see a filter's stopband attenuation.

Nonetheless, such techniques can be useful. I've used them with an SDR dongle to measure filter characteristics and as a poor-man's TDR (resolution 3cm).
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #63624 on: July 17, 2020, 07:54:51 pm »
|O :palm:


There is a special place in my heart for /hp/ nixie counters. Nice!

Did not pay to much... now i read better, for the nixies and psu.... the deal is done... just asked now if he took out parts or its just broken..
lest see... would be nice if it can be fixed... and not to much is taken out...
Yes i saw it, i needed to have it...  now i need to sell even more redundant TE (except for the specials)

Very nice, one of the less common HP counters. Hopefully another less common HP counter should be on it's way from Germany back to the UK to join my collection.

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