Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers

[Bicurico]

For the non-plus model, the relevant options are 3032, MEAS, EMI, TG and CAT.

[dodonny]

Strange, cause the AMK options is marked as temporary on my machine. So I expected to be possible to pass it as permanent.

Sorry that I didn't read all the thread. It is quite long.

Thanks for your reply.

[Bicurico]

AMK = MEAS

[dodonny]

Ho OK, thanks. After reading a bit more carefully the thread. I understood that I have to modify the values into the keygen script.

After changed "Refl" to "Meas" it worked like a charme !

I have now my 4 licences valid and permanent !

Thanks for your help !

[tautech]

SSA3000X Plus models have a price reduction for the rest of 2022:

SSA3015X Plus   Save $260
SSA3021X Plus   Save $296
SSA3032X Plus   Save $496

https://int.siglent.com/info/detail-64.html
https://siglentna.com/news-article/save-up-to-591-get-sds1202x-e-sdg2000x-ssa3000x-plus-at-a-super-low-price/
https://www.siglenteu.com/news-article/save-up-to-e340-get-sds1202x-e-ssa3000x-plus-at-a-super-low-price/

[did]

Hello,
I purchased one SSA3021X Plus one week ago and I decided to upgrade it to SVA1032X.
The unit were flashed with FW V3.2.2.5.0
Here the steps I followed :
         I made the backup of the SSA3021X by using the SSA3000X+_backup_11411.ADS method -> Everything went well
         I made the crossFlash SSA to SVA FW by using the updated SVA1000X-V3.2.2.5.0.ADS file -> Everthing went well
         I decided to update the ProductId info within the /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/NSP_trends_config_info.xml
         To make it done I opened one telnet session (root account) by using the following method without any problem:
                             - usage of 'DEBTTT' SCPI command from the Web interface + telnet to port 23 with root account (passwd = "1234")

        I mount the /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/ in rw to be able to update the NSP_trends_config_info.xml
 Therefore I made the following change :

 FROM :

...<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<nsp_trends_info_root>
        <device>
                <language>english</language>
                <pid>0x1305</pid>
                <vid>0xf4ec</vid>
                <product_type_1>SSA3075X Plus</product_type_1>
                <product_type_2>SSA3075X Plus</product_type_2>
                <product_type_3>SSA3032X Plus</product_type_3>
                <product_type_4>SSA3021X Plus</product_type_4>
                <product_type_5>SSA3015X Plus</product_type_5>
                <manufacturer>Siglent</manufacturer>
                <Support_Touch_Flag>1</Support_Touch_Flag>
                <Support_VXI11_Flag>1</Support_VXI11_Flag>
                <file_prefix>CP_</file_prefix>
        </device>
</nsp_trends_info_root>

TO :

...<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<nsp_trends_info_root>
        <device>
                <language>english</language>
                <pid>0x1301</pid>
                <vid>0xf4ec</vid>
                <product_type_1>SVA1032X</product_type_1>
                <manufacturer>Siglent</manufacturer>
                <Support_Touch_Flag>1</Support_Touch_Flag>
                <Support_VXI11_Flag>1</Support_VXI11_Flag>
                <file_prefix>CP_</file_prefix>
        </device>
</nsp_trends_info_root>

Then I made sync && reboot to update the ProductId on the instrument.

But at the end, after the reboot I got something strange -> The SSA has an ProductID = empty at the system info display and the NSP_trends_config_info.xml content is the following :

...<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
</nsp_trends_info_root>

Did I missed something or made one mistake somewhere ?

Thank in advance for your help.

       
         

[did]

Hum Hum I found the issue. One stupid typo error in the NSP_trends_config_info.xml file 
Now my unit seems really one SVA1032X !!!
I also updated the /usr/bin/siglent/config/NSP_config_upgrade_info.xml to declare the upgrade static id to secure future FW upgrade as SVA unit.

replace
   <upgrade_static_id>11411</upgrade_static_id>
with
   <upgrade_static_id>11403</upgrade_static_id>

[ganevson]

Hello guys and enthusiasts
I plan to take advantage of the siglent promotion and purchase the SSA3021x plus.
Can someone systematize and sequence step by step the upgrade to SVA.
I know it will be laborious, but I would appreciate a video clip. I'm not a programmer. I'm an electronics geek.
thanks

[Bicurico]

How much are you willing to pay for a custom instruction manual and video, so that you can save your valuable time?
 

[rupr19]

Hello,

Does anyone have the steps necessary to convert a "upgraded" SVA1032X back to the SSA 3021X Plus?
I am pretty sure, I saw it somewhere here before, but I could not find it anymore.

Thanks in advance!

[Bicurico]

Why?

--> If you have a problem and want to return the device under warranty, let me asure you that Siglent will be able to see that the device was hacked and hence the warranty is void. Unless you made a backup of the flash and are able to write the flash contents back. This comes with the risk of bricking the whole device.

--> If you intent to sell the device, better leave it as it is. Putting it back into a pseu-original state is cheating the buyer. I might think there is leftover warranty, which isn't true.

--> You suffer from OCD and it annoys you that the sticker SSA3021X does not match the FW SVA1032: better print a new label.

[rupr19]

Because my unit has developed a strange issue with the display and I wan to try to RMA it. I have a complete backup from the original, but have not been able to find the commands to flash it back to the device

[Bicurico]

Just modified my original response.

In case of an RMA, you might indeed want to flash the backup back. This comes with two risks, actually:

1) Is the backup you made OK?
2) Will the write process of the flash work or does your flash developed an error, which might void the flashing process?

In both cases you might be left with a bricked device.

I don't know how to write back the flash backup.

Doing the hack in reverse order is safer, but there will be leftovers from SVA, which Siglent can easily detect.

Regards,
Vitor

[pd9mwo]

HI all,
I updated my ssa3032x-plus to firmware v.3.2.5.1R1 , all went well.
I am also able to telnet to my SSA.

I just want to know in which file are the license keys stored ?
and is it possible when i delete ( or rename ) that file & reboot all the licenses are removed ?
I want to start over and want to cleanout all the current licenses.

can someone please share the ORIGINAL nsp_data_b1 file from the ssa 3021x plus
i didn't make a backup before ( stupid me )

many many thanks in advance

m

[killingtime]

Hello,

Quick question about SWR measurements, if I may.

Thinking of buying an SSA300X Plus.

I see from the manual for the SAA3000x Plus that you need a directional bridge to complete SWR measurements. Then I realised that if you have VNA functionality providing a complex impedance, you can work out the SWR from this (relative to 50 Ohms resistive).

If I've read the manual correctly, in VNA mode SWR is a menu option.

Is it plotted in cartesian format on dedicated axis like the screen dumps from a SVA1015X in the post below?

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sva1015x-1-5ghz-spectrum-vector-network-analyzer-(coming)/msg1686137/#msg1686137

Is there any benefit or drawback to using SWR figures derived from complex math as opposed to a directional bridge? The further the DUT moves away from a 50 Ohm reference, the more error there will be (fixed ADC precision) so for large SWRs I would imagine a dedicated reflection bridge would be more accurate - assuming any non-linearity in the bridge can be nulled out first - which I believe it can via calibration.

Thanks.

[tautech]

Hello,

Quick question about SWR measurements, if I may.

Thinking of buying an SSA300X Plus.

I see from the manual for the SAA3000x Plus that you need a directional bridge to complete SWR measurements. Then I realised that if you have VNA functionality providing a complex impedance, you can work out the SWR from this (relative to 50 Ohms resistive).

If I've read the manual correctly, in VNA mode SWR is a menu option.

IIRC SWR is an optional measurement in SSA3000X Plus models and yes it requires the bridge whereas in VNA mode in a SVA1000X SWR no bridge is required and has a dedicated chart that you can assign a trace to and have several traces on one chart, each of which is a different measurement.

Following on from that post I wrote up the project here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/antenna-project-log/

[holden]

Not being able to flash firmware (up or down) "Upgrade Fails."

I got a new SSA3021X+ and I it's running V3.2.2.5.0 but I can't seem to flash the firmware up to the latest (V3.2.2.5.1R1) or down to the previous. Anyone have any suggestions on things to try?

[jio]

   I recently purchased a fresh SSA3021X_PLUS ,it's running V3.2.2.5.1R20!!!!!!
how  downgrade to SSA V3.2.2.5.0 or 3.2.2.4 ？

[tautech]

Not being able to flash firmware (up or down) "Upgrade Fails."

I got a new SSA3021X+ and I it's running V3.2.2.5.0 but I can't seem to flash the firmware up to the latest (V3.2.2.5.1R1) or down to the previous. Anyone have any suggestions on things to try?

Welcome to the forum.

Incorrectly formatted or too large USB stick ?

Needs to be 8GB max and formatted in FAT32 with 4k clusters.

[Mharris27]

Not being able to flash firmware (up or down) "Upgrade Fails."

I got a new SSA3021X+ and I it's running V3.2.2.5.0 but I can't seem to flash the firmware up to the latest (V3.2.2.5.1R1) or down to the previous. Anyone have any suggestions on things to try?

Welcome to the forum.

Incorrectly formatted or too large USB stick ?

Needs to be 8GB max and formatted in FAT32 with 4k clusters.

The USB stick max size of 8GB apply to the 3021x (non-Plus) version as well? I would think it does but want to be sure.

Thanks
Mike

[tautech]

Not being able to flash firmware (up or down) "Upgrade Fails."

I got a new SSA3021X+ and I it's running V3.2.2.5.0 but I can't seem to flash the firmware up to the latest (V3.2.2.5.1R1) or down to the previous. Anyone have any suggestions on things to try?

Welcome to the forum.

Incorrectly formatted or too large USB stick ?

Needs to be 8GB max and formatted in FAT32 with 4k clusters.

The USB stick max size of 8GB apply to the 3021x (non-Plus) version as well? I would think it does but want to be sure.

Thanks
Mike

It's safe to assume all Siglent instruments however TBH I have yet to investigate their limits and would need a larger selection of USB sticks in order to do so.

[killingtime]

Did anyone find a solution to enabling individual options on the SSA2031X Plus?

The hack below allowed users to enable specific options, and keep the serial number, but Siglent closed the door on this with a new firmware that didn't allow reverting to an older firmware.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hack-of-sigllent-spectrum-analyzer-ssa3021x/msg998095/#msg998095

Telnet was closed down as well, but a modified ads file can restore it with appropriate commands.

Having read 80+ pages of this thread, it looks like the only hack left is one that enables all options and removes the serial number. Is that a fair assessment of the current status?

Thanks.

[Mharris27]

Did anyone find a solution to enabling individual options on the SSA2031X Plus?

The hack below allowed users to enable specific options, and keep the serial number, but Siglent closed the door on this with a new firmware that didn't allow reverting to an older firmware.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hack-of-sigllent-spectrum-analyzer-ssa3021x/msg998095/#msg998095

Telnet was closed down as well, but a modified ads file can restore it with appropriate commands.

Having read 80+ pages of this thread, it looks like the only hack left is one that enables all options and removes the serial number. Is that a fair assessment of the current status?

Thanks.

Take a look at post 1968 https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ssa3000x-spectrum-analyzers/1950/
Launch that script and follow the directions. It worked for my new non plus version with FW 2.1.1.1 so it may work for yours.

[dindondee]

Hello everyone,

I am looking to purchase the SSA3032X Plus and I have searched around to know if it can be hacked and what options I can have unlocked, what I find seems to be mostly for the SSA3021. I think I also saw something on here a while back (cant seem to find it) about unlocking to a VNA up to 7Ghz... is that still possible?

Can you please let me know what version will be best to get (Christmas gift to myself) that has the most/best unlock capability? I appreciate any information I can get on this, thank you!

[DL4JY]

SSA3000X Plus models have a price reduction for the rest of 2022:

SSA3015X Plus   Save $260
SSA3021X Plus   Save $296
SSA3032X Plus   Save $496

https://int.siglent.com/info/detail-64.html
https://siglentna.com/news-article/save-up-to-591-get-sds1202x-e-sdg2000x-ssa3000x-plus-at-a-super-low-price/
https://www.siglenteu.com/news-article/save-up-to-e340-get-sds1202x-e-ssa3000x-plus-at-a-super-low-price/

Hello everyone,

I am looking to purchase the SSA3032X Plus and I have searched around to know if it can be hacked and what options I can have unlocked, what I find seems to be mostly for the SSA3021. I think I also saw something on here a while back (cant seem to find it) about unlocking to a VNA up to 7Ghz... is that still possible?

Can you please let me know what version will be best to get (Christmas gift to myself) that has the most/best unlock capability? I appreciate any information I can get on this, thank you!

The question reminds me what car should I buy.
Volkswagen Beetle or Aston Martin ? What do you need ??

If you look at Tautechs Info, I would go for the SSA3021x plus - technical educated folks can modify it to behave as a native SVA 1032x (my knowledge today - by experience - no legal obligations)

Probably without talking about your needs, nobody will answer to your question, I would suggest a Ford Mach E - go for it !!