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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3225 on: October 27, 2017, 10:50:59 am »
They might be electrician. The guy I use is worse :)

Those little 1uF 63v jobbies from China certainly go off nicely. They'll blow a hole in the wife's tupperware easily (oops). I occasionally buy a few when I do an order with Tayda or somewhere purely to blow up.

I've got some interesting sprague cans here I pulled out of that HP 6206B. Considering taking them in the garden on an extension lead :)
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3226 on: October 27, 2017, 08:27:41 pm »
Please do post - it's one of the best things looking at before/after photos  :-+

Ok, her you are: My "new" Oltronix B300D dirty and cleaned side by side:


I just did a cleaning of the outer surface first. I haven't touched the inside yet because it's working well and clean inside.
What one can't see on the photo is the cleaned inside of the binding posts.   :)
I will probably check the electrolytics when the time is right..  :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3227 on: October 27, 2017, 08:59:11 pm »
Looks like new. Nice job  :-+
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3228 on: October 27, 2017, 09:38:15 pm »
If you want to maintain the vintage look i.e. on an old radio chassis etc, it's better to gut the can entirely and leave it hollow, then solder the caps under the chassis.

Yep, that's the method Paul Carlson uses in his restoration videos. It's not only safer, but preserves the look without the hassle of disassembling the old cap, disposing of the innards, restuffing, affixing, etc.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3229 on: October 27, 2017, 11:35:34 pm »
His is one of my favourite YouTube channels :)

Some quick porn before bed. I got both the 465B and the 475 working perfectly at last!

So October is two working Tektronix scopes, an HP power supply and all for the total expenditure of £98.04 including replacement parts. Good month of TEA  :-+



(and before anyone says anything, yes I know the 465B's vertical is off - some numpty has been at the trimmers. I'm going to borrow a Tek 191 off a former colleague and calibrate it properly in a few weeks when we meet up for our quarterly beer-o-thon.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3230 on: October 28, 2017, 12:36:18 am »
Good month of TEA, indeed. Great stuff, bd139. :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3231 on: October 28, 2017, 01:08:15 am »
Yes indeed, you've earned a packet of Chocolate Digestives to with your TEA. :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3232 on: October 28, 2017, 04:13:11 am »
If you want to maintain the vintage look i.e. on an old radio chassis etc, it's better to gut the can entirely and leave it hollow, then solder the caps under the chassis.

Some nice Russian cans going off here to show the destruction possible:

[LINK to video of Russian NoGoodSenseNiks doing stuff that will burn down a house once Murphy catches up with them]

Those guys are Darwin Awards waiting to happen...  :palm:


ebay has already announced its decision to me and that includes the full refund, so little worries.
Like you I don't believe it till I see it.
Got up this morning, checked my paypal account and tada: ebay has refunded me the full price plus all shipping costs including customs!  :-+
My first reaction was transferring the refund to my bank account anyway.  :)

Looks like you got really lucky... best buy a Lotto ticket. ;)

It's perfectly safe if you don't do anything stupid. Problem is we're stupid animals :)

My wife tells me I'm a dumb ass all the time...  :-DD

That post was mainly for the benefit of those who haven't seen a can blow :)

Hahaha. Similar. I used to buy old valve radios from jumble sales, come home, plug them in and see what happened. Usually were dumped off at a jumble sale for a reason after being left in a shed for a few years. Not very healthy capacitors galore. You haven't lived though until you've blown the cap, it shorted then smoked a transformer and had to crawl out of the kitchen door on the floor to avoid the smoke :-DD

Oh and selenium rectifiers - pong :(

Been dere, dunnat, burned the shirt. While I was wearing it.   :-BROKE

My first practical electronics course in high school; we'd plug small electrolytics into the outlet strips across the top shelves of the workbenches so when the teacher flipped them on fist thing they'd pop off... well, after a few such gags, ol' man Firch didn't turn on the strips first thing in the AM; he showed a video lecture presentation on Tesla coils and Van DeGraaf generators and waited until we were watching some especially aggressive man-made lightning to set them off.

I think I was the only one who noticed; but the capacitors had been relocated to sockets right by the regular perps. Fortunately, my cap was "accidentally" knocked onto the floor... but I got the message.  :bullshit:


Lastly, thanks for the test gear pr0n you guys... well done indeed.  :-+


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3233 on: October 28, 2017, 05:50:02 am »
My first practical electronics course in high school; we'd plug small electrolytics into the outlet strips across the top shelves of the workbenches so when the teacher flipped them on fist thing they'd pop off... well, after a few such gags, ol' man Firch didn't turn on the strips first thing in the AM; he showed a video lecture presentation on Tesla coils and Van DeGraaf generators and waited until we were watching some especially aggressive man-made lightning to set them off.

Nice! Chalk one up for the teacher's revenge. :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3234 on: October 29, 2017, 06:47:37 am »
I got the probed for my 7704A and i'm left wondering how its meant to work?
I understand the bit of how the readout pin works, it uses a resistor to ground, but what i don't get (yet) is how i tell it to do anything useful because of it.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3235 on: October 29, 2017, 09:43:00 am »
I don't think that you do, it tells the scope that its plugged in and the scope will automatically switch in and the extra features as it thinks necessary, check the  know the manual and it should tell you how it works.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3236 on: October 29, 2017, 10:06:07 am »
It shorts the BNC shell to the ring. That’s all it does. If you have a readout on your scope it changes the vertical scale to the right one I.e it will show 50mV div for a 10x instead of 500mV or on the 4xx ones it lights up the other bulb.

I wish my rigol had that!
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3237 on: October 29, 2017, 10:42:15 am »
i physically checked and there IS 11k resistance between readout and shell, just as the article said. My really nice probe didn't have any continuity, so i'm assuming thats broken.

EDIT:

Broke readout on one probe aside, it works. Now i feel stupid for not checking both, should i be fussy that the nicest probe in a lot sold as working is not in fact fully working?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3238 on: October 29, 2017, 10:54:43 am »
It only passes a small current though so 11k is probably fine as well. As long as the indicator changes that’s all that matters.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3239 on: October 29, 2017, 11:05:15 am »
Apologies, i was unclear the 11k is the one that works. There is one with a 1x/10x switch, P6063B, that does not have continuity on the readout pin, thats the one i bid on the auction for and it does not do anything to the readout.

The resistance is meant to be there, 11k for 10X 6k for 100X and i don't know the value for 1x.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3240 on: October 29, 2017, 11:24:44 am »
1x should be open circuit in theory.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3241 on: October 29, 2017, 11:30:01 am »
If you want to maintain the vintage look i.e. on an old radio chassis etc, it's better to gut the can entirely and leave it hollow, then solder the caps under the chassis.
Yep, that's the method Paul Carlson uses in his restoration videos. It's not only safer, but preserves the look without the hassle of disassembling the old cap, disposing of the innards, restuffing, affixing, etc.

I didn't even know that "restuffing" was a thing. That's madness.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3242 on: October 29, 2017, 11:32:06 am »
1x should be open circuit in theory.

That makes sense, but back to the point the P6063B does not have functional readout despite being advertised as working. How fussy should i be?

If you want to maintain the vintage look i.e. on an old radio chassis etc, it's better to gut the can entirely and leave it hollow, then solder the caps under the chassis.
Yep, that's the method Paul Carlson uses in his restoration videos. It's not only safer, but preserves the look without the hassle of disassembling the old cap, disposing of the innards, restuffing, affixing, etc.

I didn't even know that "restuffing" was a thing. That's madness.


Of course restuffing is a thing. If it can be done it is a thing, doesn't matter how insane it is if it can be done then it has been, or will be, and is, or will be, a thing. We are a mad race.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3243 on: October 29, 2017, 02:13:06 pm »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3244 on: October 29, 2017, 04:21:46 pm »
Apologies, i was unclear the 11k is the one that works. There is one with a 1x/10x switch, P6063B, that does not have continuity on the readout pin, thats the one i bid on the auction for and it does not do anything to the readout.

The resistance is meant to be there, 11k for 10X 6k for 100X and i don't know the value for 1x.

the extra conductor in the probe lead in the P6063 and similar probes is the first thing to go

I would recommend probemaster, they make very nice, brand new replacements for all the old Tek probes, and they sell replacement parts for their products at reasonable prices.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3245 on: October 29, 2017, 09:30:37 pm »
Big booey hooey here. The EGR on my car just exploded this afternoon. So it has been unceremoniously dumped outside the garage and will be looked at tomorrow. Hope the hell they fix it before Kempton or no TEA for me  :'(
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3246 on: October 29, 2017, 09:46:04 pm »
Don't be so negative; come with a backpack to Kempton Park station, which is right by the venue :) But come on the bus :(
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3247 on: October 29, 2017, 09:54:29 pm »
Found a bus route! 290 bus literally goes 2 mins from my front door right past Kempton. Phew  ^-^

I hate busses. Disease factories! :( Also need to find an Oyster card or cross fingers Apple Pay works.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3248 on: October 29, 2017, 10:06:29 pm »
Don't knock buses, I used to be an engineer on them, did my apprenticeship on the buses (not LT) never did me any harm...  :blah: or did it?, thats where I became hooked on TEA  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #3249 on: October 29, 2017, 10:08:35 pm »
Found a bus route! 290 bus literally goes 2 mins from my front door right past Kempton. Phew  ^-^

I hate busses. Disease factories! :( Also need to find an Oyster card or cross fingers Apple Pay works.
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