Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[WastelandTek]

Hope you appreciate her! 

oh yeah

[SilverSolder]

You mean: Like asking a bunch of TEA members, if they are interested in buying this palette full of test gear for USD 50.-   

I'd be saved by the shipping costs, in that circumstance...

I see so much nice gear from Fluke and Keithley etc at nice prices, then I look at the shipping costs from the US and I go away and cry inside a little...

You just take a van across the Channel to pick it up!  (assuming this is permissible in the new free Britain of course)

In 2021 there will be extra car insurance, customs duty, and a lot more red tape paperwork. Didn't see that on the side of a bus.

Don't worry - I'm sure that Madge, 85, in Chipping Norton, knew what she was doing when she voted leave!

[bd139]

Hope the bitch breaks a hip 

[Cerebus]

2 Zweikanalverstärkereinschübe Tektronix 7A18;

Verdammt Deutsch Mammutwörter!

C'mon Germany, would a few spaces really hurt?

[BU508A]

2 Zweikanalverstärkereinschübe Tektronix 7A18;

Verdammt Deutsch Mammutwörter!

C'mon Germany, would a few spaces really hurt?

"Verdammte deutsche Mammutwörter!"



Two channel amplifier plug-in modules

Edit:

Rhabarberbarbara (with english transcription/translation):

https://www.facebook.com/AuthenticGermanLearning/posts/545203162332862/

[bd139]

My internal tokenizer is the biggest problem I have with German. I tokenize it like this:

 Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

Anal just pops right out! 

Edit: btw today's word of fail: "devops". Definition: giving incompetent software developers control over infrastructure they don't understand to save coin and look trendy. Example: "What's a level 2 switch?" "that's layer 2" "what's that?" "it's like a router - you know the OSI model right?" "what's that" (this is the guy who has the most customised PS1 I have ever seen)

[BU508A]

My internal tokenizer is the biggest problem I have with German. I tokenize it like this:

 Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

Anal just pops right out! 

Edit: btw today's word of fail: "devops". Definition: giving incompetent software developers control over infrastructure they don't understand to save coin and look trendy. Example: "What's a level 2 switch?" "that's layer 2" "what's that?" "it's like a router - you know the OSI model right?" "what's that" (this is the guy who has the most customised PS1 I have ever seen)

It is similar to my "internal tokenizer". My advantage is: it is much higher trained for the patterns of german words. That's why, when Germans reading such huge words (known as "compounds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_(linguistics) ), they easily spot the correct words in the compund and grasp their meaning.

[Wolfgang]

2 Zweikanalverstärkereinschübe Tektronix 7A18;

Verdammt Deutsch Mammutwörter!

C'mon Germany, would a few spaces really hurt?

To save space and still keep the principle, I recommend multicapitalization.

ZweiKanalVerstärkerEinschübe would be perfect to parse. 

[capt bullshot]

Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

It is similar to my "internal tokenizer". My advantage is: it is much higher trained for the patterns of german words. That's why, when Germans reading such huge words (known as "compounds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_(linguistics) ), they easily spot the correct words in the compund and grasp their meaning.

Sometimes it's just fun to tokenize such compounds wrong intentionally, and also pronounce them that wrong way giving the word a different or non-understandable meaning E.g. Schulzen-trum instead of Schul-zentrum or Urin-sekt instead of Ur-insekt ...

[capt bullshot]

ZweiKanalVerstärkerEinschübe would be perfect to parse. 

Where's the :puke: smiley?

[Cerebus]

Two channel amplifier plug-in modules

Oh I'd got there in the end, it just took too long.

Like BD139, my tokenizer is broken when it comes to German compound words. For me it's worse, because knowing some German some simple words will leap out when they're not there - so I saw rein popping out between verstärker and einschübe, probably because it's also an English word but my brain knew I was supposed to be in German so I mentally heard the German rein (pure/unmixed/neat) not the English rein (something for controlling horses, homophone of 'rain'). I'll spot pure English words too which also puts the breaks in the wrong places to spot the German word breaks. It does me 'ead in, it does.

[grizewald]

ZweiKanalVerstärkerEinschübe would be perfect to parse. 

Where's the :puke: smiley?

Here!

[mnementh]

Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

It is similar to my "internal tokenizer". My advantage is: it is much higher trained for the patterns of german words. That's why, when Germans reading such huge words (known as "compounds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_(linguistics) ), they easily spot the correct words in the compund and grasp their meaning.

Sometimes it's just fun to tokenize such compounds wrong intentionally, and also pronounce them that wrong way giving the word a different or non-understandable meaning E.g. Schulzen-trum instead of Schul-zentrum or Urin-sekt instead of Ur-insekt ...

Of course, there's a xkcd for that... 

ZweiKanalVerstärkerEinschübe would be perfect to parse. 

Where's the :puke: smiley?

This one...?     Page 1140: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/28475/ 

mnem
*impairing productivity since nineteen-mumblety-mumble*

[McBryce]

My internal tokenizer is the biggest problem I have with German. I tokenize it like this:

 Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

Anal just pops right out! 

Edit: btw today's word of fail: "devops". Definition: giving incompetent software developers control over infrastructure they don't understand to save coin and look trendy. Example: "What's a level 2 switch?" "that's layer 2" "what's that?" "it's like a router - you know the OSI model right?" "what's that" (this is the guy who has the most customised PS1 I have ever seen)

You must have serious issues with words like Analyse then? Your tokeniser comes up with "someone with eyes up their ass"?

McBryce.

[mnementh]

ANALYZE...! ANALYZE...!!!   

mnem
*faulty... must... sterilize....*

[tggzzz]

2 Zweikanalverstärkereinschübe Tektronix 7A18;

Verdammt Deutsch Mammutwörter!

C'mon Germany, would a few spaces really hurt?

Having the verb at the end complicates simultaneous translation, hence the apocryphal wail "Professor, the verb, please!". Human ability to use RPN doesn't scale beytond 4 stack levels

[tggzzz]

Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

It is similar to my "internal tokenizer". My advantage is: it is much higher trained for the patterns of german words. That's why, when Germans reading such huge words (known as "compounds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_(linguistics) ), they easily spot the correct words in the compund and grasp their meaning.

Sometimes it's just fun to tokenize such compounds wrong intentionally, and also pronounce them that wrong way giving the word a different or non-understandable meaning E.g. Schulzen-trum instead of Schul-zentrum or Urin-sekt instead of Ur-insekt ...

English has similar games, e.g. in-VALid vs INval-id.

For computer word processing word splitting, a standard test used to be "therapist"; "the-rapist" was not acceptable

[Sam Spastic]

Born in 1950.

[nfmax]

Edit: btw today's word of fail: "devops". Definition: giving incompetent software developers control over infrastructure they don't understand to save coin and look trendy. Example: "What's a level 2 switch?" "that's layer 2" "what's that?" "it's like a router - you know the OSI model right?" "what's that" (this is the guy who has the most customised PS1 I have ever seen)

Ah yes. Agile, Continuous Irritation and stuff like that

Glad to have escaped!

[nfmax]

Zweik anal verstärkerein schübe

It is similar to my "internal tokenizer". My advantage is: it is much higher trained for the patterns of german words. That's why, when Germans reading such huge words (known as "compounds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_(linguistics) ), they easily spot the correct words in the compund and grasp their meaning.

Sometimes it's just fun to tokenize such compounds wrong intentionally, and also pronounce them that wrong way giving the word a different or non-understandable meaning E.g. Schulzen-trum instead of Schul-zentrum or Urin-sekt instead of Ur-insekt ...

English has similar games, e.g. in-VALid vs INval-id.

For computer word processing word splitting, a standard test used to be "therapist"; "the-rapist" was not acceptable

English spelling is tricky at first. It can be understood though, through thorough thought.

[Mortymore]

father ----> fat-her

So, to be a father, the guy will have to fat her. 

(sorry... I tend to stretch the rope sometimes. I'm afflicted with excessive imagination.)

[mnementh]

English has similar games, e.g. in-VALid vs INval-id.  For computer word processing word splitting, a standard test used to be "therapist"; "the-rapist" was not acceptable  

Of course, it's in there.

mnem
*cue yakkety-sax music*

[nfmax]

New toy just arrived (despite the best endeavours of UPS) - Power Designs 2005A. It's not that the other 8 1/2 power supplies I have here are in some way inadequate, it's just being able to dial in a voltage and get to within a millivolt or so is cool TEA!

Must do something about the infuriatingly buzzy step-down transformer that came with it, though.

[Specmaster]

Look at this. Was in Michigan. You don't how bad I wanted to make a road trip but realized....where would I put it all?? 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/863047330818573/ 

Its sold now, so did you get it after all?

[worsthorse]

@Zucca Ender FTW!

Ok looks like I didn't blow up the NanoVNA. The SMA connector I was using had a Chinesium fracture. I ran the cal cycle on the NanoVNA and it was fine. Phew!

Well the RF amp is well and truly buggered. It's only a small signal front end amplifier but the damn thing doesn't work. It worked perfectly in LTspice and on the NanoVNA for about 2 mintues. One min it's pulling 20mA, next minute 8mA and the thing is toast. I have replaced every part and it's still damn pulling 8mA. I built the entire amp again with new parts and it's pulling 8mA fine but only 3dB of gain not 15dB. Can't figure it out. I tried tuning it with a receiver to see if it's oscillating - nothing. Probing it with scope / finger - nothing. 

It actually forward biases an LED successfully by 0.8V by the looks which is a big WTF. Unless it's oscillating at 400MHz+ or something which a PN2222A shouldn't be able to do.

Are you sure it's a PN2222A?  Just sayin'

* worsthorse wanders out of range.

Yeah that batch was legit from RS. I woke up this morning and have come to the conclusion the design sucks so I’m going to switch it out for a W7ZOI design instead.

Okay. The issues you described puzzled me, especially the "it is drawing power but not oscillating or doing anything else" bit.  When I run into that, it is almost always because some active component isn't what I think it is.  Which W7ZOI design are you going to use?