Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers

[indeterminatus]

Interesting idea, tautech!

I would actually like to go a step further and synchronize the local files to the USB stick that are missing (there), if that is not already covered by the Export function (probably via "skip existing"). I know that I'd be annoyed if I had to select (only) those local files that are missing on the USB stick in the first place.

I even might not mind being asked if I wanted to copy all local files (that are missing on the USB stick) when plugging in the stick. Then, I might pick a target directory on the stick (root being default), and be done with it.

I'm not too used to the instrument, but so far I don't find the File browser of the SVA1032X very intuitive. The less I have to fiddle around with it, the better

[hendorog]

Further to this tautech and I have had a chat, and these are the ideas we have bounced around:

1.
As mentioned - on the device itself, implement a Copy All/Export All function to bulk copy Local files to the USB drive in one step.

1a.
Improve the file management function in general. The copy paste mechanism is functional, but clunky.
A simple improvement would be to remove the need to switch between Dir and File mode when pasting.

2.
Run an FTP and/or a Samba server on the device to provide a way to remote access files on the local and USB filesystems.

3.
Implement a web based file browser which is accessible via the built in Siglent Instrument Control web page.

4.
(Bonus feature, this is a bit novel)
On the filesystem provide a set of 'virtual files' which allow access to the device data and screenshots without having to save the files on the device.
e.g.
to take a screenshot, just open the screenshot.png virtual file on the PC (via FTP or using the web browser). The act of opening the file will take the screenshot and then save the data on the PC as normal.
to download a CSV file of the current sweep open the sweep.csv file on the PC. The data is returned at the end of the sweep.
etc etc for all of the different file types.

[tomud]

As we are talking about files, while the menu and copying can be survived, the lack of export to touchstone (s2p) files is a pain.

[hendorog]

As we are talking about files, while the menu and copying can be survived, the lack of export to touchstone (s2p) files is a pain.

Yes - this has been requested already, hopefully it will come soon. I'm sure it helps if more people request it.

[indeterminatus]

Yes - this has been requested already, hopefully it will come soon. I'm sure it helps if more people request it.

Is there an official Siglent idea/feature request tracker where I can place my vote on this, or does someone pass this along to Siglent?

In the latter case, I'd like to weigh in on that one.
In the former case, please share the link -- I could not find anything beyond the generic "Contact us" form on Siglent's website.

[tautech]

Yes - this has been requested already, hopefully it will come soon. I'm sure it helps if more people request it.

Is there an official Siglent idea/feature request tracker where I can place my vote on this, or does someone pass this along to Siglent?

They keep an eye out for suggestions here and in a few threads however there are a few of us that pass stuff to them too, dealers and beta testers etc.
Use this thread as there there is a list of their products threads in the first post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-technical-support-join-in-eevblog/

Or as you have a SVA1032X here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sva1015x-1-5ghz-spectrum-vector-network-analyzer-(coming)/

[tomud]

 I don't know if it was already posted here, but found it by accident

https://teledynelecroy.com/spectrum-analyzers/detail.aspx?modelid=11039

https://teledynelecroy.com/vector-network-analyzer/detail.aspx?modelid=11452

I wonder what the differences in the firmware (some old firmware versions: T3SA3000_1.2.9.3a.ADS & T3VNA1500_2.2.1.2.7.ADS)

[tautech]

I don't know if it was already posted here, but found it by accident

Nice find. 

I wonder what the differences in the firmware (some old firmware versions: T3SA3000_1.2.9.3a.ADS & T3VNA1500_2.2.1.2.7.ADS)

LeCroy display branding. 

[tomud]

LeCroy display branding. 

I think he can paint LeCroy with a felt-tip pen 

and interesting things - documentation on how to program with NI-VISA (Visual C++, LabView, Matlab)

http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/manuals/t3vna-programming-manual.pdf

[rf-loop]

LeCroy display branding. 

I think he can paint LeCroy with a felt-tip pen 

and interesting things - documentation on how to program with NI-VISA (Visual C++, LabView, Matlab)

http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/manuals/t3vna-programming-manual.pdf

And how it differ technically from these Siglent originals
https://www.siglenteu.com/download/8312/   (206 pages,  SVA, SSAPlus. SSA-R)
https://www.siglenteu.com/download/2531/   (86 pages SSA3000X)

Of course if you want rebrand Siglent products for your name you can also then rename it in manuals and put your logo, contacts and what name you have give for instrument. Also you can change boot logo etc. After then warranty and all aftersale support or others are yours. You can do it better or same or worse than OEM. 
Example how slowly FW updates are published by company who put they own logo to OEM's product - who knows, this is not OEM's headache.

Other than rebrand OEM it is also possible Siglent do ODM for you, just with your specs and details you want (of course every ODM manufacturer have own limits what they can and can not) and even hide every single bit of details what tell who have made it.

These rebrand can find in many places, here one example:
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/bk-precision/spectrum-analyzers/9-khz-to-2-1-ghz-benchtop-spectrum-analyzer-2682.htm
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/bk-precision/pdf/2680-series_datasheet.pdf

fun prices...

[olc]

Hi-

Does the Real Time Spectrum Analyzer (RTSA) work with your crossflashed SSA+?

--
Olivier

[Elasia]

Further to this tautech and I have had a chat, and these are the ideas we have bounced around:

1.
As mentioned - on the device itself, implement a Copy All/Export All function to bulk copy Local files to the USB drive in one step.

1a.
Improve the file management function in general. The copy paste mechanism is functional, but clunky.
A simple improvement would be to remove the need to switch between Dir and File mode when pasting.

2.
Run an FTP and/or a Samba server on the device to provide a way to remote access files on the local and USB filesystems.

3.
Implement a web based file browser which is accessible via the built in Siglent Instrument Control web page.

4.
(Bonus feature, this is a bit novel)
On the filesystem provide a set of 'virtual files' which allow access to the device data and screenshots without having to save the files on the device.
e.g.
to take a screenshot, just open the screenshot.png virtual file on the PC (via FTP or using the web browser). The act of opening the file will take the screenshot and then save the data on the PC as normal.
to download a CSV file of the current sweep open the sweep.csv file on the PC. The data is returned at the end of the sweep.
etc etc for all of the different file types.

I swapped out telnet for ssh and just use winscp on this and my scope.. my suggestion would be they do the same..  i'd be surprised if they did though.. i think the best you will get is some kinda file management os additions to the gui and some further additions to the webgui to download the files

Hi-

Does the Real Time Spectrum Analyzer (RTSA) work with your crossflashed SSA+?

--
Olivier

No, these are not real time units

[tautech]

Further to this tautech and I have had a chat, and these are the ideas we have bounced around:

1.
As mentioned - on the device itself, implement a Copy All/Export All function to bulk copy Local files to the USB drive in one step.

1a.
Improve the file management function in general. The copy paste mechanism is functional, but clunky.
A simple improvement would be to remove the need to switch between Dir and File mode when pasting.

2.
Run an FTP and/or a Samba server on the device to provide a way to remote access files on the local and USB filesystems.

3.
Implement a web based file browser which is accessible via the built in Siglent Instrument Control web page.

4.
(Bonus feature, this is a bit novel)
On the filesystem provide a set of 'virtual files' which allow access to the device data and screenshots without having to save the files on the device.
e.g.
to take a screenshot, just open the screenshot.png virtual file on the PC (via FTP or using the web browser). The act of opening the file will take the screenshot and then save the data on the PC as normal.
to download a CSV file of the current sweep open the sweep.csv file on the PC. The data is returned at the end of the sweep.
etc etc for all of the different file types.

I swapped out telnet for ssh and just use winscp on this and my scope.. my suggestion would be they do the same..  i'd be surprised if they did though.. i think the best you will get is some kinda file management os additions to the gui and some further additions to the webgui to download the files

Little update, FTP access is already functional by default however file access is PW protected but improved SSA/SVA Local file access from PC has been accepted as a feature request to be added in the near future.

Will be interesting to see the final implementation.   

[Relaxe]

Hi there,

Another SSA3021 sucessfully crossflashed here.

I used the instruction recap from @maximevince at post #1223 from this thread.
Thanks to all the contributors!

Small thing:
The backup require to mount the USB device in RW mode:
$ mount -o remount,rw /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0

Also, this is not super n00b friendly as a procedure, maybe it's better that way.
In all cases, if you never used vi to edit a file, this is not a procedure you should attempt (yet)­.

[Mouse69]

Another successful crossflash and upgrade to V3.2.2.3.2 firmware.  All calibrated and looks good.  Thanks guys so very much for all your hard work to get us here.

For vi, I'd not really used it for 25 years, it's not the same as Windows notepad for sure.  Have a play with it and make sure you understand 'i' / '<ESC>' to enter text / commands.  ':q!' to exit without saving changes and 'ZZ' to save your changes, before using it in anger.  Please note these are case sensitive. 

[dschiedsch]

Hi all
I managed to kill my device tree and maybe the nand file while attempting to crossflash my SSA3021X Plus
And of course I didn't do a proper backup 

Can someone help me with a complete backup so I can extract the data to resurrect my device?

Regards

[tautech]

New firmware for SSA3000X models (NOT later Plus models)

https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Spectrum_analyzer/SSA3000X_1.3.9.6_EN.zip
7.4 MB

Release notes
This firmware must be upgraded from V1.2.8.1 or later. If your SSA3000X has an earlier version, please update to V1.2.8.1 first and then proceed to update to the latest version.
Fixed the problem unit in TG and the UNCAL condition
Fixed the AVG detector in frequency LOG scale
Fixed the display error with long file name
Fixed some SCPI commands
Fixed the beeper switch
Fixed the .cor file error when recalling it
Add Limit mask offset in frequency and amplitude

[dschiedsch]

With the help of nand backup files from forum-member indeterminatus i was able to resurrect my device
thx again
I now know way more about u-boot then i ever wanted to know ;-)

[mawyatt]

We have a SSA3021X Plus "enabled" to 3.2GHz and "expanded" to SVA1032X following the procedures and help from folks on here.

System Info shows SVA1032X. SW1 is 2.2.1.2.8, SW2 is 20200616-1, SW3 is 000000D4 and HW is 00.00.00

Question on the TG "Normalize" button not active (greyed out) when the TG is on. The TG works fine but I can't activate the Normalize function. Same goes for the Ref Trace not being active, all the other TG related bottons are active, just Normalize and Ref Trace are greyed out and inactive.

I've followed the procedure in 2.2.7.4 in the manual. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Best,

[matteo_galet]

Hello,
 anyone experimenting with the SVA1075X ?
We'll get one soon - minus the licen$e$.

Maybe I'll start a thread so we can tweak the heck out of that model...

[Trader]

SSA3021X Plus can be upgraded to a SSA3032X Plus which can be expanded to a SVA1032X

[tautech]

We have a SSA3021X Plus "enabled" to 3.2GHz and "expanded" to SVA1032X following the procedures and help from folks on here.

System Info shows SVA1032X. SW1 is 2.2.1.2.8, SW2 is 20200616-1, SW3 is 000000D4 and HW is 00.00.00

Question on the TG "Normalize" button not active (greyed out) when the TG is on. The TG works fine but I can't activate the Normalize function. Same goes for the Ref Trace not being active, all the other TG related bottons are active, just Normalize and Ref Trace are greyed out and inactive.

I've followed the procedure in 2.2.7.4 in the manual. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Best,

Mike, when you have no luck entering the settings you require sometimes it's best to clear all previous settings with a press of Preset and return everything to factory defaults.

Yes, the Normalise procedure has changed in the Plus and SVA models where now you must set a reference trace first. The manual states this but it's easily overlooked.
You can chose to display it or not and where the normalised trace will appear on the display....in a % position of the 10 graticule display height.
Follow 2.2.7.4 Normalise on P38 of manual #E02A and you should sort it. Come back if you don't.

A couple of SVA1032X screenshots attached FYI.

[mawyatt]

That's it, I didn't have a Reference trace set

Thanks for the help and prompt response 

Best,

[Noy]

Does somebody know if its save tu upgrade the firmware of a "promode" SSA3021X Plus -> SVA1032X with the newest firmware?
SVA1032X Firmware - V3.2.2.3.2 (Release Date 09.18.20 ) ?

Would be nice because :
Functionality:
•Adduser definedVNAcalibration kits
•Add VNA 0 span calibration

Would be nice to use a not official calkit..?

[videobruce]

the Normalise procedure has changed in the Plus and SVA models where now you must set a reference trace first.

  Why is this??