Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers

[Lupusz]

Just bought a SSA3021X plus.  I have upgraded it to a SVA1032X.  I was able to flash the unit with the newer firmware V3.2.2.4.0  successfully.

I noticed that the any of the telnet ADS don't work anymore?

Yes, i did!
I'm in trouble now asking for help.

I got a SSS3021X Plus with Firmware 3.2.2.3.2 and startet following procedure:

01)   Downgraded to SSA3000X Plus_V2.2.1.2.8.ADS

02) Put "SSA3032X_Plus_telnet.ADS" in FAT32 stick and start Firmware upgrade
   System - System Info - Firmware Upgrade - Choose the "SSA3032X_Plus_telnet.ADS" - Open/Load

03) During the upgrade the SSA3021X Plus has Telnet enabled at port 21 (10101)

04) telnet 10.1.1.136 10101
   We are now on the device

05) rename  /usr/bin/siglent/ecomb_p to /usr/bin/siglent/ecomb
   mv ecomb_p ecomb

06)   /sbin/telnetd -l /bin/sh -p 10101 &

07)   in /usr/bin/siglent/startup_app.sh changed
   "/usr/bin/siglent/ecomb_p &" to "/usr/bin/siglent/ecomb &"
   a)   vi startup_app.sh
   b)   changed text accordingly
   c)   ESC + :wq   ; to save the file and exit
   
08) in /usr/bin/siglent/config/NSP_config_upgrade_info.xml changed   "<upgrade_static_id>11405</upgrade_static_id>" to "<upgrade_static_id>11403</upgrade_static_id>"
   a)    vi NSP_config_upgrade_info.xml
   b)   change text accordingly
   c)   ESC + :wq   ; to save the file and exit
   
09)   PLace a sync command at the bash:
   "sync"

09)   Reboot

10)   Updated device with SVA V3.2.2.3.3R1 and now I'm stuck.

The device shows that it is a SSA3032XP but goes to 2.1GHz only.
I shoes the VNA mode greyed out.
I cannot access the device any more with "SVA1032X_telnet.ADS" or "SSA3000X_Plus_telnet.ADS". Therefore I cannot roll back get even access to the device.

Help is really appriciated as I'm aware that I cannot help myself at this stage!

Cheers,
Lupusz

[DeepLink]

I'm a no expert at all in this area, but I had problems like that myself

Was stuck in the middle of the upgrade

I had to run the scripts several times before it worked on my unit

[Lupusz]

Sorry in case I was unclear.

->  I have no chance to connect to the device so I cannot clean up or try the process again <-

[tv84]

The device shows that it is a SSA3032XP but goes to 2.1GHz only.
I shoes the VNA mode greyed out.

All that shows that you successfully crossflashed it. Now, you are only missing the licensing.

[Lupusz]

All instructions I found for licensing include ability to be able to reach the device....?

[Kibabalu]

A couple of weeks ago I had a bricked device and had to open up the device and use the internal serial port pins connected to an USB-UART-adapter. The pin connector is quite easy to find. Removing the plastic housing backplate is enough. But you'll loose warranty.

For me it was the only choice.

For you maybe it's better to wait for a proper .ADS-file.

[Bicurico]

Sorry if this seems "stupid advice", but it was the case with some people having issues.

Have you confirmed that your network settings are correct? Cross-flashing/FW upgrade/FW restore often has the effect of the Siglent using the default configuration after reboot, including some weird network settiing. Check if this is the case and reconfigure the IP setting to match your network.

The cross-flashed SSA+ will normally still show SSA+ instead of SVA. This is because the relevant file showing the model name needs to be edited/replaced manually (using telnet).

The missing options is due to missing hack for PRO mode.

Before opening the device, check the network configuration. Then try again with the SVA version of the fake telnet upgrade ADS posted by tv84. It should work.

Please report back.

Regards,
Vitor

[Lupusz]

tv84 helped me with "direct licensing" and now it's working.
Thank You so much for your effort!
You have no idea how sleepless my last night was.

So what is the status after the procedure and the licenses from tv84:
*) 3.2GHz bandwidth
*) VNA features lifetime
*) all SSA features lifetime

What is not working any more:
*) None of the Telnet "sda" files work, neither the SSA nor the SVA files.

I can live with that, basically I'm more than happy with that! 

[Kibabalu]

Just for the case: The pin header assignment can be found in post #27 of

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hack-of-sigllent-spectrum-analyzer-ssa3021x/msg974784/#msg974784

The picture is from a non-plus model, but for plus models it is the same.

But first follow the advice of Bicurio's #1482!!!

[nive]

Hello hero’s,
I received my SSA3021X-plus today.
I made a backup of the nand with the tool provided by TV84.
It is only 488 MB. Is this correct?

Grtz. Niek

[derek1ee]

(I haven't completed the step to enable all options with serial # turning into all Xs).

From memory, you need to unlock the options to get the bandwidth and VNA enabled.

Hi -

I have a SSA3021X Plus with the latest V3.2.2.3.3R1 firmware, and followed post #1223 (except step 2/3 since it's no longer required per a later post), and was able to flash the factory SVA 1032X V3.2.2.3.3R1 firmware.

However, after the upgrade, I have TG menu disabled (and TG not even showing a permanently enabled option under info like before the flash), I also don't see disabled VNA option under "Mode".

I then updated "NSP_trends_config_info.xml" as per instruction, and have since got TG option back. However, I'm still capped at 2.1G, but it's my understanding that it should now have been expanded to 3.2G, what am I doing wrong?

(I haven't completed the step to enable all options with serial # turning into all Xs).

Thanks!

3.2 GHz is one of the options, so you have to unlock them to get it.

Thanks! That's indeed the case, I'm now unlocked all options with SN becoming all Xs. Now to research how to get the actual SN back.

Thanks everyone and happy new year!

Continuing on from where I left off, I've since got the calibration kit.

After performing the 1-port calibration under the VNA menu, it still shows "---" on the upper left corner, which according to the manual means "No calibration data". I expected it to show "Cor" to indicate calibrated.

Performing calibration under DTF appears to be working, and I get "Cor" showing once completed.

Does anyone else see this? Could this be due to missing the SMA cable?

Thanks!

[derek1ee]

Continuing on from where I left off, I've since got the calibration kit.

After performing the 1-port calibration under the VNA menu, it still shows "---" on the upper left corner, which according to the manual means "No calibration data". I expected it to show "Cor" to indicate calibrated.

Performing calibration under DTF appears to be working, and I get "Cor" showing once completed.

Does anyone else see this? Could this be due to missing the SMA cable?

Thanks!

More observation - in VNA, if I perform a "open cal", it should display "Cor" on the upper left corner of the chart, same if I perform a "close cal".

But if I do a "1 port cal", it would display "---". I also notice that after calibrating with open/close/load with "1 port cal", pressing Enter will hang the system for a few seconds before the beep, not sure if related.

[Ghislain]

^^^
Exactly the same behaviour here and I have been wondering why that is or if I did something wrong in the sequence of events.
Also, using a 'user1' cal kit, I am able to save to calibration data to a file however when I load that file it is unclear if and what it has loaded.
Would there not be a possibility to show the loaded cal kit name on screen?   
The whole calibration process is unclear and not sufficiently documented in the user manual, that definitely requires some additional work.

[Ghislain]

Hello hero’s,
I received my SSA3021X-plus today.
I made a backup of the nand with the tool provided by TV84.
It is only 488 MB. Is this correct?

Grtz. Niek

I just checked, mine was 417 MB when I made the backup at the time so that sounds about right.

[Mouse69]

SSA3021X Plus backup as reported by Windows 10 of FAT32 USB drive: 417MB

Cross flashed to SVA1032X backup as reported by Windows 10 of FAT32 USB drive (firmware 3.2.2.3.2): 487MB

[Noy]

The crossflash backup script worked?
On my crossflashed SVA same Firmware it didn't work. Maybe i will try a 2. USB stick..

[Mouse69]

The cross flash backup script worked?
On my cross flashed SVA same Firmware it didn't work. Maybe i will try a 2. USB stick..

For the cross flashed SVA1032X, I used the nanddump for the SVA1032X (from the SVA thread) edit - yes it worked.

I used it with a SanDisk Cruzer Blade 32GB USB 2.0 (as it came - formatted for FAT32)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01FSJBXRG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hope this helps.  And thanks again to tv84 and all his hard work here.

Please note: I'm not on the latest firmware from the EU site (siglenteu.com) and the international site (siglent.com) has an even newer 3.2.2.4.0 version from a week ago.

Release notes for the 3.2.2.4.0 firmware:

Notice:  This firmware must be upgraded from V2.1.1.1.12a or later. If your SVA1000X has an earlier version, please update to V2.1.1.1.12a first and then proceed to update to the latest version.
 
This version can not be rolled back
Fix TG switch error at small RBW
Fix Help and Limit file lost when Factory reset
Fix Auto open delay unit error in VNA mode
Fix CNR calc error when no peak found
Fix OBW result overflow
Fix Harmonic calc error at 100Hz RBW
Fix Reflection Open+Short calibration action
Fix spectrum amplitude error in DMA mode
Optimize EMI .csv file content to all signal list
Optimize EMI peak search
Optimize Auto cal process
Add Peak search to Spectrum in DMA mode

[nive]

Is it possible that Siglent delivers SSA 3021x-plus with slightly modified soft/firmware?
My newly delivered SSA with stock firmware 3.2.2.3.2. Looks like having a changed file: /usr/bin/siglent/startup_app.sh
See screenshot, there is no Line with startup command for ecomb_p or Aladdin app anymore?

[tubularnut]

How did you display the contents of the startup file?

There was an issue a while back with hidden control characters messing up the printed output

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ssa3000x-spectrum-analyzers/msg3367292/#msg3367292

Try displaying the file with the cat command.

[Bicurico]

Just some notes:

1) You should never flash the backup of a different device onto yours, as you will lose all configuration data doing so!
2) The crossflashed SVA1032 will probably no longer be able to run the nand backup script, as the lates two FW releases changed something that prevents running these fake ADS files. This is probably the same reason why the telnet ADS is no longer working, either.
3) I don't think that Siglent changed anything in regards how the ecomb/Aladdin executable is started. The executable is called by startup_app.sh which is started as a daemon configures in /etc. Have a look there to find the script calling startup_app.sh.

[nive]

How did you display the contents of the startup file?

There was an issue a while back with hidden control characters messing up the printed output

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ssa3000x-spectrum-analyzers/msg3367292/#msg3367292

Try displaying the file with the cat command.

That was indeed the problem. Telnet didn’t show the last line. Thanks.

[nive]

I found a NSP_trends_config_info.xml file in this thread and thought to be smart and instead of editing the NSP_ config_upgrade_info.xml I copied this over the upgrade file.    
Now I’m missing the original NSP_ config_upgrade_info.xml file.
Does someone have a copy of that file for me?

[nive]

I found a NSP_trends_config_info.xml file in this thread and thought to be smart and instead of editing the NSP_ config_upgrade_info.xml I copied this over the upgrade file.    
Now I’m missing the original NSP_ config_upgrade_info.xml file.
Does someone have a copy of that file for me?

Nobody willing or having the time to help me?
I’m stuck on upgrading now. I think that’s because of the missing file: NSP_ config_upgrade_info.xml
Or does anybody know how to restore the backup from the nand-backup script?

edit: thanks to a helpfull member i have now a SVA3000X-Plus 

[tautech]

thanks to a helpful member i have now a SVA3000X-Plus 

Not exactly, it's a SVA1000X.
Be sure to use SVA firmware from now on and the correct version for the model/BW. 

Carry on here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sva1015x-1-5ghz-spectrum-vector-network-analyzer-(coming)/

[tv84]

Here.