Siglent's new product- MSO/SDS2000 Series

[Hydrawerk]

As Marmad has said, this is the very forst DPO made by Siglent... It can have many bugs. If they want many people to buy it, they must send one scope to Dave first.
(Rigol produces DPO scopes DS6000 since 2010 or so...)

[kebogen]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent's-new-product-msosds2000-series/?action=dlattach;attach=73968;image

rf-loop, the earthquake wave looks nice, is it output by the option AWG function?
I have a SDG1050, it cost me $440 on ebay ndtsuppliers.It's built in earthquake wave, and can use easywave to redact anything I want, the AWG function on sds2000 can use easyscope or maybe easywave to redact arbitrary waveform?
I just wonder if the performance of AWG option is closed to sdg1050, I will put my sdg1050 on sale, and pay more several hundreds to get in return a sds2102.

[tautech]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent's-new-product-msosds2000-series/?action=dlattach;attach=73968;image

rf-loop, the earthquake wave looks nice, is it output by the option AWG function?
I have a SDG1050, it cost me $440 on ebay ndtsuppliers.It's built in earthquake wave, and can use easywave to redact anything I want, the AWG function on sds2000 can use easyscope or maybe easywave to redact arbitrary waveform?
I just wonder if the performance of AWG option is closed to sdg1050, I will put my sdg1050 on sale, and pay more several hundreds to get in return a sds2102.

The SDS2000 series AWG option maximum frequency is 25 MHz. Minimum 1 uHz.
Sadly we have not yet received software and do not know if SDS2000 can operate with Easywave.
AWG ouputs are as follows: Sine 25 MHz, Square/Pulse 10 MHz, Ramp 300 kHz, DC, Noise >20 MHz, Cardiac 5 MHz, Gaus Pulse 5 MHz, Exp rise 5 MHz, Exp Fall 5 MHz

However it can not Modulate as your SDG can, but we as yet do not know what the software will add in functionality.

[kebogen]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent's-new-product-msosds2000-series/?action=dlattach;attach=73968;image

rf-loop, the earthquake wave looks nice, is it output by the option AWG function?
I have a SDG1050, it cost me $440 on ebay ndtsuppliers.It's built in earthquake wave, and can use easywave to redact anything I want, the AWG function on sds2000 can use easyscope or maybe easywave to redact arbitrary waveform?
I just wonder if the performance of AWG option is closed to sdg1050, I will put my sdg1050 on sale, and pay more several hundreds to get in return a sds2102.
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The SDS2000 series AWG option maximum frequency is 25 MHz. Minimum 1 uHz.
Sadly we have not yet received software and do not know if SDS2000 can operate with Easywave.
AWG ouputs are as follows: Sine 25 MHz, Square/Pulse 10 MHz, Ramp 300 kHz, DC, Noise >20 MHz, Cardiac 5 MHz, Gaus Pulse 5 MHz, Exp rise 5 MHz, Exp Fall 5 MHz

However it can not Modulate as your SDG can, but we as yet do not know what the software will add in functionality.
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That's nice.
But it just can finish the simple test, so I still need my SDG1050. The SDG1050 is a really nice product, it can operate very easy, especially it has independent key to change the waveform type.

[rf-loop]

But it just can finish the simple test, so I still need my SDG1050. The SDG1050 is a really nice product, it can operate very easy, especially it has independent key to change the waveform type.

Signal generator implemented in SDS2000 series oscilloscope is not as full version of single channel SDG1025.  It can also see on the scope mainboard. (I have disassembled whole scope for some  investigations and image documents... so I can not run now any tests... but..
I have now other very urgent and busy working project and whole SDS2034 case need wait free time for continue testing.
Later I will show some internal details.
BTW, as typical for Siglent, also this have real glass over TFT.
Internal metal base is nearly all quite thick aluminium plate (exept some EMI shieldings, as example front ends and PSU shield). Best mechanical construction from Siglent what I have previously seen.

[Carrington]

News, MSO sample rate is 500MSa/s.

Source: http://www.siglent.eu/oscilloscopes/sds-2000-series/mso-sds2304-300mhz-4-channel.html

[kebogen]

Signal generator implemented in SDS2000 series oscilloscope is not as full version of single channel SDG1025.  It can also see on the scope mainboard. (I have disassembled whole scope for some  investigations and image documents... so I can not run now any tests... but..
I have now other very urgent and busy working project and whole SDS2034 case need wait free time for continue testing.
Later I will show some internal details.
BTW, as typical for Siglent, also this have real glass over TFT.
Internal metal base is nearly all quite thick aluminium plate (exept some EMI shieldings, as example front ends and PSU shield). Best mechanical construction from Siglent what I have previously seen.
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Looking forward your test result, the generator function is more useful to me then MSO or other some.
I haven't ever disassembled my siglent SDG1050, maybe I should do that, to get more info.
And I think it is SDS2304, not SDS2034.

[Terry]

News, MSO sample rate is 500MSa/s.

Source: http://www.siglent.eu/oscilloscopes/sds-2000-series/mso-sds2304-300mhz-4-channel.html

Yeah, very nice.
But the 70MHz and 100MHz models are out of stock.http://www.siglent.eu/oscilloscopes/sds-2000-series.html

[marmad]

Yeah, very nice.
But the 70MHz and 100MHz models are out of stock.http://www.siglent.eu/oscilloscopes/sds-2000-series.html

If you're reading this thread, you should be aware that Siglent is still working on the DSO (it hasn't been released - at least not in the West) - so there is NO stock on ANY models, regardless of what is listed on any website.

[Altemir]

In Russia we can get it now: News and AKIP-4126/1. "?" as "AKIP" (translit) - this is a Prist's "brand" Thea are sell some other brands under its own brand.

[marmad]

In Russia we can get it now: News and AKIP-4126/1. "?" as "AKIP" (translit) - this is a Prist's "brand" Thea are sell some other brands under its own brand.

But I don't understand how news or advertisements for sale equal a guarantee of being able to get it immediately. Companies misrepresent the availability of products all the time - even going so far as to advertise "stock" when there is none. Until someone who doesn't work for or sell Siglents has there hands on one and publishes information about it, it remains undetermined.

[Carrington]

According to the datasheet the LA has 8 channels with 28Mp/ch. 

Sorry it's in Russian: 
http://www.prist.ru/produces/pdf/akip-4126.pdf

[kebogen]

According to the datasheet the LA has 8 channels with 28Mp/ch. 

Sorry it's in Russian: 
http://www.prist.ru/produces/pdf/akip-4126.pdf

I don't think so, 28Mpts just for analog channels, but I don't know the memory deep about the digital channels from datasheet, maybe 28/8?

[z01z]

I don't think so, 28Mpts just for analog channels, but I don't know the memory deep about the digital channels from datasheet, maybe 28/8?

I fail to see why storing 8 bits of LA data should be different from storing 8 bits of A/D data. You should have the same memory available.
Another question is, how the memory is allocated in mixed mode.

[z01z]

I've spotted this on youtube.

What caught my eye is the MSO port, it's missing.

[Hydrawerk]

Well, many people have seen that a month ago, or so.

[kebogen]

I don't think so, 28Mpts just for analog channels, but I don't know the memory deep about the digital channels from datasheet, maybe 28/8?

I fail to see why storing 8 bits of LA data should be different from storing 8 bits of A/D data. You should have the same memory available.
Another question is, how the memory is allocated in mixed mode.

Sorry, I don't know.

[Herman]

Hey, I have tried the latest firmware of SDS2000, the software version is 1.1.1.26.2
This version change a lot. It has 12 types of menu language to choose, and add the history function and the sequence function,
add 28Mpts memory depth(1ms/div to 50s/div, not only 1ms/div).
The history and sequence function can reach to 80,000 frames, that is wonderful.

[marmad]

Hey, I have tried the latest firmware of SDS2000, the software version is 1.1.1.26.2
This version change a lot. It has 12 types of menu language to choose, and add the history function and the sequence function,
add 28Mpts memory depth(1ms/div to 50s/div, not only 1ms/div).
The history and sequence function can reach to 80,000 frames, that is wonderful.

So it has been sold in China for > 12 weeks without these functions?

[Hydrawerk]

Why not, my DSOX2002A has been sold for more than 1 year with useless Serial button. Then a new firmware came...

[marmad]

Why not, my DSOX2002A has been sold for more than 1 year with useless Serial button. Then a new firmware came...

Not comparable at all. These functions have been specified in the datasheet. Which missing function did the datasheet of your Agilent say was attached to that button?

[Hydrawerk]

Okay, it is not comparable...

[Carrington]

@ Herman:
How much time takes the re-arm (re-arm time) between segmented frames?
Thanks.

[Herman]

@ Herman:
How much time takes the re-arm (re-arm time) between segmented frames?
Thanks.

I haven't done a complete test, just have the printscreen. I haven't found the time about sequence,
but the time between history frames is about 25ms.

[Mark_O]

@ Herman:
How much time takes the re-arm (re-arm time) between segmented frames?
Thanks.

I haven't done a complete test, just have the printscreen. I haven't found the time about sequence,
but the time between history frames is about 25ms.

First off, when I saw 25ms gaps, I said "ewww".  Luckily you turned List on, and it's really 25us (sometimes 26).  That's respectable.  I'm also glad to see it has a List, where you can check the frame time-stamps.   

Lastly, the 80,000 frames is very good.  But I'm not clear what the difference is between History and Sequence modes?

Added:  Is History like a dynamic, rolling Sequence mode?