Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[tautech]

If your saying that median lethal dose for a tree is less hazardous to humans than table salt

Nope, they don't use humans in LD trials.

[Zucca]

https://backyardables.com/how-to-kill-a-tree-without-anyone-knowing/

https://backyardables.com/

[mnementh]

@specmaster: Yeah that's what I was told. The ground is cracked badly around it and I got a tree surgeon to have a look at it but he said if he cut all the branches over my side of the property then the tree would go over and land in the road so he couldn't do it. He said my option was to murder it and then phone the council and tell them it was dead as they'd have to take it down then. I asked him how and he refused to answer 

Dead becomes a public nuisance and injury risk....then the council will remove it. Dead = Gone.

If this is the case... isn't the tree ALREADY BOTH a public nuisance and an injury risk? All it might take is one good storm to knock it down onto one of your homes and/or a street full of traffic/pedestrians.

You should take this statement from your tree surgeon to the council and demand they deal with it; the tree is ALREADY a nuisance/safety hazard to you and the neighbor who refuses to deal with it.

mnem

[worsthorse]

ring the tree. that is, remove a band of the bark.  almost always works. doesn’t require chemicals...

[mnementh]

LD50 is less than common salt.

Ummm... I know what these terms all mean, but strung together this way they don't exactly form a complete sentence. 

mnem
 

If you're saying that median lethal dose for a tree is less hazardous to humans than table salt...

Nope, they don't use humans in LD trials.

Then were you trying to say with that half a fucking sentence?  Don't fuck with my head like that, man!  It is TOO fucking early for that shit!!!

mnem

[tautech]

Ring baking, nope too visible.
Copper Sulphate into the root system, yep but it might take a bit to properly poison the ground in order to kill the tree.

True. But taking some time is perhaps a good thing. Imho it makes it a bit harder to find out the responsible person.   

What responsible person ? It died of old age ! 

[mnementh]

*looking around for a responsible person*

Ummm...

mnem

[worsthorse]

@tggzzz: I like my readings to be a little unstable. I do my best work that way.

I don't disagree; I like to see the bottom digit changing by one or two counts.

well it certainly lets you know your meter is doing something, right? 

[tautech]

LD50 is less than common salt.

Ummm... I know what these terms all mean, but strung together this way they don't exactly form a complete sentence. 

mnem
 

If you're saying that median lethal dose for a tree is less hazardous to humans than table salt...

Nope, they don't use humans in LD trials.

Then were you trying to say with that half a fucking sentence?   Don't fuck with my head like that, man!  It is TOO fucking early for that shit!!!

mnem

Go study MSDS and toxicity lab tests and tell me how frequently any chemical needs be tested to be sure it meets its spec, NDA requirement and user safety.
Here, very few years while it's still available for sale.

Now, no substance is safe if used outside it's label recommendations and that's what its guidance is for...to protect us from ourselves.

You might appear to have a different spin on toxicities and in many cases you'd be right as many chemicals that were once used freely and in some cases leglistrated to be used are now banned as science has proven them to be dangerous to human health. Those that have stood the test of time like Glyphosate since the '80's are a shit load less toxic than some would have us believe.

[BU508A]

*looking around for a responsible person*

*hiding behind the tree*

Oh! Yes!
The tree is gone ...     

[med6753]

Am I in the right forum? I thought this was TEA, not tree assassination.   

Anywho.....got parts coming today to restore the Heath V-7A. Also ordered an assortment of those Bourns filter chokes recommended by bd139 (the tree killer  ) to experiment with reducing the ripple on the Heath OL-1 B+ supply.   

[bd139]

Mwuhahaha. Thanks all for the tree tips. Approach decided. I'll post back in 3 months with success or failure.

Good luck with the V7 meter. 

I was hoping for HP 1740A parts today. Some bridge rectifiers arrived but that was about it

[med6753]

Mwuhahaha. Thanks all for the tree tips. Approach decided. I'll post back in 3 months with success or failure.

Good luck with the V7 meter. 

I was hoping for HP 1740A parts today. Some bridge rectifiers arrived but that was about it

I have an idea...how about we send you a few beavers? 

"Eat a beaver, save a tree" 

[Mr. Scram]

I have an idea...how about we send you a few beavers? 

"Eat a beaver, save a tree" 

As long as it's not a red beaver that should be fine.

[med6753]

I have an idea...how about we send you a few beavers? 

"Eat a beaver, save a tree" 

As long as it's not a red beaver that should be fine.

LMAO. Good call....points for you! 

[BU508A]

What is a "red beaver"? 

[med6753]

What is a "red beaver"? 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beaver

[tggzzz]

Back in the distant past I did and integration with HP CoCreate work manager and ME10 (aka Creo now). That was literally like dipping your balls in acid and then salt in quick succession all day. The thing was backed with Oracle on an HP N-class. The whole platform was one of HP's lesser known disasters.

I take it you have never tried any of the Mental Mentor Graphics CAD tools. Or any of the IBM Rational products, which tend to be the most fragile way of solving your problems.

[tggzzz]

Random question here out of the blue an definitely off topic but this is the sort of obscure knowledge people on here know.

How can I kill a large tree discretely?  Local council won't deal with an overhanging tree so I'm going to plan B which is to murder the fucking thing myself.

Oooh, a "dispute with a neighbour" about trees. Good luck getting that resolved quickly and/or cleanly.

Simply remove anything overhanging your boundary; anything else becomes their problem.

Given that you have contacted the council, there is a paper trail leading to you. I doubt anything can be "discrete"; the most you could hope for is "not proven".

If you have ever seen a tree stump, you will be aware that chemicals have to be added to make sure it doesn't resurrect itself. Find out what they are, and inject through tiny holes.

[worsthorse]

Am I in the right forum? I thought this was TEA, not tree assassination.   

Anywho.....got parts coming today to restore the Heath V-7A. Also ordered an assortment of those Bourns filter chokes recommended by bd139 (the tree killer  ) to experiment with reducing the ripple on the Heath OL-1 B+ supply.   

If we analyzed the content of this thread over the last six months, would the non-TEA posts would make up a significant portion majority of the posts. 

My third Tek logic analyzer arrives today.This is the one I bought to get the included probes because the crazy people listing probes on ebay wanted four times as much for a probe alone as I paid to get an analyzer with them included.

I wonder if I more logic analyzers than anyone else on the forum now. If not, maybe I have a new quest. 

[tggzzz]

If we analyzed the content of this thread over the last six months, would the non-TEA posts would make up a significant portion majority of the posts. 

I don't think it is that bad, yet. But it is moving in that direction.

[worsthorse]

If we analyzed the content of this thread over the last six months, would the non-TEA posts would make up a significant portion majority of the posts. 

I don't think it is that bad, yet. But it is moving in that direction.

I meant that to be a question. Hit the wrong key.   

[med6753]

My third Tek logic analyzer arrives today.This is the one I bought to get the included probes because the crazy people listing probes on ebay wanted four times as much for a probe alone as I paid to get an analyzer with them included.

I wonder if I more logic analyzers than anyone else on the forum now. If not, maybe I have a new quest. 

My 2465 DMS has the 17 bit word recognizer option and I haven't got a clue on how it works or how to use it.  Not that I do much logic analysis anyway.

[notfaded1]

Back in the distant past I did and integration with HP CoCreate work manager and ME10 (aka Creo now). That was literally like dipping your balls in acid and then salt in quick succession all day. The thing was backed with Oracle on an HP N-class. The whole platform was one of HP's lesser known disasters.

I take it you have never tried any of the Mental Mentor Graphics CAD tools. Or any of the IBM Rational products, which tend to be the most fragile way of solving your problems.

Here! Here! Don't get me started on both of those... we use Mentor Graphics CAD tools and IBM Rational CC, CQ, and all the new ones from IBM too!!!  To make things even worse our stuff is all multisited as well.  A lot of the new more "devops" stuff seems pretty good ie. gitlab, jira, confluence, mattermost, jenkins, etc.  We support them all.

Best Regards,

Bill

[worsthorse]

My third Tek logic analyzer arrives today.This is the one I bought to get the included probes because the crazy people listing probes on ebay wanted four times as much for a probe alone as I paid to get an analyzer with them included.

I wonder if I more logic analyzers than anyone else on the forum now. If not, maybe I have a new quest. 

My 2465 DMS has the 17 bit word recognizer option and I haven't got a clue on how it works or how to use it.  Not that I do much logic analysis anyway.

The only reason I do know how to use them? My first engineering gig was a workstation start up, during which I spend hundreds of hours look at LA screens, trying to figure out what the hell whatever bit slice processor I was working on was doing.  They are fun to play with now on microcontrollers and the like, but play is the word.