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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42375 on: November 08, 2019, 12:08:00 am »
There is one thing more...
Wait, are those two elcaps really as deformed as they look? I had seen it as optical, not mechanical distortion.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42376 on: November 08, 2019, 02:56:28 am »
Hey @med I found another meter you could stack on your ugly duckling Fluke. Even painting it blue wouldn't help   :-DD eBay auction: #401819975598

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42377 on: November 08, 2019, 03:05:03 am »
Man that one is cool!  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42378 on: November 08, 2019, 03:12:11 am »
Whoever was doing their industrial design was whacked out on something.  :-DD
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42379 on: November 08, 2019, 03:24:43 am »
I think they were "working some shit out" after getting laid off when LucasFilms closed up shop after ROTJ...  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42380 on: November 08, 2019, 04:14:02 am »
 :-DD

I think you're onto something there. Local surplus joint has a stack of thermometer/thermocouple controllers in that some case style. Assume they are largely worthless without the sensors.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42381 on: November 08, 2019, 04:15:37 am »
It is kind of like a partial circumcision and they left a little hood behind  :-DD


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I think you're onto something there. Local surplus joint has a stack of thermometer/thermocouple controllers in that some case style. Assume they are largely worthless without the sensors.

They are just Type K's from memory.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42382 on: November 08, 2019, 04:19:49 am »
That is a funky looking enclosure.  Probably looked futuristic and high tech at its introduction, but I'd say it hasn't aged well in that department.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42383 on: November 08, 2019, 05:22:47 am »
Hey @med I found another meter you could stack on your ugly duckling Fluke. Even painting it blue wouldn't help   :-DD eBay auction: #401819975598



All the nay sayers.  :P I think it's cool. :-+  It's in the same case design as my 7260A Frequency Counter.

And yes.....I would paint it blue.  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42384 on: November 08, 2019, 05:28:57 am »
  :-DD @med The Blue is like lipstick on a pig  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42385 on: November 08, 2019, 06:46:05 am »
My inner VoltNut is saying yes, but my wallet is saying where's the make offer button  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42386 on: November 08, 2019, 06:53:59 am »
Potentially ROM replacement and re calibration needed  :o Lots of possible downside without checking the error numbers.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42387 on: November 08, 2019, 09:19:51 am »
Back to TEA, why the previous owner is always a moron?
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My PITA Points:

1) the two elco caps on the top are not deformed but smaller in diameter than what they should be.
2) the big ass blue (dedicated to med) elco cap is not stripped down with a zip tie to the board
3) the relocation of the T220 is nice for thermal but I do not like the execution:
 a) no heat shrink on the T220 legs
 b) flux is like saturday night vomit out of the local bar

it's a legendary 7.5 DMM, you should work with gloves on it.
It's not a cow to milk out, you moron. I hate you.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42388 on: November 08, 2019, 09:27:29 am »
Potentially ROM replacement and re calibration needed  :o Lots of possible downside without checking the error numbers.

Potentially two work months to get it working again and $2000 more in parts/board to invest.
Oh no, it is drifting after 24h test... what I do now?
Finally after a lot of cassing it will work but the cal of that beast costs again Kdollars so you want to jump out the next window you find.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42389 on: November 08, 2019, 10:01:52 am »
Back to TEA, why the previous owner is always a moron?
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My PITA Points:

1) the two elco caps on the top are not deformed but smaller in diameter than what they should be.
2) the big ass blue (dedicated to med) elco cap is not stripped down with a zip tie to the board
3) the relocation of the T220 is nice for thermal but I do not like the execution:
 a) no heat shrink on the T220 legs
 b) flux is like saturday night vomit out of the local bar

it's a legendary 7.5 DMM, you should work with gloves on it.
It's not a cow to milk out, you moron. I hate you.

Temped to put the T220 where the R&D decided to place it.

1) The physical size is irrelevant. If they have the correct capacitance and voltage then who cares? Many manufacturers will allow for supply fluctuations by leaving space for a larger diameter capacitor if they change to an alternative part.

2) It's an axial capacitor with a soldered pin at each end. Unless this board is going to be in a high vibration environment, then there's no reason why a strap would be used.

3) Fully agree, what a messy bodge.


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42390 on: November 08, 2019, 10:22:47 am »
This calm me down...



I will follow TiN here.

Moreover I did not like his fan replacement:



replaced fan to ADDA which has a lower m³/h, so I want to go with this one:

https://www.tme.eu/de/en/details/asb0412vha-a/dc12v-fans/delta-electronics/

+2,34m³/h ,only +3,6dBA noise and -20mA current rating  :-+

For this device where the caps dies all the time I think it is the right choice.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42391 on: November 08, 2019, 12:03:30 pm »
Back to TEA, why the previous owner is always a moron?
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My PITA Points:

1) the two elco caps on the top are not deformed but smaller in diameter than what they should be.
2) the big ass blue (dedicated to med) elco cap is not stripped down with a zip tie to the board
3) the relocation of the T220 is nice for thermal but I do not like the execution:
 a) no heat shrink on the T220 legs
 b) flux is like saturday night vomit out of the local bar

it's a legendary 7.5 DMM, you should work with gloves on it.
It's not a cow to milk out, you moron. I hate you.

Temped to put the T220 where the R&D decided to place it.

Why does my name always get dragged into a situation?  :o :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42392 on: November 08, 2019, 12:08:36 pm »
It's a magnet for any discussion on fan mods or case colour  ;D
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42393 on: November 08, 2019, 12:11:23 pm »
An old gray beard with an attitude.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42394 on: November 08, 2019, 12:39:08 pm »
This calm me down...



I will follow TiN here.

Moreover I did not like his fan replacement:



replaced fan to ADDA which has a lower m³/h, so I want to go with this one:

https://www.tme.eu/de/en/details/asb0412vha-a/dc12v-fans/delta-electronics/

+2,34m³/h ,only +3,6dBA noise and -20mA current rating  :-+

For this device where the caps dies all the time I think it is the right choice.

Nice work. I can't sleep at night knowing things like that are left hiding in things!
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42395 on: November 08, 2019, 12:42:19 pm »
(Attachment Link)   :-DD @med The Blue is like lipstick on a pig  :-DD


At least painted Pigs can become useful when made into Bacon unlike the fugly Fluke ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42396 on: November 08, 2019, 12:57:07 pm »
Med,
See it as a compliment, at least that's what is my impression.
At least it creates some uniformity, just as some try with 3D printing or
audio/vidio/pc equipment.

By the way, I am impressed with the quality of your 2465's focus control.
Did you spend speccific efforts on this to improve it?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42397 on: November 08, 2019, 01:05:25 pm »
Med,
See it as a compliment, at least that's what is my impression.
At least it creates some uniformity, just as some try with 3D printing or
audio/vidio/pc equipment.

By the way, I am impressed with the quality of your 2465's focus control.
Did you spend speccific efforts on this to improve it?

Frans

I do see it as a compliment. These clowns are just jealous.  :P :P :P :P :-DD

I haven't done anything to either of my 2465's except re-cap the PSU's and one had it's fan replaced (don't ask  :-DD). When the 20MHz bandwidth limit is engaged the traces are pretty sharp.....but not bad either at full bandwidth.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42398 on: November 08, 2019, 01:39:26 pm »
the "distorted sine"

 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #42399 on: November 08, 2019, 01:41:54 pm »
I bet it's a shaped triangle wave and the triangle source is generating the distortion on switching between source/sink. Could even be power supply issues. Caps not low enough impedance.
 


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