Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[bd139]

Disable network location awareness, Force the interfaces to private network, make sure file and printer sharing is enabled, disable IPv6 bindings on the interfaces. Usually works then

[mnementh]

2K was nothing more than a (really ugly) theme pack on '98 released solely to force Internet Exploder down people's throats; '98 itself was a bugfix release of '95. XP was the first version of Windoze with a proper filesystem and the last version where you, the owner, actually had control and ownership of your PC. Every version since has essentially been sandboxed /rooted AGAINST the owner/user for M$'s own purposes.

I think you're mistaking Windows 2000 for Windows Me. 2000 was the successor to NT 4.0.

As for me, I use any Windows only when there's no alternative. It's now Win10 and they still don't have a working focus-follows-mouse. Or let me decide the windows stacking. These make it mostly unbearable for me. Even at work I was able to get allowance for using a Linux box.

You are absolutely right... brain-fart. I kindof skipped the 2K era; I'd just moved to Texas and I was working as a mechanic. Only PCs I used back then were a '98 box at home and another for OBDII/ALLDATA at work.

Does this forum have a disproportionate amount of Windows haters or are they simply noisier?

Given the market share, it's probably just normal.

I can take issue with every operating system I use or have used. So, no need for love or hate. Just pick your poison, then grin and bear it.

Not a hater... if it weren't for the brain-sucking ball of concentrated crazy that is the modern PC and Windoze, I'd be out of a job. 


mnem
*Dumber than advertised*

[bd139]

That last comment is spot on the mark. For me it either pays the bills because it’s shit and needs fixing or it’s shit and I’m moving everything to something better 

[Ero-Shan]

I'm late, as usual. All that Tek 465 praise in this thread happened a long time ago, but it remined me. And since I felt like I needed some kind of challenge, I crawled to my attic's darkest place and got out my 464.

Trying to be a nice forum member, this time I started a repair thread where it belongs: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/tek-model-464-repair/

Not much interesting yet, but at least its started.

[mnementh]

Not a hater... if it weren't for the brain-sucking ball of concentrated crazy that is the modern PC and Windoze, I'd be out of a job. 


mnem
*Dumber than advertised*

That last comment is spot on the mark. For me it either pays the bills because it’s shit and needs fixing or it’s shit and I’m moving everything to something better 

Yes, I certainly cannot deny being "Dumber than Advertised". 


mnem
All the news that fits.

[bd139]

Doh I meant second from last 

[mnementh]

Dude, it's all good. 

If that's the worst thing that happens to me today, it's been a great day! 


mnem
*Out standing in my field*

[bd139]

Haha know that feeling 

By the way fuck tomorrow. Peaking at 36 oC here in London (96 oF). This is nearly record temperature here of 38.5 oC(100.5 oF). And I’m literally a mile from ground zero where it happened last time in 2003. No TEA tomorrow.

[Specmaster]

Other than the drinking (TEA) variety which is an absolute essential in this bloody heat, drinking many litres a day at the moment, just to replace what is sweated out. May well sit in the car all day with the aircon on full 

[bd139]

I would. Fortunately my house is 1950’s concrete so it stays relatively cool inside during the day. I’m staying put. Also sleeping on the sofa with my own fan up my arse because SWMBO is too bloody hot helps.

[Specmaster]

I would. Fortunately my house is 1950’s concrete so it stays relatively cool inside during the day. I’m staying put. Also sleeping on the sofa with my own fan up my arse because SWMBO is too bloody hot helps.

Ours is 1990s and a sweat box, someone suggested opening the loft hatch to let the hot air up onto the roof, not sure if it's helped or not.

[bd139]

I don’t think you can win with them. I couldn’t when we lived in one anyway.

Been looking at air con today and for our place to get three rooms ducted (living room, two bedrooms) is about £3k. Seriously considering it. Either that or buy a tentacle monster for £2k

[bitseeker]

Let me know if you need any board parts. I've still got the guts of a 54602 floating around.

Will do. Thanks! I'm hoping it's just some of the typical dried out caps that are characteristic of the display going squash.

Does this forum have a disproportionate amount of Windows haters or are they simply noisier?

Given the market share, it's probably just normal.

I can take issue with every operating system I use or have used. So, no need for love or hate. Just pick your poison, then grin and bear it.

Not a hater... if it weren't for the brain-sucking ball of concentrated crazy that is the modern PC and Windoze, I'd be out of a job. 

Similarly, the fact that keeping computers running smoothly still requires expertise, despite all the "great improvements," has made me money for over three decades, whether at my primary job or on the side. I've had clients comment, in a somewhat exasperated tone, "How are normal people supposed to deal with this?"

[tautech]

Nope. Tek TDS210. Oooold 60MHz DSO. Needs new BNC and CCFL. I have the latter already from when I bought a three pack when I did the screen on my Korg Triton and the BNC is only £4. They get dicky on these units. I remember fixing one back when they came out because Tek wanted £500 at the time to even look at it because it was an out of warranty repair.

However they are still very much in demand. I have sold it already outside of ebay for more than twice what I just paid ... there is a market for people who don't trust chinese stuff (I don't really if I'm honest), don't want to pay for a Rigol and/or do want the Tek interface.

Are you sure it isn't be HV backlight source ?
I had one and the later model TDS1002 that the C in the RC for the BL HV primary had gone AWOL into the pF range and just replacing the MLCC bought her back to life.
Yes the BNC's on 210's are crap but are worthy improvement is to bare the ground plane on either side and solder a copper strap up and over to make them much more robust.
Good luck with it.

[tautech]

It's possible it was internal. It wasn't shown working and some of those had a safety recall due to the earth on the board burning up if you got line voltage on the BNC shells.

To note mine is showing as self test passed.

You can check the SN# on the Tek website to see if it was recalled or the later version where they beefed up the ground trace so it didn't fuse, instead blowing the mains supply fuse/breaker.

[xrunner]

"How are normal people supposed to deal with this?"

Find abnormal friends like you and me. 

[bitseeker]

LOL! Yes, exactly.

[mnementh]

Does this forum have a disproportionate amount of Windows haters or are they simply noisier?

Given the market share, it's probably just normal.

I can take issue with every operating system I use or have used. So, no need for love or hate. Just pick your poison, then grin and bear it.

Not a hater... if it weren't for the brain-sucking ball of concentrated crazy that is the modern PC and Windoze, I'd be out of a job. 

Similarly, the fact that keeping computers running smoothly still requires expertise, despite all the "great improvements," has made me money for over three decades, whether at my primary job or on the side. I've had clients comment, in a somewhat exasperated tone, "How are normal people supposed to deal with this?"

I'm sorry, I know you were saying something here... but I couldn't hear you over the sound of "CHA-CHINNNG!!!" 

Seriously... in this world, how can we really define "normal"? As long as "normal people" keep lining up like cattle to work for and be owned by corporations, they are as responsible as any other element of our fucked-up society. As long as we continue to not vote with our dollars for more human EVERYTHING, how can we expect our technology to be anything but an engine driving that inhumanity?

Technology is not the enemy; it is not the devil, and it is not the machine we need to fight here. The enemy, the demon we all need to fight and destroy is the very concept of corporatism, which by-definition soulless monster exists solely to collect money unto itself, and to insulate those who make heinous decisions in the name of profit from the consequences of their actions. THAT is the machine which great minds like Huxley, Orwell, Eisenhauer and even Chaplin warned us of in no uncertain terms... and which we as a species still have yet to so much as acknowledge, much less raise arms against.

The functional model of Corporatism as practiced in a capitalist world is that of a virus... which grows and consumes everything in its path without regard to whether it is killing its host, or even killing itself.  It is blind and stupid and self-destructive in exactly the same way, and must be cauterized, excised, burned out if we, its host, are to survive.

I give us about a 1 in 100 chance; and I think that's being optimistic.


mnem
"Zathras lives a sad life... will probably die a sad death. But ahhh... there is symmetry." Zathras ~ Babylon 5

[bitseeker]

Yeah, just look at how far down that sink hole eBay's user experience has gone. Just when you think it couldn't get any worse, it does! If it makes them more money, even the most ridiculous UX change is worthwhile.

Anyway, I don't want to go too far off the rails in the TEA thread.

[bd139]

Nope. Tek TDS210. Oooold 60MHz DSO. Needs new BNC and CCFL. I have the latter already from when I bought a three pack when I did the screen on my Korg Triton and the BNC is only £4. They get dicky on these units. I remember fixing one back when they came out because Tek wanted £500 at the time to even look at it because it was an out of warranty repair.

However they are still very much in demand. I have sold it already outside of ebay for more than twice what I just paid ... there is a market for people who don't trust chinese stuff (I don't really if I'm honest), don't want to pay for a Rigol and/or do want the Tek interface.

Are you sure it isn't be HV backlight source ?
I had one and the later model TDS1002 that the C in the RC for the BL HV primary had gone AWOL into the pF range and just replacing the MLCC bought her back to life.
Yes the BNC's on 210's are crap but are worthy improvement is to bare the ground plane on either side and solder a copper strap up and over to make them much more robust.
Good luck with it.

It’s working just murky so figured the tube. Will check both.

It's possible it was internal. It wasn't shown working and some of those had a safety recall due to the earth on the board burning up if you got line voltage on the BNC shells.

To note mine is showing as self test passed.

You can check the SN# on the Tek website to see if it was recalled or the later version where they beefed up the ground trace so it didn't fuse, instead blowing the mains supply fuse/breaker.

Already done that. This one wasn’t recalled 

[BravoV]

Guys, looking at below attached photos, Tek probes included and cosmetic conditions as in photos, assume its working fine, how much do you appreciate this Tek 2235 ? Local pickup.

[Specmaster]

Local pickup from where precisely?

[BravoV]

Local pickup from where precisely?

Maybe about 1 hour drive for me, but many thousands of kilometers from your Great Britain island and across few continents. 

[Specmaster]

So where are you located then?

[med6753]

Guys, looking at below attached photos, Tek probes included and cosmetic conditions as in photos, assume its working fine, how much do you appreciate this Tek 2235 ? Local pickup.

Other than it looking a little dirty I'd say go for it. I certainly would.