Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[med6753]

Having a police/fire scanner can save you aggravation....

Was just going to head out to my fav convenience store for some sundries. Major accident at that intersection. Debris all over road. Apparently several injuries. Road now closed and traffic diverted. Sounds like a major cluster and I would have driven right into it. 

[mnementh]

We have this thing on our phones nowadays... it's called Google Maps. Live traffic overlay that actually draws you a picture of the mayhem. 

mnem
*agitating-ily*

[0culus]

Yeah, and guess how they do that? By geolocation of everyone's phone and using GPS speed estimates. Unfortunately, the privacy conscious option of scanners is quickly becoming useless as police/fire/EMS are largely moving to encrypted digital radio around cities. Rural departments will hold out a lot longer I'm sure.

[mnementh]

Yeah it’s not like it’s us who are the traitors really is it? 

Nope. Just your brilliant leaders. 

mnem
(Attachment Link)
       "Evil knows evil."

correct, just yours, perhaps we send Johnson and Trump off to an uninhabited island and let them get on with it.

*Sigh*

If it were only that simple... we both know those bloated gasbags are only lightning-rods to distract the public eye from the real evil being done. In our case, it's treasonous Nosferaturtle Mitch McConnell and his Soulless Minions of Orthodoxy that have been systematically dismantling the Constitution for 30 years; they're the Left Hand of Darkness doing the dirty work of those who own Chump, and Cheney before him, and Bush senior before him.

At this point they've gotten so arrogant... the evildoing so blatant... that ONLY something so trollishly farcical as Chump in the White House could possibly serve as a distraction.

He's like a burning bag of dogshit somebody put on your front porch to get you out of the house so they can lock the doors behind you and bulldoze it to make a parking lot.

I'm sure you have your own similar nest of undead bloodsuckers working Parliament and The House in the same way; it's not like this is even the first time this scenrio has played out in recent history. Events are unfolding here and on the world stage that mirror the events that led up to our Great Depression and the collapse of the American Economy in the 1920s; we all know how that affected the world economy in the 30s & 40s. When your biggest customer stops having money to buy, it's almost as disruptive as was our Industrial Revolution. 

mnem
I just wish I could've gotten my kids a little further away from ground zero... 

[BU508A]

We have this thing on our phones nowadays... it's called Google Maps. Live traffic overlay that actually draws you a picture of the mayhem. 

mnem
*agitating-ily*

A few days ago, there was this article in the Heise newsticker (German IT magazine) about a guy with a "Bollerwagen" (handcart) loaded with 99 cheap mobile phones with GPS. Google maps reported then a traffic jam which was not. 

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Virtueller-Stau-auf-Google-Maps-als-Kunstwerk-4651651.html

Edit:

English version:
http://www.simonweckert.com/googlemapshacks.html

[AVGresponding]

Yeah it’s not like it’s us who are the traitors really is it? 

it has been, what, like three hundred years?  you all are just never going to let that go, are you?     .

They're still sore that a rag tag army of farmers and woodsman beat their arse. 

I'm just annoyed at the waste of tea...

[AVGresponding]

We have this thing on our phones nowadays... it's called Google Maps. Live traffic overlay that actually draws you a picture of the mayhem. 

mnem
*agitating-ily*

A few days ago, there was this article in the Heise newsticker (German IT magazine) about a guy with a "Bollerwagen" (handcart) loaded with 99 cheap mobile phones with GPS. Google maps reported then a traffic jam which was not. 

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Virtueller-Stau-auf-Google-Maps-als-Kunstwerk-4651651.html

The guy was carting them around, with them all switched on?!?   

[BU508A]

Yeah it’s not like it’s us who are the traitors really is it? 

it has been, what, like three hundred years?  you all are just never going to let that go, are you?     .

They're still sore that a rag tag army of farmers and woodsman beat their arse. 

I'm just annoyed at the waste of tea...

Do the colonies becoming cheeky again? 

[BU508A]

We have this thing on our phones nowadays... it's called Google Maps. Live traffic overlay that actually draws you a picture of the mayhem. 

mnem
*agitating-ily*

A few days ago, there was this article in the Heise newsticker (German IT magazine) about a guy with a "Bollerwagen" (handcart) loaded with 99 cheap mobile phones with GPS. Google maps reported then a traffic jam which was not. 

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Virtueller-Stau-auf-Google-Maps-als-Kunstwerk-4651651.html

The guy was carting them around, with them all switched on?!?   

That's my understanding, yes.

[Mr. Scram]

Yeah, and guess how they do that? By geolocation of everyone's phone and using GPS speed estimates. Unfortunately, the privacy conscious option of scanners is quickly becoming useless as police/fire/EMS are largely moving to encrypted digital radio around cities. Rural departments will hold out a lot longer I'm sure.

GPS isn't needed in general. The signal strength of nearby mobile phone and wifi networks and Bluetooth devices is plenty and even allows indoor location. It's no coincidence Google gathers network data of this nature through almost every Android phone.

[mnementh]

We have this thing on our phones nowadays... it's called Google Maps. Live traffic overlay that actually draws you a picture of the mayhem. 

mnem
*agitating-ily*

A few days ago, there was this article in the Heise newsticker (German IT magazine) about a guy with a "Bollerwagen" (handcart) loaded with 99 cheap mobile phones with GPS. Google maps reported then a traffic jam which was not. 

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Virtueller-Stau-auf-Google-Maps-als-Kunstwerk-4651651.html

The guy was carting them around, with them all switched on?!?   

That's my understanding, yes.

Yeah, it was a deliberate "performance art" to demonstrate just how much influence the virtual world and Google in particular have over our real lives minute-to-minute. I wonder if the local government intends to press charges of some sort.

mnem
 

[Specmaster]

Yeah it’s not like it’s us who are the traitors really is it? 

Nope. Just your brilliant leaders. 

mnem
(Attachment Link)
       "Evil knows evil."

correct, just yours, perhaps we send Johnson and Trump off to an uninhabited island and let them get on with it.

*Sigh*

If it were only that simple... we both know those bloated gasbags are only lightning-rods to distract the public eye from the real evil being done. In our case, it's treasonous Nosferaturtle Mitch McConnell and his Soulless Minions of Orthodoxy that have been systematically dismantling the Constitution for 30 years; they're the Left Hand of Darkness doing the dirty work of those who own Chump, and Cheney before him, and Bush senior before him.

At this point they've gotten so arrogant... the evildoing so blatant... that ONLY something so trollishly farcical as Chump in the White House could possibly serve as a distraction.

He's like a burning bag of dogshit somebody put on your front porch to get you out of the house so they can lock the doors behind you and bulldoze it to make a parking lot.

I'm sure you have your own similar nest of undead bloodsuckers working Parliament and The House in the same way; it's not like this is even the first time this scenrio has played out in recent history. Events are unfolding here and on the world stage that mirror the events that led up to our Great Depression and the collapse of the American Economy in the 1920s; we all know how that affected the world economy in the 30s & 40s. When your biggest customer stops having money to buy, it's almost as disruptive as was our Industrial Revolution. 

mnem
I just wish I could've gotten my kids a little further away from ground zero... 

Once again you hit the nail on the head and if anyone thinks that there is not a Russian connection, think again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Elliott_(political_strategist)

[Specmaster]

We have this thing on our phones nowadays... it's called Google Maps. Live traffic overlay that actually draws you a picture of the mayhem. 

mnem
*agitating-ily*

A few days ago, there was this article in the Heise newsticker (German IT magazine) about a guy with a "Bollerwagen" (handcart) loaded with 99 cheap mobile phones with GPS. Google maps reported then a traffic jam which was not. 

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Virtueller-Stau-auf-Google-Maps-als-Kunstwerk-4651651.html

The guy was carting them around, with them all switched on?!?   

That's my understanding, yes.

Yeah, it was a deliberate "performance art" to demonstrate just how much influence the virtual world and Google in particular have over our real lives minute-to-minute. I wonder if the local government intends to press charges of some sort.

mnem
 

The same is being done inside shops, they can map your movements throughout a store and can show what you were actually looking at as well so that they select the right type of product to bring people into their stores and also plan their stores layouts in order to position impulse buys in the areas that attract the most footfall 

[mnementh]

(SNIP)   He's like a burning bag of dogshit somebody put on your front porch to get you out of the house so they can lock the doors behind you and bulldoze it to make a parking lot.

I'm sure you have your own similar nest of undead bloodsuckers working Parliament and The House in the same way; it's not like this is even the first time this scenrio has played out in recent history. Events are unfolding here and on the world stage that mirror the events that led up to our Great Depression and the collapse of the American Economy in the 1920s; we all know how that affected the world economy in the 30s & 40s. When your biggest customer stops having money to buy, it's almost as disruptive as was our Industrial Revolution. 

mnem
I just wish I could've gotten my kids a little further away from ground zero... 

Once again you hit the nail on the head and if anyone thinks that there is not a Russian connection, think again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Elliott_(political_strategist)

Yeah, over here it was a case of the perfect storm of bullshit; those behind our corrupt electoral system were desperate for someone other than themselves to hang the last 3 decades of tampered elections on when along comes confirmed KGB asset Donald Chump trying to buy the presidency again with help from butt-buddy Putin.

They couldn't have asked for a better scapegoat. 

mnem
"What luck; fascism you can vote for."

[Specmaster]

@specmaster: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/25084.pdf

Thats the type but these are infact 2mm and mine are 1mm (1mm drill just fits them) but I suppose at a pinch I could get away with 2mm sockets, the problem with these ones is that the require a 2.7mm hole for them to be press fitted into, I have 4.5mm holes on my panel and the sockets have a locknut

[Mr. Scram]

The same is being done inside shops, they can map your movements throughout a store and can show what you were actually looking at as well so that they select the right type of product to bring people into their stores and also plan their stores layouts in order to position impulse buys in the areas that attract the most footfall 

That's why you don't want to have Bluetooth and wifi on all the time. Both are used for this.

[bd139]

@specmaster: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/25084.pdf

Thats the type but these are infact 2mm and mine are 1mm (1mm drill just fits them) but I suppose at a pinch I could get away with 2mm sockets, the problem with these ones is that the require a 2.7mm hole for them to be press fitted into, I have 4.5mm holes on my panel and the sockets have a locknut

Ahh good luck with that one. 

The same is being done inside shops, they can map your movements throughout a store and can show what you were actually looking at as well so that they select the right type of product to bring people into their stores and also plan their stores layouts in order to position impulse buys in the areas that attract the most footfall 

That's why you don't want to have Bluetooth and wifi on all the time. Both are used for this.

Best thing is stop going in shops. At least amazon are up front about this shit.

[mnementh]

@specmaster: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/25084.pdf

Thats the type but these are infact 2mm and mine are 1mm (1mm drill just fits them) but I suppose at a pinch I could get away with 2mm sockets, the problem with these ones is that the require a 2.7mm hole for them to be press fitted into, I have 4.5mm holes on my panel and the sockets have a locknut

It looks to me like the socket itself is 1mm, but the solder terminal is 1.8mm. OD of the collar appears to be 6.5mm, and these type of socket typically use a push-nut/wafer-nut for retention. Try zooming in on the pdf and I think you'll see. A little epoxy on the inside face of the panel once you have the thing located properly and I think you'd be good to go.

mnem
 

[Mr. Scram]

Ahh good luck with that one. 

Best thing is stop going in shops. At least amazon are up front about this shit.

Just ditch the smartphone and a lot of issues are solved. Ditch the mobile phone entirely for a better result.

[mnementh]

The same is being done inside shops, they can map your movements throughout a store and can show what you were actually looking at as well so that they select the right type of product to bring people into their stores and also plan their stores layouts in order to position impulse buys in the areas that attract the most footfall 

That's why you don't want to have Bluetooth and wifi on all the time. Both are used for this.

Best thing is stop going in shops. At least amazon are up front about this shit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases

And let's not forget this golden nugget of the information age...

mnem
Even paranoids have enemies.

[Specmaster]

@specmaster: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/25084.pdf

Thats the type but these are infact 2mm and mine are 1mm (1mm drill just fits them) but I suppose at a pinch I could get away with 2mm sockets, the problem with these ones is that the require a 2.7mm hole for them to be press fitted into, I have 4.5mm holes on my panel and the sockets have a locknut

Ahh good luck with that one. 

The same is being done inside shops, they can map your movements throughout a store and can show what you were actually looking at as well so that they select the right type of product to bring people into their stores and also plan their stores layouts in order to position impulse buys in the areas that attract the most footfall 

That's why you don't want to have Bluetooth and wifi on all the time. Both are used for this.

Best thing is stop going in shops. At least amazon are up front about this shit.

OOPs, sorry these are 1mm sockets, I was wrong when I said that they were 2mm  But the hole size is too small alas.

[Specmaster]

@specmaster: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/25084.pdf

Thats the type but these are infact 2mm and mine are 1mm (1mm drill just fits them) but I suppose at a pinch I could get away with 2mm sockets, the problem with these ones is that the require a 2.7mm hole for them to be press fitted into, I have 4.5mm holes on my panel and the sockets have a locknut

It looks to me like the socket itself is 1mm, but the solder terminal is 1.8mm. OD of the collar appears to be 6.5mm, and these type of socket typically use a push-nut/wafer-nut for retention. Try zooming in on the pdf and I think you'll see. A little epoxy on the inside face of the panel once you have the thing located properly and I think you'd be good to go.

mnem
 

Yeah, I've already zoomed right in and I really don't think that there is a locknut there, it gives the hole dia as being 2.7mm and a max of 3mm and the text does say the socket is pressed fit into pre-drilled holes. I suppose I could use some hot snot in and around the socket behind the panel to hold them in place. 

[mnementh]

Scheiss... I read that .pdf wrong. The collar diameter of the 1-EB1 socket/insulator is 4mm and depth is 6.5mm.   AND, as you surmised, they ARE designed for press-fit into molded or drilled plastic panels. The installation mandrels are on page 171 below. 

EDIT: Still could make them work by adding stepped washers (3D printed maybe... ) on the front and wafer-nuts sourced elsewhere, but I'd definitely save that as a last option; lots of assache going down that path. 

Here's the assembly instructions for the 1-EB1 socket: https://ec.staubli.com/AcroFiles/MA/TM_MA102_(de-en).pdf


Here's their Test Accessories catalog in English showing the 1-EB1 socket: https://ec.staubli.com/AcroFiles/Catalogues/TM_TM-Main-11014124_(en)_hi.pdf

And here's their Miniature Connectors Catalog in English: https://ec.staubli.com/AcroFiles/Catalogues/IS_Min-Main-11014049_(en)_hi.pdf

Lots of connector-ey goodness there in those two documents. 

mnem
Epoxy will hide a multitude of sins.

[bd139]

Ahh good luck with that one. 

Best thing is stop going in shops. At least amazon are up front about this shit.

Just ditch the smartphone and a lot of issues are solved. Ditch the mobile phone entirely for a better result.

I’m not going back to bashing rocks together now

[Specmaster]

Scheiss... I read that .pdf wrong. The collar diameter of the 1-EB1 socket/insulator is 4mm and depth is 6.5mm.   AND, as you surmised, they ARE designed for press-fit into molded or drilled plastic panels. The installation mandrels are on page 171 below. 

Still could make them work by adding stepped washers (3D printed maybe... ) on the front and wafer-nuts sourced elsewhere, but I'd definitely save that as a last option; lots of assache going down that path. 

Here's the assembly instructions for the 1-EB1 socket: https://ec.staubli.com/AcroFiles/MA/TM_MA102_(de-en).pdf


Here's their Test Accessories catalog in English showing the 1-EB1 socket: https://ec.staubli.com/AcroFiles/Catalogues/TM_TM-Main-11014124_(en)_hi.pdf

And here's their Miniature Connectors Catalog in English: https://ec.staubli.com/AcroFiles/Catalogues/IS_Min-Main-11014049_(en)_hi.pdf

Lots of connector-ey goodness there in those two documents. 

mnem
Epoxy will hide a multitude of sins.

Haha, I think the cold is getting to you, I think the depth of the collar is 4mm and the dia is 6.5mm, which would give a flange fix of just 1mm with a further 1mm to be filled with hot glue or epoxy, not easy to get proper alignment but not totally impossible to get a passable fit?