Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)

[coromonadalix]

do you mean theses on TEK ??   i have an account there and i have all of theses  with

tds7704b_firmware_v5.1.3_066050111.exe                           main files for restoration / re-install 
CSA7154-7404_TDS7154-7254-7404_2.5.3_066031605.exe   fw upgrades

EthernetTestUtilitySetup_066079619     wich is tdsset3 if i recall
Jitter_App.exe
ProtocolTriggerandDecode.exe
TDSCPM2_v3_1_0.exe
TDSDDM2V3_0_1.exe
TDSDVD_V1_2_2.exe
TDSUSB2_Setup_066140005.exe
TDSVNM.exe


would you post your link for your cd roms option / files ??

[charlyd]

yes that is right but i specially mean :

TDSPWR2   NOT 3
TDSET2   NOT 3

[coromonadalix]

only thing so far on tek

DPOPWR Advanced Power Analysis Solution for
DPO7000C, DPO-MSO5000, DPO-MSO5000B,DPO-DSA-MSO70000C, DPO-DSA70000D, MSO-DPO70000DX, DPO70000SX-Win7 - V10.1.2


Version: V 10.1.2
Release Date: 8/27/2017 12:00:00 AM


not being rude while i salute your tenacity

I think you ae chasing some ghosts of the past ??  tdsset3  as been out for a very long time

there is a seller on ebay who claim some recovery disk for many Tek models  around 300 usd ??  wich is a rip off,  and sadly  there was some alternate tek ftp hosting sites who went down ...

and other sellers for some original tek disks BUT they dont list their content ??

[calibrationfixture]

Hi to All,

On this moment I am looking for the 063-3836-00: Operating System Restore Disk(s) Set for the CSA7000B, TDS7000B, TDS6000B and TDS6000C Series. Anybody who will share its image?

Greetings,

Calibrationfixture

[charlyd]

[Solved] repairing a powerPc board i got this error i have replaced the nvram with a fram . can this be related to the swap ?

booting the unit doesn t give any error before the VxWorks logo part, and when i had a fram soldering fault a while ago on an other unit i got an error already in the beginning. after resoldering the fram that unit booted without errors anymore but this log looks different but i can be mistaken of course.

any suggestions?

today i fixed the powerPc board the problem was wfminit related. I guess this board had seen liquid /water...?! because tracks were corroded & broken , discovered under the microscope.

[ObscureName37]

Hi all! I am repairing a TDS7054, and I am getting stuck at the the Loading phase of the PPC boot (L on the 7seg LED). Here is some context for my repair.

Originally, scope ran Win2000 and would boot into the OS, but TekScope would not start. 7seg showed .A, so after replacing the NVRAM chip and PowerCap, everything worked perfectly! I had ordered a compact flash card and IDE adapter, but just before I could copy everything, the hard drive died.

Now I've done a fresh install of WinXP SP3, and installed TekScope package and various drivers I've found. Now the PowerPC gets stuck at the L phase, and TekScope does not run.

I am missing a driver for 'Other PCI Bridge Device' in device manager, I am not sure if I need any other drivers or packages for the OS or PPC.

The PPC outputs up to here, and then gets stuck:
Press any key to stop auto-boot...
 0
auto-booting...


boot device          : sm
processor number     : 0
file name            : c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.1:ffffff00
host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.2
gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.1
flags (f)            : 0x1008
target name (tn)     : tds7000
startup script (s)   : c:/vxboot/topscript.hw

Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done


Any help or download links would be amazing, thank you!

[coromonadalix]

list your device pid / vid properties   i have backup of many drivers

[charlyd]

you miss your dioservice inter board driver. connects your powerPC board wirh your Intel board.   it is called  tektronix PowerPc or so i suggest to install  v1.12  that is the latest. you have to install drivers located in the tektronix folder.
send me a dm. i will help you.

[ObscureName37]

Hello! After digging around further on this thread I was able to find the PPC board driver .
BUT I am still missing the Touch Screen drivers and calibration software if anyone has those pretty please!

Additionally I was able to recover data of the old Win2000 drive, so if anyone needs either hard drive image for Win2000 or WinXP just let me know. I can also send any drivers if you don't want to dig around in the forum for hours.

[Yroger]

Good morning,
Has anyone ever encountered the following problem with a CSA8000:
When loading VxWorks at the 'boot device' line I get strange characters instead of 'SM' and obviously a little further on when loading it notifies me: 'Can't load boot file!!'
I tried the 'C' command but it jumps directly to the 'processor number' line every time !! The '_' command does not work for the boot device line. So I can't modify the boot device line. (the following lines can be modified without problem)
Anyone have a solution?
ps: Windows 98 starts normally and of course the Tektronix application remains frozen on the start page.

[coromonadalix]

Good morning,
Has anyone ever encountered the following problem with a CSA8000:
When loading VxWorks at the 'boot device' line I get strange characters instead of 'SM' and obviously a little further on when loading it notifies me: 'Can't load boot file!!'
I tried the 'C' command but it jumps directly to the 'processor number' line every time !! The '_' command does not work for the boot device line. So I can't modify the boot device line. (the following lines can be modified without problem)
Anyone have a solution?
ps: Windows 98 starts normally and of course the Tektronix application remains frozen on the start page.

be sure to check any cr lf  cr+lf  commands sent when you type ??   or local echo may disturb you ... had to put it at off
had some problems in the console port of the tds7k  im trying to revive  ...

[coromonadalix]

TDS7404 story


I'm doing an tug of war with an tds7404, the nvram died,  read tons of threads trying to figure out the console port pins and how to recover / rebuild the nvram contents

I'm left with 2 unknown things in the nvram content, i can not find any infos about them, just different values... ?
flags (f)     : 0x1000  seems ok ?
other (o)    : nvfs=0x1000   had to put zero, if not,  it would stall after vxWorks ascii logo

On the hardware side (Radsys su810 mobo, P9 bios), i can acces the bios with F2, 

It's a mess trying to put 98  on this gimmick, cd-drom reject most modern cd-r burnt at 4x, i dont have any original w98 cd's,   

Tried to boot on it with many tryouts by putting the floppy 1st, cd-rom in second etc ... no avail, even external usb dvd's not working .....  blah blah and i tossed 1 year ago tons of thoses drives, cd dvd ones  grrrr 

I swap  primary vs secondary ide port, a more modern slim dvd-r will work, not the hdd drive (report bad size) 98 wont install ... 
tons of hw related problems just because i dont have new ones or more recent ones to swap them  lol

The most problems i have, is the touch screen drivers and the front panel drivers, i have many or same ones,  no avail 

Q : as some one have them ??   even tried one from a 7254   no avail ??

Xdev's site files are down,  wich is very frustrating, there is a repo, but way incomplete
EDIT :  apparently its not xdev's related


yesterday
I managed to get on Ebay for under 60$ an Gateway MX842  NLX mobo (Celeron 900 on it) used in gatweay E-3400 tower, this one has an intel 815 chipset  (fsb 100 and 133) and has an beautiful nlx edge card with all modern standard 40 pins 2x ide ports, floppy, pci slots  .... atx supply plug  etc ...

This is the highest possible option : you have the Intel BL440Zx, the Radsys SU810,  and i will try this one, i know the Radsys is working, doubts on the ide (very old) and the slim drive ....   

I have on it an celeron 5xx Mhz who's slow as hell loll

For sure you can put an 1000/256/100 cpu on it but they are sold sometimes high $$$

If someone have th Fp panel drivers and Touch drivers .... and the Power Pc file (to compare)


Help

[alm]

Xdev's site files are down,  wich is very frustrating

When was the last time you checked?

[calibrationfixture]

Hi,

This is the new location of xdevs its Tektronix Documents:

https://xdevs.mymsk.cloud/doc/Tektronix/

Succes,

Calibrationfixture

[coromonadalix]

yes  i used the provided link, but things are missing from his csa7404 ...  repair thread  ....

anyway   i'll redo  everything again,  maybe  the cd-r i used was at 4x too fast ?

I just found from a friend,  originals of w98 w2k  and a few slim drives i had not thrown out loll  ...


still confused about the   nrvam contents, still no answers

flags (f)     : 0x1000                 i saw 1008 on some threads ??
other (o)    : nvfs=0x1000        i used 0  ??

For sure i'll test the gateway board when i have it  ....   bit do my battle on the SU810 ...    tds7404  with the old original powercap nvram

Is there an user with an 7404  who can show the boot process of the power pc board on it's console port ?

thks

aaaaand  i search the :  Semtec Touch Screen Calibrator V.1.00.70.1

[alm]

This is the new location of xdevs its Tektronix Documents:

https://xdevs.mymsk.cloud/doc/Tektronix/

Just go here and register for access to the original. 

[coromonadalix]

oh damn  never saw this page ... thks

request sent

a well learned lesson of not doing proper backups before the 7404 crashed,  the 7254b  was easy to restart ... vs this one ??  i did backup the vxWork folder but not took the log of the powerpc 

i read about the motherboard pickyness on some instances ...

had to re-read the entire thread,  still miss a few things ...

[calibrationfixture]

Hi again,

Thank you alm. Does it mean that the link I provided is "suspect" ?

Calibrationfixture

[alm]

Thank you alm. Does it mean that the link I provided is "suspect".

I'm not sure. It's certainly not related to xdevs.com. As far as I know it's a copy made without knowledge of the xdevs.com team (of which I'm not a member). I don't know who made this copy. It's unlikely to be updated with new documents that are uploaded to xdevs.com given that sucking up all the bandwidth with downloading everything was the reason for taking down doc.xdevs.com in the first place.

[Yroger]

Hello coromonadalix
You wrote:

be sure to check any cr lf  cr+lf  commands sent when you type ??
or local echo may disturb you ... had to put it at off

As said in a previous message I am not at all familiar with the commands what do you mean by turning off the local echo ??
Thanks for the help.

Below are the commands that appear on a csa 8000:

 ?                     - print this list

 @                     - boot (load and go)

 p                     - print boot params

 c                     - change boot params

 l                     - load boot file@

 g adrs                - go to adrs

 d adrs[,n]            - display memory

 m adrs                - modify memory

 f adrs, nbytes, value - fill memoryen

 t adrs, adrs, nbytes  - copy memory

 e                     - print fatal exception,

 n netif               - print network interface device address

 N                     - set ethernet addresNs

 $dev(0,procnum)host:/file h=# e=# b=# g=# u=usr [pw=passwd] f=#

                           tn=targetname s=script o=other

 Boot flags:           

   0x02   - load local system symbols

   0x04   - don't autoboot

   0x08   - quick autoboot (no countdown)

   0x20   - disable login security

   0x40   - use bootp to get boot parameters

   0x80   - use tftp to get boot image

   0x100  - use proxy arp

   0x1000 - use dio to get boot image 

available boot devices: feippc bp sm
[VxWorks Boot]: [VxWorks Boot]:

[coromonadalix]

7404 scope non B model   with tca adapters

hi   because on some serial terminal softwares, some have local echo on  by default and or other settings, you have to find the right ones
and it was messing the keyboard commands in my case

if everything is right, when you see the power pc log / console port going on, and you see an 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 .. countdown,  normally any key press will stop the power pc booting process, it will simply halt

once done  pressing "c"   will enter the settings or re-write them correctly

this page will help you understand 
https://xdevs.com/fix/csa7404/

or the 1st page of this thread by TIN


Sadly in all of our scopes stories, we have to fiddle a lot to find our answers, TEK forums,  answers i gave and forgot  etc ...

With tons of search, tests and tryouts, downloads etc ...                     
i'll know more in the next week if i'll be sucessfull

i have with members help got tons of drivers ...  not sure if i have all of them

some mobo drivers etc ...  found original win98se and win2k cd's,   lots of slim drives  etc ...    Ghost files, Img files etc ... 

and ordered some ide44 pins to sata interface converter from fleabay, i found out some 64gb industrial Sandisk ssd ...   

Intel Chipset 815 Gateway MX842   NLX motherboard  to push the pc side system to the max 

man this scope take lot of ressources  loll souvenirs and know how ...  ooooold days

[Yroger]

if everything is right, when you see the power pc log / console port going on, and you see an 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 .. countdown,  normally any key press will stop the power pc booting process, it will simply halt

once done  pressing "c"   will enter the settings or re-write them correctly

So what you call "the echo" is when the startup program runs in a loop and to stop it you have to press a key when 12345...
So so far so good and I can change all the settings except the hard drive. I also did various manipulations without success.

[coromonadalix]

settings like hardrive ??  the folder location ?  physical drive exchange ?

you need to have a vxBoot folder  on your c: drive

other people mentioned sometimes it had another name ...

normally on the drive root folder, check folder names .... and in it you will see an  key file  sn file   calcon / calcons folder  ...

and yes 
it is normally hidden and sometimes read only, in windows you need to change the explorer settings to show hidden folders, i normally unhide it and remove the read only attributes

[Yroger]

As soon as I can I will share the problem encountered.
Thank

[CNsam]

hello! On working my CSA7154 post code LED is staying at '.A' and the screen was staying  at TekScope application running. Can anybody tell me if this is an issue with NVRAM or something else? Thank you from the bottom of my heart！