Oh dear, we're back to the great IOS v Android debate, well it seems I was right about Apple slowing down old phones almost to a point where it becomes almost a brick and according to many people, unusable, here is the evidence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42438745. Strange to think then that prior to doing the OS updates when notified, that the older phones were performing perfectly OK and if it is to protect the battery, then why do they insist on sealing the battery inside the phone? Most other makes make it easy for the user / owner to replace the battery and thus mitigate the "problem" of old batteries not coping and shutting down a phone. I smell huge portions of ![Bullshit Detector :bullshit:](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/BullshitDetector.gif)
I think it's a fair response although it would be nice to document it. Preserve reliability over performance.
Got to ask though; have you ever replaced a battery in an iPhone? I have. It's really easy, even if it's glued in...
You go in the Apple store and they will do it there and then for free if measured capacity is less than 80%. If they can't do it, they give you a new handset. I literally did this last month on my daughter's iPhone 5s which is 5 years old! They still handle replacements there and it cost me NOTHING because of the 6 years under CRA (you have to tell them that or they will try and charge you). If you're on Apple Care (I am) they will send you a new handset in the post next day and then you put your old one in the box and post it back (free) for any repairs or problems. You have zero downtime. And this works in any Apple Store anywhere in the world, so say I'm in the US - I can get the handset sorted even though it was bought in the UK.
I had a light spot on my screen after a month, walked into the Apple Store and 30 minutes later walked out with a new handset, all data copied over and working. No questions asked.
Android. You can feel it dying because you start getting battery panic when you're off charge for more than a couple of hours. Then the handset dies randomly after 30 minutes of use periodically, if the battery gauge even functions properly. Then you hit Amazon and find that the original battery discontinued or is glued in anyway on most androids now. Go down the market and ask Rashid (my local phone repairer not a generalisation) to replace it. He gives me hooky generic battery which costs me £20 anyway and has dubious capacity. He charges £20 to install it. Then it won't charge properly after a week. (Real life Motorola and Samsung experience there)
Hmm.
That is simply overcome by not buying the very cheapest handset you can find where the original thoughts in the design stage might have been, make it cheap enough and when people get problems, there'll throw it away and get a new one logic, hardly good for the environment. Buy a decent phone like a Samsung and the back is off in a couple of seconds, battery out, new one in and back snapped back on in less then a minute using nothing more than a finger nail. Original batteries are still available for my back up phone, Galaxy S3 after a good few years since it was launched and still going strong and my main phone is a Samsung Galaxy J5 (2016) a nice slim phone, large screen and replaceable battery.
I'm pleased that your daughters phone was sorted out at a Apple centre but you still had to take it there, and you still had to know the law and quote them about the 6 years under CRA, otherwise they wanted to charge you.
My eldest son is a huge Apple fan boy and when he recently upgraded his phone, it went tech after a few weeks of use and so we made a pilgrimage to the local Apple centre in Lakeside Shopping Centre, and there he went the process of getting a replacement 4 times on the same day without leaving the Apple store in order to get an acceptable working phone!!
No I have never replaced a battery on an Iphone but I have on Ipods in the past and I have all the required sprudgers to carry that out on a phone if required but the boys seem worried about marking their phones and would rather buy a new phone
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