@mnemneth: The newer panels are orders of magnitude better than anything that was being recycled a few years back. However these aren’t usually refurbed here. There’s a massive surplus of monitors due to stupid purchasing in IT teams. NHS are particularly bad at this. One trust had about 600 boxes new monitors go to a reseller because when you buy in volume you are buying per seat. So there are two tiers: discards and new out of box. Discards go straight in WEEE and are dismantled and recycled. It’s cheaper to recycle those than sell them off. They never see the market. The rest get shipped in pallets to resellers who discard any transit damaged units. What turns up is usually a new unit that has been sitting in stores for 3 years. They fire it up and sell as used because there’s no packaging. If I get two years out of a monitor I’m happy. For £1.58/month ![Smiley :)](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
Same with servers. The DL380g8 I just bought hasn’t even been fired up.
tl;dr: in EU, WEEE and IT purchasing killed off the tail end refurb market.
Anyway verdict out it’s arriving around 09:45-10:45 ![Smiley :)](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
@specmaster: that cap would go with a big boom. It’s about 4 inches across ![Cheesy :D](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
Ahh, yeah... Those new IT overstocks are probably the ones I'm buying for $79 at Fry's and NewEgg.
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I guess over here the lack of consumer protection allows them to be sold as new even though they've been bought and sold by an end-user already. I'm just paying a $10 "Finder's fee" for them putting the things all together in one place. And the full MFR warranty.
I'm totes down widdat.
Glad you like your new to you one; I think we're arriving at similar ends, but it's got a lot to do with what you can get used over here and the poor garbage:good ratio due to our lack of consumer protection.
Re BIG BOOM!!! etc... around here somewhere I have a couple 100,000uF/30V Seimens brutes from a 90's telephone ATM router backbone. They're 70mm x 150mm each. I stacked them and used them as stiffening caps in several boom-box cars, then used them in the same capacity with a 20A Tripplite PSU for abuse-testing amps on the bench.
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Of course they're not as big as the 1F-30F stiffening caps you can buy online for car stereo nowadays; they start out around 80mm x 200mm weighing ~1.5kg. The really crazy part nowadays is the cost; you can buy a
no-name 1F/20V cap for US$20 SHIPPED and
cheap name brand 30F/24V Hybrid models for US$90 that have scary low ESR and are actually in the neighborhood of rated capacitance. Even cheaper if you're willing to scour fleaBay; you can often get name-brand a few years old for similar prices that are half-decent quality under all the plastic and bling LEDs.
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I realize these aren't appropriate to most bench power supplies as-is because CC/CV; but put 'em in series and you can get 1/2F@40v for ~US$40 and 1F@40V for ~US$50. It doesn't MATTER if they're really only good for 60-70% of rated value at THOSE numbers, and I've been very surprised at how many of my modern SMPSes will happily charge them right up with no modification. CC/CV models will require some circuit adaptation; but it could be worth it.
I have a PSU I've been running made from two DPS-1200FB common-slot server power supplies (bought for ~ $15 each back before the "something-for-nothing" crowd started buying them up in hopes of scoring big in ButtCoin) in series for years; it powers my big LiPo charger. It's had a cheap 1F/24V stiffening cap across it all that time.
Excuse the windows 10 sin; it's currently connected to my windows desktop machine.
No sin in running WIN10. I'm quite happy with it. I think I have every tracker disabled but it's hard to tell because MS is a little sneaky in that aspect. And it gets along fine with the rest of my home network consisting of a media PC running WIN7 Ultimate and another laptop running dual boot WIN7 Home / Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
meh.
I've had my fill of Ubuntu; its still as much "more time under the hood than using it" headache as Android.
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Apple OS is off somewhere on its own little cloud of smug e-schmucks who spend the day sniffing their own farts; Winblows sucks and blows at the same time, but it's the evil I know so I still suffer with it. EVERY OS SUCKS.
mnem
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