Author Topic: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU) (Read 324904 times)

WORP3 · « **Reply #600 on:** December 17, 2020, 04:34:37 pm »

Looking at all the content inside this post, it would be helpful for some to also look at my new post about a TDS7404:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/boot-problem-on-tektronix-tds7404-scope/msg3374538/#msg3374538

After a lot of script problem, i'm back to having a booting TDS7404 without the correct S/N

charlyd · « **Reply #601 on:** December 17, 2020, 08:26:47 pm »

today i feeded my NVram with external +4.6v on pin5 and pin 17 to GND.

then i lifted the powercap and took out the old battery.
drilled two holes at the right place in the powercap cover and attached a CR2477 socket. i had to reverse it so it would fit next to the NLX bus connector on the Powerpc baord and after swapping the wiring arround, clicked it back in place on the NVram.
the battery socket en powercap cover look ed as if it is one pieces and the total reworked cap fits ok under the aluminium Intel board frame.

reconnected everything and ready to power-up...

ok ready for booting for the first time.
will the scope fully startup??
-windows xp booted fine.
-tekscope software started and ran to the end ( the 8 digit display nicely showed the flashing "-" )
-my error was gone
-my options were empty. (was this because of the corruption)

i am still curious how to check if the fact. service call. info is still in.

WORP3 · « **Reply #602 on:** January 10, 2021, 04:28:34 pm »

Quote from: Jwalling on July 25, 2020, 09:03:39 am

Does anyone know if there is a way to trash the contents on the Dallas DS1245 chip on the PPC board?
This one has a PDIP, and I'd rather not remove the chip if it can be done from the console port.
I'm replacing this board in a TDS7104 and I need to get rid of the serial # and key.

Yes you can, just copy a empty file inside the NVRAM space.

Jwalling · « **Reply #603 on:** January 11, 2021, 09:49:31 am »

Quote from: WORP3 on January 10, 2021, 04:28:34 pm

Quote from: Jwalling on July 25, 2020, 09:03:39 am
Does anyone know if there is a way to trash the contents on the Dallas DS1245 chip on the PPC board?
This one has a PDIP, and I'd rather not remove the chip if it can be done from the console port.
I'm replacing this board in a TDS7104 and I need to get rid of the serial # and key.
Yes you can, just copy a empty file inside the NVRAM space.

How is that done?

WORP3 · « **Reply #604 on:** January 15, 2021, 01:23:48 pm »

Quote from: Jwalling on January 11, 2021, 09:49:31 am

Quote from: WORP3 on January 10, 2021, 04:28:34 pm
Quote from: Jwalling on July 25, 2020, 09:03:39 am
Does anyone know if there is a way to trash the contents on the Dallas DS1245 chip on the PPC board?
This one has a PDIP, and I'd rather not remove the chip if it can be done from the console port.
I'm replacing this board in a TDS7104 and I need to get rid of the serial # and key.
Yes you can, just copy a empty file inside the NVRAM space.

How is that done?

I have made some scripts that make this possible. best to look at my repair post, scripts are available over there.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/boot-problem-on-tektronix-tds7404-scope/msg3415738/

bohrzqc · « **Reply #605 on:** January 23, 2021, 01:48:53 pm »

Quote from: pasta2018 on July 31, 2020, 11:07:27 pm

Quote from: Jwalling on July 31, 2020, 08:50:03 am
Quote from: pasta2018 on July 31, 2020, 07:12:04 am
Quote from: Jwalling on July 27, 2020, 09:17:11 am
A 24C16 will work fine.
Thanks，the error 521 disappeared now，I have made some simple test and the test results seems to be acceptable

You're welcome, that's great! Does it meet it's BW spec?
I dont have a 1GHz sinewave signal, but I believe the BW spec will no be a big issue, instead, maybe the dc voltage error is more obviously.

And now I find another problem ,each time I shutdown and then restart the scope, the scope goback to default status(before I shutdown it,I open 4 channel display,and after reboot,only CH1 is displayed. And each time after it restart, ch2 baseline offset is quite big,I have to run spc eachtime to make it right.
Seems each time I restart the scope,it loads the factory default. I attach my bootfile here, does anyone know what's the reason?
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU romPost: MPC106 Walking-one passed. romPost: MPC106 configuration passed. romPost: First PCI access passed. romPost: PC87560 Walking-one passed. romPost: PC87560 configuration passed. romPost: DEC21554 configuration passed. romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST... romPost: ROM checksum passed. romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST... romPost: Enabling data cache... romPost: Data cache enabled. romPost: Enabling instruction cache... romPost: Instruction cache enabled. romPost: DRAM Cell test passed. romPost: Disabling data Cache... romPost: Data cache disabled. romPost: Disabling instruction cache... romPost: Instruction cache disabled. romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF... romPost: Writing address to each *address... romPost: Reading address from each *address... romPost: DRAM march test passed... romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON... romPost: Enabling data cache... romPost: Data cache enabled. romPost: Enabling instruction cache... romPost: Instruction cache enabled. romPost: Writing address to each *address... romPost: Reading address from each *address... romPost: DRAM march test passed... romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE TEST... romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed. romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE TEST... romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed. romPost: Disabling data Cache... romPost: Data cache disabled. romPost: Disabling instruction cache... romPost: Instruction cache disabled. romPost: Enabling instruction cache... romPost: Instruction cache enabled. romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE. Hel VxWorks System Boot Copyright 1984-1996 Wind River Systems, Inc. CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740 Version: 5.3.1 BSP version: 1.0.3.0 Creation date: Jun 28 2000, 16:52:12 Press any key to stop auto-boot... 0 auto-booting... boot device : sm processor number : 0 host name : host file name : c:\vxBoot\vxWorks.st inet on ethernet (e) : 192.168.0.2:ffffff00 inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.0:ffffff00 host inet (h) : 192.168.0.1 gateway inet (g) : 192.168.0.2 user (u) : anonymous ftp password (pw) : anonymous flags (f) : 0x1000 target name (tn) : target startup script (s) : c:\vxBoot\topScript.hw other (o) : nvfs=0x1000 Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done. Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done done. Attaching network PC1 dio device driver installed interface lo0... done. Attaching DIO client... done. Loading c:\vxBoot\vxWorks.st...1773516 Starting at 0x200000... Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x16e0000... done. 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Processor #0. Memory Size: 0x2000000. BSP version 1.0.8.1 . WDB: Ready. usrNvFsInit: NAME=/nvram BASE=0xfd0ff100 BPB=512 BPT=8 NB=8 BO=0 nvfs: STATUS: Mounting existing NVRAM file system KERNEL: THERMAL CONTROL INITIATED Executing startup script c:\vxBoot\topScript.hw ... dbFsIoctl: invalid code 3 ################### topScript starts ############################### cd "dbfs:c:/vxBoot" value = 0 = 0x0 ld < TekScope.o value = 23737024 = 0x16a32c0 ld < TekScopeSM.o value = 23705952 = 0x169b960 pDbDev = ramDevCreate(0, 512, 1152, 1152, 0) new symbol "pDbDev" added to symbol table. pDbDev = 0x169bc00: value = 23706656 = 0x169bc20 = pDbDev + 0x20 pDBfs = dosFsMkfs("/db", pDbDev) new symbol "pDBfs" added to symbol table. pDBfs = 0x169b7e0: value = 23706400 = 0x169bb20 = pDBfs + 0x340 copy ("TekScope.DBF", "/db/TekScope.DBF") value = 0 = 0x0 overrideFPdefaults() value = 0 = 0x0 measurePPCtimebase value = 0 = 0x0 registerMemPartitionSizes ( 0x00000000 ) value = 0 = 0x0 semInitForQueueCheckLogMsg value = 23705408 = 0x169b740 initSysWaiter() value = 0 = 0x0 raxInit value = 0 = 0x0 paiInit done value = 17639480 = 0x10d2838 = PaiBaseRegisterTable + 0x948 verifyAcqBoardID value = 0 = 0x0 updateAcqProcFirmware("dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex") 0x155fde0 (tShell): AVR FLASH contents match file dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex - n o programming needed. value = 1 = 0x1 cd "pc:" value = 0 = 0x0 raxInitializeDevices 0x155fde0 (tShell): >> Setting PLL to 1.25e+09 Hz. done 0x155fde0 (tShell): (Re)starting Acq Processor value = 22412208 = 0x155fbb0 excHookAdd(stopStressForException) value = 17426908 = 0x109e9dc = stopStressForException dsyInit value = 21784264 = 0x14c66c8 dsyWPApplyNextRegs value = 17629356 = 0x10d00ac = DsyRegisterTable + 0xab0 # remove '#' from next line to set powerup scope state to factory default: # NvramClearDb = 1 nvram_initFileSys 0x155fde0 (tShell): >> Kernel version 1.0.8.1 does not match Boot ROM version 1 .0.3.0 value = -49409789 = 0xfd0e1103 = pDbDev + 0xfba45503 TmgrInit("/db") 0x155fde0 (tShell): NO BACKUP SERIAL NUMBER FOUND, RESTORING VALUE FROM DISK... 0x155fde0 (tShell): NO BACKUP SERIAL NUMBER FOUND, RESTORING VALUE FROM DISK... value = 0 = 0x0 PhxProxyInit value = 21018368 = 0x140b700 rtlInit value = 0 = 0x0 sysExtMemAddToPool memSysPartId,0x02000000,0x06000000 value = 0 = 0x0 hwAccount_init 0x155fde0 (tShell): >> Setting PLL to 1.25e+09 Hz. sysEnetAddrGet: d5:7f:95:df:75:53 value = 7 = 0x7 GpibInit value = 133284512 = 0x7f1c2a0 wfmMemInit(1) value = 47300320 = 0x2d1bee0 vertInstall value = 47293284 = 0x2d1a364 calConStatus = cc_init(2) 0x155fde0 (tShell): Reading 280 bytes of service cal data from EEPROM[0] into 0x 2d1a240 0x155fde0 (tShell): nvMem_read succeeded 0x155fde0 (tShell): Reading 66 bytes of service cal data from EEPROM[280] into 0 x2d1a300 0x155fde0 (tShell): nvMem_read succeeded 0x155fde0 (tShell): extd chksum failed, stored = 0xffffffff calc = 0x28d5a0ee 0x155fde0 (tShell): cc_init: extended bank17 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory 0x155fde0 (tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file C:/vxBoot/calCons/0 0x155fde0 (tShell): cc_init: bank 0 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory 0x155fde0 (tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file C:/vxBoot/calCons/1 0x155fde0 (tShell): cc_init: bank 1 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory 0x155fde0 (tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file C:/vxBoot/calCons/2 0x155fde0 (tShellcalConStatus): cc_init: bank = 2 chksum failed, NOT reset to f actory 0x0x155fde01321eec (tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file : value C:/vxBoot/c alCons/= 3164335 0x155fde0 (tShell = 0x): cc_init: bank 281ef3 chksum failed, NOT reset to factor y 0x155fde0 ( tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file updateTrigCaC:/vxBoot/calCons/l5 0x155fde0 (tShell): value = cc_init: bank 05 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory = 0x0x155fde0 (tShell0): cc_restoreBank: can't open file C:/vxBoot/calCons/6 0x155fde0 (tShell): MathMeasCreatcc_init: bank eTheMa6thandMeasurementLib ch ksum failed, NOT reset to factory rar0xies155fde0 (tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file valuC:/vxBoot/calCons/e 7= 0x155fde0 (tShell47120704): cc_init: bank = 0x7 chksum failed, NOT reset to fac tory 2cf01400x155fde0 (tShell): cc_restoreBank: can't open file initAcqC:/vxBoot/calCons/Ma8pper 0x155fde0 (tShell ): cc_init: bank value = 8 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory 00x155fde0 (tShell = 0x): cc_restoreBank: can't open file 0C:/vxBoot/calCons/ 15 0x155fde0 (tShell trigMapInit): cc_init: bank 15 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory val0xue = 155fde0 (tShell0): cc_chkLimits: CC_VERT_ATTENIMBAL_100X_CH2 = 0x was ; reset to factory 00x155fde0 (tShell): cc_chkLimits: dsyMCC_VERT_ATTENIMBAL_1X_CH2apInit was ; reset to factory 0x155fde0value = (tShell0): initAcqMapper: Enter = 0x0 mathMapperInit value = 0 = 0x0 utilMapInit value = 47118048 = 0x2cef6e0 TmgrHookup value = 0 = 0x0 PhxProxyHookup value = 0 = 0x0 hookupAcqMapper value = 20033680 = 0x131b090 = AcqMapperRtlDataList MathMeasMapHookup value = 22412040 = 0x155fb08 dsyMapHookup value = 22412144 = 0x155fb70 utilMapHookup value = 22412176 = 0x155fb90 rtlHookup value = 0 = 0x0 horizMapHookup value = 22412136 = 0x155fb68 fastFrameMapHookup value = 22412160 = 0x155fb80 trigMapHookup value = 22412168 = 0x155fb88 vertMapHookup value = 22412160 = 0x155fb80 spcMapHookup value = 22412160 = 0x155fb80 autosetMapHookup value = 22412200 = 0x155fba8 timeSyncMapHookup value = 22412192 = 0x155fba0 auxTrigMapHookup value = 22412176 = 0x155fb90 dpoMapHookup value = 22412168 = 0x155fb88 TmgrStartup value = 46269840 = 0x2c20590 PhxProxyStartup value = 46219296 = 0x2c14020 taskDelay(2) value = 0 = 0x0 gpibHwInitC value = 0 = 0x0 gpibTaskSpawn value = 45990560 = 0x2bdc2a0 gpibIoInit "/dbios/DBIO005","/dbios/DBIO006" value = 45502752 = 0x2b65120 enablePowerupDiags = 0 enablePowerupDiags = 0x12f1330: value = 0 = 0x0 runPowerupDiags done dipSwitch = 0x0, enablePowerupDiags = 0, puMode=0 CalDiagPowerUpDiagsEnabled = 0 !! SKIPPING POWERUP DIAGNOSTICS !! 0x2b188e0 (digHFTask): >> Setting PLL to 1.25e+09 Hz. 0x2b188e0 (digHFTask): >> Setting PLL to 1.25e+09 Hz. 0x2b188e0 (digHFTask): >> Setting PLL to 1.25e+09 Hz. value = 17649712 = 0x10d5030 = SoftSwitchesRegisterTable + 0x48 rtlStartup value = 0 = 0x0 tsComp value = 0 = 0x0 ################### topScript ends ############################### Done executing startup script c:\vxBoot\topScript.hw KERNEL: RUNNING TIME SLICED AT 10 TICKS PER SLICE! ->

Hello. My TDS 7104 presents the same 521 error. I bought some used X24165 chips, and try to replace it.
My English is terrible. Hope you can understand me.

charlyd · « **Reply #606 on:** January 24, 2021, 01:10:21 pm »

Hi i would be carefull with pulling these eeproms. Inside are your factory cals stored and your scope needs tobe re-calibrated for sure. nowadays no FAS is available anymore and equiptment like a fluke 9500B needs to be part of your workbench or you will get yourself into an extra problems. $$$

is the rest of your scope ok bohrzqc . post log here.

bohrzqc · « **Reply #607 on:** January 26, 2021, 03:19:20 am »

Quote from: charlyd on January 24, 2021, 01:10:21 pm

Hi i would carefull with pulling these eeproms. Inside are your factory cals stored and your scope needs tobe re-calibrated for sure. nowadays no FAS is available anymore and equiptment like a fluke 9500B needs to be part of your workbench or you will get yourself into an extra problems. $$$

is the rest of your scope ok bohrzqc . post log here.

After replaced the X24165 chip, the 521 error still exists. I wonder whether only replacing the X24165 chip is OK or some cal data should be written to the chip. Jay upload the cal data of his 7104. So the cal data should be written to the chip?
I bought some AT24C16B chips, and plan to replace tomorrow.
Maybe I solved the baseline offset is reset to the factory default. First delete the calConStatus = cc_init(2) in the boot file, save the file. Restart the scope. Add the calConStatus = cc_init(2) to the original place again, and save the file, restart the scope.
However, this method is useless for another 7104. Maybe this due to the X24165 chip. Not sure.

Jwalling · « **Reply #608 on:** January 26, 2021, 09:44:23 am »

Quote from: bohrzqc on January 26, 2021, 03:19:20 am

After replaced the X24165 chip, the 521 error still exists. I wonder whether only replacing the X24165 chip is OK or some cal data should be written to the chip. Jay upload the cal data of his 7104. So the cal data should be written to the chip?

Yes. If you use my cal data, the error should go away, but won't be valid for obvious reasons.

charlyd · « **Reply #609 on:** January 28, 2021, 11:35:59 pm »

Hi bohrzqc: is this what you did? and what did it bring you?

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-csa7404-repair-project/msg2764508/#msg2764508

bohrzqc · « **Reply #610 on:** January 31, 2021, 02:11:49 am »

Quote from: charlyd on January 28, 2021, 11:35:59 pm

Hi bohrzqc: is this what you did? and what did it bring you?

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-csa7404-repair-project/msg2764508/#msg2764508

No.
calConStatus = cc_init(1) cannot settle the problem of the offset of the baseline, only can reset the cal data to factory values. I think resetting the factory cal values is useless. My method is not always effective. Maybe we should wait for expert Jay or TiN to settle the problem.

charlyd · « **Reply #611 on:** February 01, 2021, 12:51:13 pm »

hi yes that is why i asked, because what did you do exactly in post #607 i am trying to figure out why you did those things.

ludow · « **Reply #612 on:** February 13, 2021, 12:18:49 pm »

Hi, thank you a lot for this forum.
I recently got a tds7154 from someone who find it.
I had to change the bios battery, find an hdd, install windows 2000 and the drivers.
Now, Tekscope launch but I can't see any trace, so I tried with windows XP and got the same problem. It takes measurement (we can see the range adapt with the input while clicking on autoset) but the trace are not displayed.

Have anyone an idea of what it could be?

Jwalling · « **Reply #613 on:** February 14, 2021, 09:59:56 am »

Quote from: ludow on February 13, 2021, 12:18:49 pm

Hi, thank you a lot for this forum.
I recently got a tds7154 from someone who find it.
I had to change the bios battery, find an hdd, install windows 2000 and the drivers.
Now, Tekscope launch but I can't see any trace, so I tried with windows XP and got the same problem. It takes measurement (we can see the range adapt with the input while clicking on autoset) but the trace are not displayed.

Have anyone an idea of what it could be?

Looks like the video driver. Make sure it is an Asiliant driver.

charlyd · « **Reply #614 on:** February 14, 2021, 10:41:46 pm »

@ludow, don t run the unit opened without a big fan blowing over the ACQ and or PSU. Normally with case closed the airflow is directed over the boards. with open case board run too hot.

ludow · « **Reply #615 on:** February 17, 2021, 10:38:57 pm »

yes thanks that was exactly this

Jwalling · « **Reply #616 on:** February 17, 2021, 11:17:19 pm »

Quote from: ludow on February 17, 2021, 10:38:57 pm

yes thanks that was exactly this

The driver, you mean?

ludow · « **Reply #617 on:** February 18, 2021, 12:08:39 am »

yes exactly, thank you

charlyd · « **Reply #618 on:** March 18, 2021, 04:41:44 pm »

Does anyone know the right adress for the eeprom asumming it is this X24165 (written in earlier post here) also for the TDS7404 ?
Just nice to know, where is it exactly located on the ACQ board?

I'd rather not (yet) remove the chip if it can be done from the console port or GPIB after after builing a tool for it to export and import content.
I want to get closer to the error where all onces as the checksum of 0xffffffff are stored. that is not ok.

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extd chksum failed, stored = 0xffffffff calc = 0xdb766060
0x16975c0 (tShell): cc_init: extended bank17 chksum failed, NOT reset to factory

Jay do you know the starting adress?

Jwalling · « **Reply #619 on:** March 19, 2021, 07:29:43 am »

Quote from: charlyd on March 18, 2021, 04:41:44 pm

Jay do you know the starting adress?

I do not.

Xyphro · « **Reply #620 on:** March 20, 2021, 08:29:02 pm »

Hi Guys!

After long time I wanted to use my (several times successfullz repaired) TDS7104 again.

However, trouble happened:

I turned it on and the internal LCD stayed white, the Frontpanel all lit, but it still seemed to boot properly. After some time of waiting, the relays clicked and I could operate with the frontpanel the probe, e.g. pressing the 1MOhm/50Ohm button actuated the relay, I could turn on/off channels, ...

Of course I attached an external screen to the PC VGA port). When powering on there was no signal detected, after windows booted, the screen detected a 640x400 pixel sync signal, but the screen keeps blank (tested the screen, it works and I used the same for installing windows XP before).

I thought it was a smart idea to remove the PC CMOS Bios battery (on the SF810 mainboard). However, since that point the PC scope application does not start anymore. The 7 segment display shows a blinking "-" sign and the frontpanel does not react anymore.

Having had issues with the power supply before I of course checked the power supply and all voltage rails show proper voltages.

Does anybody have a clue what I can look for?
Without VGA signal I am really clueless how I can access that guy to check a few things.

Best regards,

Kai
Edit: Tried to boot from CD. It boots, but still no display content

Xyphro · « **Reply #621 on:** March 20, 2021, 08:59:02 pm »

Uodate: now the scope application boots again and frontpanel is reactive, still internal and external screens are dead.
Dors anybody know how to clear cmos? I removed the battery already for 1h with no external power applied, but that does not seem to help.

Xyphro · « **Reply #622 on:** March 21, 2021, 11:10:18 am »

I left the TDS7104 unpowered and without CMOS battery over night.
Result: The PC board does not boot at all anymore, also the push power button on the frontpanel does not power the scope on anymore. When I bridge the power on jumper, it turns on, als the CPU fan rotates, probing some caps on the PC board shows nice expected voltages.

All power supplies are present, also standby voltage.

I am very close to say: I am done with the scope, looking how often I already repaird stuff.
Anybody close to Germany wants a nice neverending hobby project? :-)

Edit: The Debug console of PPC seems dead, when I power on with the power_on jumper. The 7 segment led shows an 8 permanently.

Xyphro · « **Reply #623 on:** March 21, 2021, 01:00:22 pm »

Probed several signals on the NLX riser card.

PWOK (input to NLX) is signalling, that power is OK
#FPReset is high, so the NLX board is not kept permanently in RESET
Voltages are all present
The SOFT_ON/OFF# signal is correctly going low, when the frontpanel power pushbutton is pressed
PS_ON# output from NLX goes correctly LOW

I guess, I need a new NLX board :-(

Johnny10 · « **Reply #624 on:** March 21, 2021, 01:32:29 pm »

On Saturday, the CMOS battery died on my second 7104.
It blanked the TDS7104 screen and kept me from getting into BIOS.
Battery was dated 1995.

Replaced battery.

Access the VGA connector in back with separate monitor.
You need to install KILLCMOS application on floppy MS-DOS start-up disk.
I used a 2SHD 1.44MB High Density floppy on a XP OS machine.
When formatting disk there is a check for create MS-DOS disk.

Online I downloaded a KILLCMOS program. (https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/killcmos.html)
Extracted file and installed on floppy.

Boot from the floppy type dir in the command line.
Find and and run KILLCMOS .

CTRL Alt Delete
F2 Setup
Your BIOS is now accessible.
Change config of BIOS to default settings.
Change Display to PCI
Save and restart oscilloscope.


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