Author Topic: Software setup/Mainboard change for Agilent 16900A/16902A/16903A logic analyzer (Read 35029 times)

ingowien · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2019, 05:45:54 pm »

In my tests all tested software versions (4.40, 5.40, 5.60, 5.70, 5.80, 5.90) worked with XP and the original mainboard (ADLINK M-815G).
But only 4.40, 5.40, 5.60 worked with any changed C2D mainboard (XP and Win7-x32). Versions 5.70, 5.80 and 5.90 did not work with any other mainboard than the original mainboard. Problem was that all drivers installed fine but simply the cards were not accepted (No valid ID in frame). My assumption is that some kind of hardware locking or compatibility check as added in the later versions.

I've not seen any real compatibility or stability issue in any mainboard (E8400, E6400, Q9400). No BSOD, nothing. Except that you might end up with "no valid ID in frame". And there might be limits when operating two different VGA cards in parallel where one runs the old XP driver.

gslick · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2019, 07:34:29 pm »

Below is an enumeration of all of the hardware devices on the M-890 motherboard system in my 16901A, as seen by Windows.

One interesting device is the PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282 "Agilent Technologies device-side USB". That is a NetChip / PLX 2282, which is a USB device controller, not a USB host controller. I wonder what that is connected to, it would have to be another USB host controller somewhere in the system.

There is a PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28 Texas Instruments PCI2050 PCI-to-PCI Bridge, and behind that the PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505 "Agilent Technologies 16800/16900 Series Analyzer (PCI-to-SVY)". Both of those devices might be on the PCI add-in card. I'll have to take a look at it. The PCI-to-SVY is the interface to the logic analyzer module backplane.

There is also an Agilent driver "AgtSMBusIch" for PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30 "Intel(R) ICH10 Family Agilent SMBus Controller - 3A30", maybe for talking to devices on the motherboard SMBus.

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+ DeviceID:
| HTREE\ROOT\0
| + DeviceID:
| | ROOT\ACPI_HAL\0000
| | HardwareIDs:
| | ->acpiapic
| | CompatibleIDs:
| | ->DETECTEDInternal\ACPI_HAL
| | ->DETECTED\ACPI_HAL
| | Device Description:
| | ->ACPI x64-based PC
| | Service:
| | ->\Driver\ACPI_HAL
| | + DeviceID:
| | | ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0
| | | HardwareIDs:
| | | ->ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08
| | | ->*PNP0C08
| | | Device Description:
| | | ->Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
| | | Service:
| | | ->ACPI
| | | + DeviceID:
| | | | ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_INTEL64_FAMILY_6_MODEL_23_-_INTEL(R)_CORE(TM)2_DUO_CPU_____E8400__@_3.00GHZ\_1
| | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6_Model_23
| | | | ->*GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6_Model_23
| | | | ->ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6
| | | | ->*GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6
| | | | ->ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64
| | | | ->*GenuineIntel_-_Intel64
| | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\Processor
| | | | Device Description:
| | | | ->Intel Processor
| | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | ->Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz
| | | | Service:
| | | | ->intelppm
| | | + DeviceID:
| | | | ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_INTEL64_FAMILY_6_MODEL_23_-_INTEL(R)_CORE(TM)2_DUO_CPU_____E8400__@_3.00GHZ\_2
| | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6_Model_23
| | | | ->*GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6_Model_23
| | | | ->ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6
| | | | ->*GenuineIntel_-_Intel64_Family_6
| | | | ->ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_Intel64
| | | | ->*GenuineIntel_-_Intel64
| | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\Processor
| | | | Device Description:
| | | | ->Intel Processor
| | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | ->Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz
| | | | Service:
| | | | ->intelppm
| | | + DeviceID:
| | | | ACPI\PNP0A08\0
| | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\PNP0A08
| | | | ->*PNP0A08
| | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | ->*PNP0A03
| | | | Device Description:
| | | | ->PCI bus
| | | | Service:
| | | | ->pci
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&SUBSYS_2E108086&REV_03\3&11583659&0&00
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&SUBSYS_2E108086&REV_03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&SUBSYS_2E108086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&CC_060000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&CC_0600
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&REV_03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_060000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0600
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060000
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0600
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) 4 Series Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 2E10
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&SUBSYS_2E128086&REV_03\3&11583659&0&10
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&SUBSYS_2E128086&REV_03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&SUBSYS_2E128086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&CC_030000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&CC_0300
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&REV_03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_030000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_030000
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0300
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) Q45/Q43 Express Chipset
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->igfx
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | DISPLAY\MS_9001\4&2631CC80&1&UID67568640
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->MONITOR\MS_9001
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->*PNP09FF
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Generic PnP Monitor
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->monitor
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&SUBSYS_2E128086&REV_03\3&11583659&0&11
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&SUBSYS_2E128086&REV_03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&SUBSYS_2E128086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&CC_038000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&CC_0380
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&REV_03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_038000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0380
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_038000
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0380
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) Q45/Q43 Express Chipset
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->igfx
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&SUBSYS_3A378086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D0
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&SUBSYS_3A378086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&SUBSYS_3A378086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&CC_0C03
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A37
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->usbuhci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | USB\ROOT_HUB\4&42BF6F&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A37&REV0000
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A37
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->USB Root Hub
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->usbhub
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&SUBSYS_3A3C8086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D7
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&SUBSYS_3A3C8086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&SUBSYS_3A3C8086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&CC_0C0320
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&CC_0C03
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0320
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0320
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A3C
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->usbehci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&33750BA2&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB20&VID8086&PID3A3C&REV0000
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB20&VID8086&PID3A3C
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB20
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->USB Root Hub
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->usbhub
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_0700144A&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D8
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_0700144A&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_0700144A
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&CC_040300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&CC_0403
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_040300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0403
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_040300&DT_9
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_040300
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0403&DT_9
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0403
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->High Definition Audio Controller
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->HDAudBus
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_144A0000&REV_1002\4&3187122E&1&0101
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_144A0000&REV_1002
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_144A0000
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&CTLR_DEV_3A3E&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&REV_1002
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&REV_1002
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&REV_1002
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&CTLR_DEV_3A3E&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&CTLR_DEV_3A3E&VEN_10EC
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&VEN_10EC
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086&CTLR_DEV_3A3E
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&CTLR_VEN_8086
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&GF&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_144A0000&REV_1002
| | | | | | ->HDAUDIO\FUNC_01
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Realtek High Definition Audio
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->IntcAzAudAddService
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&SUBSYS_3A408086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E0
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&SUBSYS_3A408086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&SUBSYS_3A408086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&CC_060400
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&CC_0604
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_060400
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0604
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060400&DT_4
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060400
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0604&DT_4
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0604
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3A40
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->pci
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&SUBSYS_3A488086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E4
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&SUBSYS_3A488086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&SUBSYS_3A488086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&CC_060400
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&CC_0604
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_060400
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0604
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060400&DT_4
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060400
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0604&DT_4
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0604
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 3A48
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->pci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3&SUBSYS_00008086&REV_00\003064FFFF0EF72300
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3&SUBSYS_00008086&REV_00
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3&SUBSYS_00008086
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3&CC_020000
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3&CC_0200
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3&REV_00
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10D3
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_020000
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0200
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_020000&DT_0
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_020000
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0200&DT_0
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0200
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Intel(R) 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->e1qexpress
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&SUBSYS_3A348086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E8
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&SUBSYS_3A348086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&SUBSYS_3A348086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&CC_0C03
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A34
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->usbuhci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1D102352&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A34&REV0000
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A34
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->USB Root Hub
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->usbhub
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&SUBSYS_3A358086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E9
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&SUBSYS_3A358086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&SUBSYS_3A358086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&CC_0C03
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A35
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->usbuhci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | USB\ROOT_HUB\4&F97D3BB&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A35&REV0000
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A35
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->USB Root Hub
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->usbhub
| | | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | | USB\VID_07DD&PID_0001\5&34A2064A&0&2
| | | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | | ->USB\VID_07DD&PID_0001&REV_8023
| | | | | | | ->USB\VID_07DD&PID_0001
| | | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | | ->USB\Class_03&SubClass_01&Prot_02
| | | | | | | ->USB\Class_03&SubClass_01
| | | | | | | ->USB\Class_03
| | | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | | ->USB HID Touch Screen Controller
| | | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | | ->HidUsb
| | | | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | | | HID\VID_07DD&PID_0001\6&30FFB929&1&0000
| | | | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | | | ->HID\VID_07DD&PID_0001&REV_8023
| | | | | | | | ->HID\VID_07DD&PID_0001
| | | | | | | | ->HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_MOUSE
| | | | | | | | ->HID_DEVICE_UP:0001_U:0002
| | | | | | | | ->HID_DEVICE
| | | | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | | | ->USB Touch Screen Controller
| | | | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | | | ->mouhid
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&SUBSYS_3A368086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&EA
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&SUBSYS_3A368086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&SUBSYS_3A368086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&CC_0C03
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0300
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A36
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->usbuhci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | USB\ROOT_HUB\4&7D61B93&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A36&REV0000
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID3A36
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->USB Root Hub
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->usbhub
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&SUBSYS_3A3A8086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&EF
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&SUBSYS_3A3A8086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&SUBSYS_3A3A8086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&CC_0C0320
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&CC_0C03
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0320
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0320
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A3A
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->usbehci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&1F9F9DFB&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB20&VID8086&PID3A3A&REV0000
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB20&VID8086&PID3A3A
| | | | | | ->USB\ROOT_HUB20
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->USB Root Hub
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->usbhub
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_244E8086&REV_90\3&11583659&0&F0
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_244E8086&REV_90
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_244E8086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&CC_060401
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&CC_0604
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&REV_90
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_060401
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0604
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060401
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0604
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->pci
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11\4&1D98F028&1&38F0
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_11
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282&SUBSYS_00000000
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282&REV_11
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282&CC_0C03FE
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&DEV_2282&CC_0C03
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&CC_0C03FE
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC&CC_0C03
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_17CC
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03FE
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C03
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Agilent Technologies device-side USB
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->Agt2280
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\4&1D98F028&1&78F0
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28&SUBSYS_00000000
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28&REV_00
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28&CC_060400
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_AC28&CC_0604
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&CC_060400
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C&CC_0604
| | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_104C
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_060400
| | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0604
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->pci
| | | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | | PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\5&19F0F871&0&0078F0
| | | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505&SUBSYS_00000000
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505&REV_00
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505&CC_0B4000
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&DEV_0505&CC_0B40
| | | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&CC_0B4000
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC&CC_0B40
| | | | | | | ->PCI\VEN_15BC
| | | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0B4000
| | | | | | | ->PCI\CC_0B40
| | | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | | ->Agilent Technologies 16800/16900 Series Analyzer (PCI-to-SVY)
| | | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | | ->ag16900Svy
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18&SUBSYS_3A188086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&F8
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18&SUBSYS_3A188086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18&SUBSYS_3A188086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18&CC_060100
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18&CC_0601
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A18
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_060100
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0601
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_060100
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0601
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 LPC Interface Controller - 3A18
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->msisadrv
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0000\4&7A6EE5B&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0000
| | | | | | ->*PNP0000
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Programmable interrupt controller
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0200\4&7A6EE5B&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0200
| | | | | | ->*PNP0200
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Direct memory access controller
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0100\4&7A6EE5B&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0100
| | | | | | ->*PNP0100
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->System timer
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0B00\4&7A6EE5B&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0B00
| | | | | | ->*PNP0B00
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->System CMOS/real time clock
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0800\4&7A6EE5B&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0800
| | | | | | ->*PNP0800
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->System speaker
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0C04\4&7A6EE5B&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C04
| | | | | | ->*PNP0C04
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Numeric data processor
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0501\1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0501
| | | | | | ->*PNP0501
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Communications Port
| | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | ->Communications Port (COM1)
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->Serial
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0501\2
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0501
| | | | | | ->*PNP0501
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Communications Port
| | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | ->Communications Port (COM2)
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->Serial
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0C02\2E
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C02
| | | | | | ->*PNP0C02
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Motherboard resources
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0C02\10
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C02
| | | | | | ->*PNP0C02
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Motherboard resources
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | ACPI\PNP0C02\0
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C02
| | | | | | ->*PNP0C02
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->Motherboard resources
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_3A208086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FA
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_3A208086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_3A208086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&CC_01018A
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&CC_0101
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_01018A
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_01018A
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0101
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->pciide
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&17C62592&1&0
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->Intel-3a20
| | | | | | ->Internal_IDE_Channel
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->*PNP0600
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->IDE Channel
| | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | ->ATA Channel 0
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->atapi
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&17C62592&1&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->Intel-3a20
| | | | | | ->Internal_IDE_Channel
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->*PNP0600
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->IDE Channel
| | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | ->ATA Channel 1
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->atapi
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&SUBSYS_3A308086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FB
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&SUBSYS_3A308086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&SUBSYS_3A308086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&CC_0C0500
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&CC_0C05
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0500
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C05
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C0500
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0C05
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family Agilent SMBus Controller - 3A30
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->AgtSMBusIch
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_3A268086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FD
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_3A268086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_3A268086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&CC_010185
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&CC_0101
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_010185
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_010185
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_0101
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
| | | | | Service:
| | | | | ->pciide
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&306AF12D&1&0
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->Intel-3a26
| | | | | | ->Internal_IDE_Channel
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->*PNP0600
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->IDE Channel
| | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | ->ATA Channel 0
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->atapi
| | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&306AF12D&1&1
| | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | ->Intel-3a26
| | | | | | ->Internal_IDE_Channel
| | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | ->*PNP0600
| | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | ->IDE Channel
| | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | ->ATA Channel 1
| | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | ->atapi
| | | | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | | | IDE\DISKWDC_WD5000BPKX-00HPJT0__________________01.01A01\5&3551BD61&0&1.0.0
| | | | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | | | ->IDE\DiskWDC_WD5000BPKX-00HPJT0__________________01.01A01
| | | | | | | ->IDE\WDC_WD5000BPKX-00HPJT0__________________01.01A01
| | | | | | | ->IDE\DiskWDC_WD5000BPKX-00HPJT0__________________
| | | | | | | ->WDC_WD5000BPKX-00HPJT0__________________01.01A01
| | | | | | | ->GenDisk
| | | | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | | | ->GenDisk
| | | | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | | | ->Disk drive
| | | | | | | Friendly Name:
| | | | | | | ->WDC WD5000BPKX-00HPJT0 ATA Device
| | | | | | | Service:
| | | | | | | ->disk
| | | | | | | Drive Name C:
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32&SUBSYS_3A328086&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FE
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32&SUBSYS_3A328086&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32&SUBSYS_3A328086
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32&CC_118000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32&CC_1180
| | | | | CompatibleIDs:
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32&REV_00
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A32
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_118000
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086&CC_1180
| | | | | ->PCI\VEN_8086
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_118000
| | | | | ->PCI\CC_1180
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Intel(R) ICH10 Family Thermal Subsystem - 3A32
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | ACPI\PNP0C01\A
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C01
| | | | | ->*PNP0C01
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->System board
| | | | + DeviceID:
| | | | | ACPI\PNP0C02\11
| | | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C02
| | | | | ->*PNP0C02
| | | | | Device Description:
| | | | | ->Motherboard resources
| | | + DeviceID:
| | | | ACPI\PNP0C01\1
| | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C01
| | | | ->*PNP0C01
| | | | Device Description:
| | | | ->System board
| | | + DeviceID:
| | | | ACPI\PNP0C0C\AA
| | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\PNP0C0C
| | | | ->*PNP0C0C
| | | | Device Description:
| | | | ->ACPI Power Button
| | | + DeviceID:
| | | | ACPI\FIXEDBUTTON\2&DABA3FF&1
| | | | HardwareIDs:
| | | | ->ACPI\FixedButton
| | | | ->*FixedButton
| | | | Device Description:
| | | | ->ACPI Fixed Feature Button

gslick · « **Reply #27 on:** April 03, 2019, 08:21:03 pm »

Attached is a quick image of the M-890 motherboard as installed in my 16901A. I could try to take a higher resolution photo sometime, although it might be a while before I got around to trying to do that.

Installed in the single PCI slot is the interface to the logic analyzer module backplane.

The service manual shows a second PCI display card, which is not present here. With the M-890 motherboard the front panel LCD display connects directly to the LVDS connector on the M-890 motherboard.

The dual port USB cable connection to the M-890 motherboard goes to the two USB ports on the front panel.

The single port USB cable connection to the M-890 motherboard goes to the font panel touch screen controller.

Other than the CPU and Q45/Q43 and ICH10 chipset under the heatsinks, the interesting components on the M-890 motherboard are the following:

ICS (IDT) ICS9LP505-2 56-pin CK505 for Intel Desktop Systems
ITE IT8718F-S Environment Control - Low Pin Count Input / Output (EC - LPC I/O)
Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Chrontel CH7308B-TF SDVO LVDS Transmitter (for front panel LCD display)
Chrontel CH7318C-BF AC Coupled HDMI Level Shifter (for external DVI connector)
Realtek ALC262 4-Channel High Definition Audio Codec
PLX NET2282 PCI to Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Controller (no idea how this is used in this system)
(2x) Unigen UG25U6400M8DU-ACB 2GB DDR3 1333 UDIMM 240PIN

EDIT: The Agilent / Keysight part number for the M-890 motherboard is 0960-2939. Keysight Find-A-Part says this motherboard is used in the following Logic Analyzers and 9000 Series Oscilloscopes. My guess is that the PLX NET2282 PCI to Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Controller on the M-890 motherboard is not used in the Logic Analyzer application, but is used to provide the USB device port for control from a PC in the 9000 Series Oscilloscope application.

16800AU
16801A
16802A
16803A
16804A
16806A
16821A
16822A
16823A
16851A
16852A
16853A
16854A
16900AU
16901A
16902B
DSO9024H
DSO9054H
DSO9064A
DSO9064L
DSO9104A
DSO9104AN
DSO9104H
DSO9204H
DSO9254A
DSO9404A
MSO9064A
MSO9104A
MSO9254A
MSO9404A

keitheevblog · « **Reply #28 on:** April 04, 2019, 04:30:40 am »

MY XP 5.90.1110 16900A has the following entries under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\AgMachineInfo :

FrameModelNumber, REG_SZ "16900"
NoDisplaySwitching, REG_SZ "false"
Ag16900Standalone, REG_DWORD 1
SysReady, REG_DWORD 1

agLogicSvc.exe throws "NO VALID ID DETECTED IN FRAME!" error that occurs whenever the main HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\AgMachineInfo key doesn't exist in the registry.

There are other versions of that error that have "REQUIRES FACTORY HARDWARE INITIALIZATION!" or "REQUIRES PROPER SYSTEM BIOS!" suffixes which is related to the checking of the "SecureId" key, which I don't seem to have anywhere. You could also get a "SYSTEM FILTER DRIVER MISSING! Re-install logic analyzer software or run [agHwInstall -install] from the logic analyzer installation directory." error in some cases.

Last but not least, a "MfgOnly" key when set throws "MANUFACTURING-ONLY SETTINGS ACTIVE!"

keitheevblog · « **Reply #29 on:** April 04, 2019, 04:56:52 am »

Hey Glen,

Thanks

It looks a lot like this Adlink Tech M-321 here:

https://www.prosoft.ru/cms/f/441897.pdf

no?

Keith

gslick · « **Reply #30 on:** April 04, 2019, 07:37:08 am »

Quote from: keitheevblog on April 04, 2019, 04:56:52 am

It looks a lot like this Adlink Tech M-321 here:

https://www.prosoft.ru/cms/f/441897.pdf

Yep, that does look like a match, or at least a customized build of the M-321. Good find.

These are the differences I noticed between the M-321 manual and the M-890 motherboard:

The M-890 version only populates one Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet Controller, not two.
The M-890 version does not populate the CN5 LVDS Inverter connector next to the CN6 LVDS connector.
The M-890 version populates two additional SATA connectors next to the PCI slot which are not populated on the M-321 version. On the cover photo of the manual linked above it appears that they just pasted green rectangles on the photo where those additional two SATA connectors are located.

I wonder if it is any easier to find an ADLINK M-321 motherboard than an M-890 motherboard. A quick look on the net doesn't turn up any available anywhere.

EDIT: The two additional SATA connectors next to the PCI slot on the M-890 version are not SATA, they are PCI-e. They are not used in the 16901A / 16902B application, but they are used in the 9000 Series Oscilloscope application to connect to the signal acquisition system. See this thread for more details about that:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/agilentkeysight-infiniium-mso9000-series-motherboard-repairupgrade/

keitheevblog · « **Reply #31 on:** April 04, 2019, 05:32:26 pm »

I couldn't seem to find any sources. However, I am starting to believe that there aren't many hardware restrictions at all.

I did notice that your M890 board includes an extra 4-pin CPU power cord. My M815G definitely doesn't use it......just the 24-pin power cable to the backplane.

I'm not sure if anyone finds this interesting, but linked is a source-ish-code for how the "NO VALID ID DETECTED IN FRAME!" registry checking logic works specifically in agLogicSvc.exe :

https://pastebin.com/EgX1JBuZ

Thanks

ingowien · « **Reply #32 on:** April 04, 2019, 06:26:34 pm »

Quote from: keitheevblog on April 04, 2019, 05:32:26 pm

I did notice that your M890 board includes an extra 4-pin CPU power cord. My M815G definitely doesn't use it......just the 24-pin power cable to the backplane.

In my 16903 there is an extra 4pin power connector on the backplane with 2xGND + 2x+12V. I used that for the P4 power on the C2D board. The old P3 boards didn't have the extra power connector introduced with the first P4 CPUs.

However I'm sure you recognized that the 16900A/16902A/16903A are very different from the 16901A and 16902B.
The older hardware revision uses a parallel style LCD connected to an extra 65550 VGA card either on the back plane (16903A) or on the PCI card (16900A/16902A). The latter use an LVDS panel directly connected to the mainboard. So If unless you already have one of the newer analyzers (that probably has a more modern mainboard), a matching LVDS panel or an M-890 I think it would be easier to use a common C2D mainboard. None of the mainboards I found will fit the cutouts in the 1690xA backcover. Or did anybody find a mechanically suitable mainboard?

ingowien · « **Reply #33 on:** April 04, 2019, 08:21:22 pm »

Quote from: keitheevblog on April 04, 2019, 04:30:40 am

agLogicSvc.exe throws "NO VALID ID DETECTED IN FRAME!" error that occurs whenever the main HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\AgMachineInfo key doesn't exist in the registry.

I did a quick test with v5.90 on my 16903A with the Asus P5G41T-M LX, C2Q Q9400, Win7 Embedded Std with the registry key AgMachineInfo in place. Indeed I didn't get the "No valid ID" error but the service got stuck when initializing the hardware. I tried this two times with reverting to my running Acronis image between the tests confirming that v5.40 still works. Maybe the combination of Win7, the 16903A hardware and v5.90 doesn't work or some registry keys are still missing. I'll stick with v5.40 for now as Win7 and USB 3 support is more important for me than v5.90.

Maybe v5.40 or v5.60 it is a good starting point for other users as well. I think I installed v5.40 on my test machine as this is the last release before changing to .Net 4.0, no other special reason if I remember correctly.

keitheevblog · « **Reply #34 on:** April 04, 2019, 08:43:31 pm »

Quote from: ingowien on April 04, 2019, 06:26:34 pm

None of the mainboards I found will fit the cutouts in the 1690xA backcover. Or did anybody find a mechanically suitable mainboard?

I think that the parallel port on the back might be tough due to the fact that it's rarely used any more.

Depending on the existing layout, it may be possible to cut a standardized rectangular hole to accept a standard PC I/O shield. This way, 90% of the motherboards out there would be compatible with it. If done carefully, you could end up with a reasonable looking finished product.

I'm not in love with "taking a knife to" my analyzer, but this might work!

ingowien · « **Reply #35 on:** April 04, 2019, 08:52:55 pm »

Yes, that's what I did. The good thing is that the mainboard tray if the 16903A is not one piece but the back cover can be taken off. I used a fretsaw to preserve the original shield as good as possible but if you don't care, you can use a jigsaw as well. You have to be aware that mechanical assembly isn't that rigid any more as the original design relies on the serial/parallel port screws for additional strength. That is obviously not as rigid with the I/O shield but it works. It might be useful to add some extra screws on the bottom side for improved EMC compatibility but I didn't do that.
So yes, going for a standard ATX I/O shield is definitely the best option.

gslick · « **Reply #36 on:** April 08, 2019, 07:42:17 pm »

Quote from: ingowien on April 04, 2019, 08:21:22 pm

I did a quick test with v5.90 on my 16903A with the Asus P5G41T-M LX, C2Q Q9400, Win7 Embedded Std with the registry key AgMachineInfo in place.

What did you do about the motherboard power supply connections? The M-815G motherboard has a 20-pin ATX power supply connector, and no CPU power supply connector. The Asus P5G41T-M LX motherboard has a 24-pin ATX power supply connector and a 4-pin CPU power supply connector.

Did you just connect the 20-pin power supply plug from the 16903A power supply to 20 of the 24 pins of the Asus P5G41T-M LX motherboard power supply connector and call it good?

ingowien · « **Reply #37 on:** April 08, 2019, 07:57:14 pm »

Quote from: gslick on April 08, 2019, 07:42:17 pm

Did you just connect the 20-pin power supply plug from the 16903A power supply to 20 of the 24 pins of the Asus P5G41T-M LX motherboard power supply connector and call it good?

Yes. The additional 4 pins are just GND, 3V3, 5V and 12V. There are already 4x 5V and 3x 3V3 in place and 12V usually isn't the issue as the CPU has its own 12V P4 power. We're powering lots of Ci3 and Ci5 mainboards from PicoPSUs that only have 20 pins and never had an issue. Internal resistance may be lower with those as there are no cables but on the other hand they are less powerful than a 400W ATX supply. It might be an issue if lots of 12V PCIe power is required but that isn't the case here.

gslick · « **Reply #38 on:** April 08, 2019, 08:04:35 pm »

Thanks. I missed your earlier reply which answered the other part of my question.

Quote

In my 16903 there is an extra 4pin power connector on the backplane with 2xGND + 2x+12V. I used that for the P4 power on the C2D board.

The 16900A backplane also has the extra 4-pin power connector.

charlyd · « **Reply #39 on:** April 09, 2019, 05:00:54 pm »

Hello i have this Gigabyte-GA-6VTXDR with 2x 1.4GHZ tualatin cpu on it.. would it be good to give that a go? or is that also too slow? ok better a WIN7 or better of course..
but for the compatibility?

..mmmmmmmm too big board...

charlyd · « **Reply #40 on:** April 09, 2019, 05:03:01 pm »

anybody found out what SSD controller is the best? i see many models on ebay.. but i can imagine that some are a better choise then others..

charlyd · « **Reply #41 on:** April 10, 2019, 09:16:20 pm »

did some search on mobo's what about this one? GA-EQ45M-S2-rev-2.1 has lots of CPU support. and looks like the size of the M-890. has some sata connectors power con on the right place.

for CPU here: https://www.gigabyte.com/fi/Motherboard/GA-EQ45M-S2-rev-21#support-cpu
for mem here: http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/motherboard_memory_ga-eq45m-s2_v2.x.pdf

i decided to buy this board because it has a compatible chipset [Intel® Q45 + ICH10DO chipset ] as the M890.
one small difference is the TFT screen F65550 connector on the M890 board. but i will try to get the F65550 driver to work.

charlyd · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2019, 04:00:36 pm »

did any body find out a way to bypass or fake the message: " NO VALID ID DETECTED IN FRAME! REQUIRES PROPER SYSTEM BIOS "

i have got it also...would be nice to fool it. Is there a way to edit it into the bios files? i have the bios file from my current MoBo. Hexeditor can do the job.
i can export the bios from my M815-G with a programmer to get a valid ID out if it.

but where is it written and is it possible to "hack my Bios ;-) " or fool the check...

who can help me out with a link to the older versions... can i download them somewhere.

gslick · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2019, 10:12:35 pm »

Quote from: charlyd on May 06, 2019, 04:00:36 pm

did any body find out a way to bypass or fake the message: " NO VALID ID DETECTED IN FRAME! REQUIRES PROPER SYSTEM BIOS "

Are you currently running Windows XP or Windows 7 on the new motherboard? What version of the logic analyzer application are you trying when you get this error message?

Might be best to try to figure out what software binary is checking the motherboard signature. Maybe the binary could be patched to bypass the motherboard signature check.

keitheevblog · « **Reply #44 on:** May 07, 2019, 09:22:03 am »

I've done some work on this exact topic.

See reply #31.

AgLogicSvc.exe is responsible for displaying that message. I disassembled that binary using the NSA's Ghidra and then decompiled it into C++.

I don't claim to have a 100% grasp on it, however, the driving factors are a series of registry keys. And how the executable was configured (what was passed into it when called)

Look at that pastebin. Ctrl-f for your message, and look at that IF block.

Search your Registry for a key called SecureID. I'd also go back and reread my other message where I call out the other keys, and make sure they are in place.

There's another possibility that despite the messenger AgLogicSvc.exe reporting it there's some underlying reason why it can't or won't work.

That binary can be patched. But the registry keys seem to be the initial driving factor, and also the easiest to correct. I'd wait until that message is displayed and then without closing it, look for the keys mentioned.

Ingowien (sp on mobile) reports 5.60 working fine. It's versions 5.70 or after that throw that message. Unless you needed those features, you could probably just use an earlier version.

Keith

EDIT: make sure to check that AgMachineInfo and the subkey FrameModelNumber is present and has a value. It sure looks like that message can't be displayed if those two things are true! I'm away and on mobile, but that looks right! Check the pastebin and the previous message with keys for details.

charlyd · « **Reply #45 on:** May 10, 2019, 02:04:53 pm »

@Glen, i am running Windows XP sp 3 ( fresh install ) and LA version 5.90 i f i have earlier version which i do not have ( maybe someone can advertise a goolge-drive link with all version downloadable.

@ keitheevblog ok i will test it is you have a new exe file available.

tonight i wil look for the "secureID" in de registry from the M815G board.

charlyd · « **Reply #46 on:** May 11, 2019, 09:22:48 am »

@ keitheevblog is it an idea to also look inside version 5.6 and compare to 5.9 look how they did error handling/the check inside 5.6 and edit it like that in 5.9 ? and then compile again?

:edit: not found any secureID key in the registry.

and agHWinstall says in the bottom of the checks none

verifying harddrive image N/A does this matter? does the software check if the install is from the image?

after checking this settings
MY XP 5.90.1110 16900A has the following entries under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\AgMachineInfo :

FrameModelNumber, REG_SZ "16900"
NoDisplaySwitching, REG_SZ "false"
Ag16900Standalone, REG_DWORD 1
SysReady, REG_DWORD 1

after the check has ran and not finished succesfull : the FrameModelnumber value changes to 169 "00" are gone and not possible to edit.. but i can delete the entry
and add it again...

strange..

What more can i test???

another problem i have is i cannot restore the original image on a disk and boot up on the new board. the new drive is SATA fresh install works fine but the agilent image and sata drives..not. i disabled AHCI and setted the bios in legacy mode. still not.

so i am curious if an older version of the LA software would work so here an other call can someone share his older LA version(s) with me..?

charlyd · « **Reply #47 on:** May 27, 2019, 11:23:01 am »

can somebody help me out with a picture of the original powerswitch connector on the M815G board site from the 16903A
the 4 pin cable with the wiring

1. blue
2. black
3. yellow
4. orange

i made some pictures before i started but i think i deleted them on my phone

a close up picture of the M815G MoBo side would be enough if you coloring is the same as mine. ( it has the metal plate over it)

It sound like a silly question but one way or an other my upgrade (refurbished) MoBo died after few days working from reverse wiring

?

ingowien · « **Reply #48 on:** May 27, 2019, 09:16:02 pm »

All I can show is a picture of the connector that was attached to my M815G board. It's unmodified as I always create adapter cables. It matches the labeling on the M185G board (CN21).
Hope this helps.

charlyd · « **Reply #49 on:** May 28, 2019, 07:04:25 am »

many thanks @ingowien this is very clear for me. now i gonna work out what exactly happend because from what i see i only had the both GND in the middle swapped. but that doesn t make much difference …( of course i will correct them). from the other hand Glen also showed me some pictures from connectors and his middle wires were both black. (gnd- colors) earlier model LA.
From out of the factory it is so easy to use the same wiring colors - as produced before- if there is 100% no difference, but no they changed it for yellow instead of black. Does this mean anything, like you are not allowed to pretend they are both 100% same? (something like one is GND and the other is "GND".)

@ingowien: did you work out the touch screen on the comport?


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