Yes I fully admit that now. For reference I installed Fusion 360 on this and it is considerably less of a piece of shit now. There you go, hat for dinner. Tasty hat ![Laughing :-DD](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gif)
Also spent a good hour today playing Unreal Tournament pre-alpha. I spent at least a year of my life in UT99 in Facing Worlds. Now I desire a better keyboard and mouse. Bloody rabbit holes.
I'm refusing to go down the water cooling route though. I CBA with that shit
. This thing is almost 100% silent even flat out and CPU doesn't get above 65oC. To quote Dave: "winner winner chicken dinner".
Still hunting for HP goodies though ![Laughing :-DD](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gif)
Edit: Upgrade plan is in flight already:
1. November 2019 - decent KB and mouse TBD
2. Jan 2020 - Decent sound card (M-Audio Air series - I have a reason for this
)
3. Mar 2020 - Another 16Gb of RAM
4. May 2020 - Another 22" screen (rejigging my bench/living room the month before)
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Two humble suggestions:
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1) Your standards for “absolutely silent” are ALSO “dark ages”.
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I tried the stock cooler, and it is almost as loud as the stock one from my 1055T (Which is now on my FX-8350, since they didn’t change a FUKKIN’ THING about the AM3 stock cooler in the decade since my 1055T was new). If your case will support a 120mmx240mm rad, a sealed-system AIO from Corsair, etc is definitely the way to go. They’re as cheap as $70 from reputable brands now and on mine, the switching whistle from the VRM is actually louder until ALL the fans start to ramp up under load. I specifically chose my case for top-rad, and it was only $40.
2) Before you bump up the RAM, get into a better video card. RX-580 8GB at least; this is pretty much entry-level minimum-spec for anything more than grandma’s eMachine. ANYTHING that RENDERS nowadays... 2D, 3D, CAD, video editing, gaming... first tries to push as much of the rendering compute load off onto the GPU; even for non-gamers, a fair amount of GPU power really is necessary because that is how ALL personal computing is trending.
The $30-50 2-4GB “system-builder” or “commodity” graphics cards out there... as well as many costing much more... are literally e-Waste BEFORE you take them out of the box. They ONLY exist because so many people out there don’t know how non-linear the value is on these cards. Sure, you’re you’re “only” paying $30-50; but you’re getting 1-5% of the performance of something civilized.
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This is the trickle-down effect... the stuff that was for “crazy gamers and power-users” a year or three ago becomes today’s base-level standard equipment, and everything from OS to apps expands to take advantage of that expanded capacity. The march of progress, buddy.
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mnem
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