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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2023, 06:43:13 pm »
At work I used to use a Beckman 350? DMM that had 6x D cells as the power source, no annoying auto switch off, as it had a manual power switch. They are quite old though, the plastics used for the casing degrades with age, plus the risk of it being a write-off if the batteries were Duraleak.

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2023, 08:23:49 pm »
At work I used to use a Beckman 350? DMM that had 6x D cells as the power source

I'm guessing it wasn't sold as a "pocket multimeter".  :D
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2023, 08:43:13 pm »
He also said "...not bankrupt me or cost an amount that will never make me dare use it"   :-//

Flukes might be prohibitively costly, but the BM235 can be had for less than $100 (though it might be harder to find than a Fluke).  And that's the meter that doesn't need APO to be turned off because it's smart enough to know when it's in use.
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2023, 12:34:24 am »
If you're in the US, FLIR is having a sale right now on the DM64 for $49 with free shipping: https://www.flir.com/products/dm64/
Best I can tell it is the BM235, although previously it has been reported the DM66 is the BM235.  The DM64 and DM66 pages on FLIR's site seem identical.
 
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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2023, 01:25:47 am »
That's a darn good deal.


Update:

Scanning the FLIR DM64 an Brymen BM235 manuals the only difference I noticed was the DM64 is rated up to 600V while the BM235 is rated up to 1000V.

I noticed no differences between the DM64 and DM66 - not sure why there are two model numbers with two slightly very different prices.  DM66 is $164,  DM64 is $104 (on sale now for $50 as J-R pointed out).

The Brymen warranty is 1 year, the FLIR warranty is 3 years (though the data sheet for the DM64 says "limited lifetime", which doesn't match up with the manual it seems the datasheet is a misprint or maybe old).
« Last Edit: April 13, 2023, 05:31:45 am by mwb1100 »
 
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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2023, 03:07:19 am »
FLUKE 15-17B+ and some other FLUKE allow you to disable the auto-shutoff.

If you hold down the yellow button when you turn it on, It disables the auto-shutoff feature. I believe this is true for 15-17B+ models and more. It will momentarily flash "Poff" then"Loff". Here are two pictures.

 
« Last Edit: April 13, 2023, 06:11:08 pm by Nikola Tesla Junior IV »
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2023, 08:42:20 am »
If you're in the US, FLIR is having a sale right now on the DM64 for $49 with free shipping: https://www.flir.com/products/dm64/
Best I can tell it is the BM235.

Nice deal, get 'em while you can!

 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2023, 06:22:13 pm »
The apparent lack of difference between the DM64 and the DM66 was driving me a little crazy.  Poking around the internet, I came across an answer from a FLIR support person on an Amazon listing for the DM66:

The difference is not in terms of the technical part of the meter, but in the elements that it comes with when purchased.

the DM66 comes with:

  - DM66 with integral probe holder
  - 2 × alkaline batteries (AAA)
  - high-quality silicone test leads
  - alligator clips
  - soft carrying case

the DM64:

  - DM64 with integral probe holder
  - 2 × alkaline batteries (AAA)
  - high-quality silicone test leads
  - type K thermocouple
  - soft carrying case

So the difference between the DM64 and DM66 is that one comes with a thermocouple and the other comes with alligator clips.  Those must be some really nice alligator clips to justify a $60 difference in price!

(and the DM64 is still on sale for $50)
 
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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2023, 09:05:47 am »
2 hrs is short, I want it keep going 8 hrs . I hope it turn off if batteries get <15% so it wont damage them and never turn off powered from mains ?
wish it would adjust to 4,6,8 hr before turn off , how long is battery life and are batteries included with this ?
is there a calibration for f.ex resistance so I can zero out leads and check ones at less than one ohm ?


I also hope it remember all settings for ranges, etc so I dont need adjust preferences every boot.
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2023, 09:35:32 am »
I repair all kinds of equpment from computers to amplifiers with rails +- over 100volt to crts with high voltage points and thats for sure not when I want meter to beep at me within minutes of turn it on. I like the xdm1041 or 1241 and will probably get one of those. I have never seen any meter with 9v battery last long time, I wish most meters use 2x aa or better yet lithium cell that recharge easy and not micro usb ports that wear out in 10 uses. I hate the aaa with max 100 mah capacity used in all kinds of things, feels like a competition to sell new batteries to get rich... My scale came with 3v clock battery to make sure I keep buy new ones, I modded it with an old mobile phone cell and now it runs years before charge.
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2023, 09:59:36 am »
no this use 9v batt which is 6x aaa in series so I waste not two but 6 pricy batteries for every use and 20hrs to buy batt is not impressive.
and thats what the ad promise so I dont trust it and its twice the price of the 1041 and I not love spend more than 100 euros ,some of my meters cost 5 euros tho ofcoz quality wont quite match on those. All the meters i have today are hand held ones upto a 60 euro biltema one
I know there is meters costing 3-400 euros or more but then how will I dare use them , if I check current and then forget to change mode to voltage it goes bang and I need to mortgage house to replace it > not ideal.

the 1041 seems a hundred times better and more useful than the one you list and also half price , seems fairly accurate as well
is there a better similar option thats not more expensive ? I see some say it has some bugs in the firmware , slow autoranging for caps etc

I seldom measure voltages over mains so 500 or 1000v cover most of my needs and If i need more I can use resistor divider
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2023, 11:25:41 am »
I repair all kinds of equpment from computers to amplifiers with rails +- over 100volt to crts with high voltage points and thats for sure not when I want meter to beep at me within minutes of turn it on. I like the xdm1041 or 1241 and will probably get one of those. I have never seen any meter with 9v battery last long time, I wish most meters use 2x aa or better yet lithium cell that recharge easy and not micro usb ports that wear out in 10 uses. I hate the aaa with max 100 mah capacity used in all kinds of things, feels like a competition to sell new batteries to get rich... My scale came with 3v clock battery to make sure I keep buy new ones, I modded it with an old mobile phone cell and now it runs years before charge.

So whatever you work on can be placed on a bench? If so get an AC powered meter. Also you do this as a hobby? If you do this for a living you should earn enough that a $1000 DMM won't break your bank.
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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2023, 10:46:41 am »
Older meters, even from Fluke, often ran for 2000+ hours on a 9 volt alkaline battery.  I have not seen any modern meters with long battery life.

I should have included that old meters that lasted 2000+ hours were also manual ranging meters.  One of the disadvantages at the time with autoranging multimeters was much lower battery life.  These days all multimeters have poor battery life though.
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2023, 04:49:42 pm »
I should have included that old meters that lasted 2000+ hours were also manual ranging meters.  One of the disadvantages at the time with autoranging multimeters was much lower battery life.  These days all multimeters have poor battery life though.
I don't know about 2000+ hours, but the discontinued RadioShack 22-812 meter is autoranging with a 9 V battery, and it runs for months, even years, between battery changes. I have left it switched on for many hours while data logging without any noticeable impact on the battery.
 

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Re: seek multimeter that not eat batteries or turn off
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2023, 05:50:21 pm »
Fluke 27s are autoranging and go for 1000s of hours.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2023, 09:17:42 pm by Fungus »
 


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