Siglent They filed a "wrongful trademark claim"

[tautech]

Get that sucker listed on ebay!

 

My list is US$1640 and with CATII 1000V and CATIII 600V full isolation and 3 year warranty what would he replace it with?

Just asking?

[TheSteve]

Anything non-Siglent of course.

More then anything it was a joke, I was thinking he should really list it before they start killing auctions again.

The OP may have been bought off with a scope, the rest of us are free to have a bench that is "Siglent Free".

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

Get that sucker listed on ebay!

 

My list is US$1640 and with CATII 1000V and CATIII 600V full isolation and 3 year warranty what would he replace it with?

Just asking?

It good specs for what it is, so zero reason to sell it and was already looking for a good isolated handheld scope way before this mess.

Wasn't bought off, as didn't even ask, they offer it and without asking any demands. Plus eBay already restricted them due to what they did. So they won't be likely doing the same anymore.

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

..Don't turn it on; take it apart?
 

That coming soon, when I have more time.

[VK5RC]

Good outcome,  now isn't there a 3458a awaiting? And a nice isolated scope would be very helpful! ?

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

Good outcome,  now isn't there a 3458a awaiting? And a nice isolated scope would be very helpful! ?

That HP 3458a is next project, after I finish the 2465, which is working and fixed HV issue now just have to fix channel 2 issues, just have to replace channel 2 pre-amp IC, which I already ordered. All other channels works and then will start on the HP 3458A, which really want to start on. There will be a another huge detail thread on the 3458A, as doing a full rebuilt like TiN did recently. 

[tec5c]

Of course it was just a joke 

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

Of course it was just a joke 

What kind of funny was at first they were going to sent me a another SDG2122X to sell even, but told them I had bought one already and whole reason I sold the older model arbitrary function generator in the first place. So they told me you can sell it on eBay then and I laugh about that. Then they offer the scope instead and since had a good mixed signal bench scope already and don't really care for the Siglent SDS1000X, or SDS2000 scopes, just when with a handheld instead, as was looking already for a decent isolated scope.

[uski]

It's very common for chinese companies to sell in china at a much lower price than in western countries.
That only works if those companies can somehow control who sells their products, otherwise someone could buy products in china and sell them in the US at the chinese price. This is a price control scheme.

[nctnico]

It seems the people at Siglent have realised they have made a very big mistake!

[crispy_tofu]

It seems the people at Siglent have realised they have made a very big mistake!

I think they lost quite a few customers because of these shananigans... 

[Wuerstchenhund]

It seems the people at Siglent have realised they have made a very big mistake!

That most certainly was no mistake, and they very likely knew very well what they did.

However, it seems they managed to come off pretty easy this time, so good for them.

[Ian.M]

It's very common for chinese companies to sell in china at a much lower price than in western countries.
That only works if those companies can somehow control who sells their products, otherwise someone could buy products in china and sell them in the US at the chinese price. This is a price control scheme.

The easy solution to that one is two models, differing only in the front panel markings and the language in the GUI.  If the front panel is exclusively marked in Chinese and the GUI doesn't support any other language, it wont be worth much outside China.

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

It seems the people at Siglent have realised they have made a very big mistake!

That most certainly was no mistake, and they very likely knew very well what they did.

However, it seems they managed to come off pretty easy this time, so good for them.

They knew and took it as being OK was the sad part and somehow it was policy pretty much for them. The chinese HQ makes the decision's, go figure.  eBay is not taking any claims serious from them anymore as a result and then next time it get worst. They have products sold in china that not available here, as they have a separate Website.

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

It's very common for chinese companies to sell in china at a much lower price than in western countries.
That only works if those companies can somehow control who sells their products, otherwise someone could buy products in china and sell them in the US at the chinese price. This is a price control scheme.

This is exactly why I believe they did it and took it as OK and pretty much admit to it.

[nctnico]

It seems the people at Siglent have realised they have made a very big mistake!

That most certainly was no mistake, and they very likely knew very well what they did.

Clarification: Their mistake is thinking that what they did is OK.

[Wuerstchenhund]

Just found this:

http://www.ittsb.eu/forum/index.php?topic=1107.0

"Several eBay sellers them receive email notification due eBay company that their product listings them have now be deleted because some one reported these products as to be fakes.

In this marketing game SIGLENT CEO manager and several SIGLENT marketing employes now scanning eBay listings all day long and them continue to declare any SIGLENT product listing as fake.
Due their blind passion for revenge, they even started filling complains even about used-products ... "

Don't know how reliable this source is but if this is true then it seems to be far from the single mistake Siglent has claimed it was, plus they also seem to do the same in Europe.

[John Coloccia]

That was written a day after this thread started. This thread may be his only source. I think that's actually a former member here, if I remember correctly.

[ivan747]

That was written a day after this thread started. This thread may be his only source. I think that's actually a former member here, if I remember correctly.

He IS a an ex-member of the forum. Got banned eventually. I always thought he would make a second account here.

[Wuerstchenhund]

That was written a day after this thread started. This thread may be his only source. I think that's actually a former member here, if I remember correctly.

He IS a an ex-member of the forum. Got banned eventually. I always thought he would make a second account here.

I see, didn't know that, but the fact that he didn't list any sources looked a bit suspicious.

I had a look at his forum, it seems to be mostly a poor man's blog with some crude opinions and a few facts wrong (i.e. the LeCroy WaveStation 2052 is not a rebadged Siglent SDG2000X).

However, there's a chance that with the Siglent story he might actually be right. There's still a striking lack of used Siglent gear on ebay Europe.

[ivan747]

Te URL did sound like an european offitial thing, but man, this is sad:

[OldSchoolTechCorner]

Read his forum rules, this one stood out.

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Then

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The above explains this below.

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I don't think it's a donation when forcing people to pay to become a member, more of a registration fee at that point and then to steal someone thread and reword it, to attract attention, is not good.

[marber]

I think that is a good compensation for your loss of time and your problems. I am not sure it repairs their reputation though. I am a customer of Siglent's and I might or might not buy something made by them again. Time will tell.

<devil's advocate>
I actually suspect that most people who have been asserting on this thread to never EVER buy from Siglent again, will reverse their position the moment the next piece of highly "bang for buck" Siglent test equipment becomes available that fits their needs or they just desire. Sure, Siglent will have taken a bit of a hit from this, but in the end their customer base are largely hobbyists and smaller entities that do care about cost effectiveness and neat technical tools more than some principle issue that didn't really affect them directly. And there's pretty much only Rigol competing in roughly the same league...

[ivan747]

I think that is a good compensation for your loss of time and your problems. I am not sure it repairs their reputation though. I am a customer of Siglent's and I might or might not buy something made by them again. Time will tell.

<devil's advocate>
I actually suspect that most people who have been asserting on this thread to never EVER buy from Siglent again, will reverse their position the moment the next piece of highly "bang for buck" Siglent test equipment becomes available that fits their needs or they just desire.

 And there's pretty much only Rigol competing in roughly the same league...

You summarized my attitude.

[AF6LJ]

While Never Ever is a long time, Siglent and Rigol don't fit into what I have set as standards for test equipment in the first place.  I give Siglent credit for doing the right thing, we shall see how they behave in the future.