Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers

[rhb]

I bought a Siglent SSA several years ago.  It was so buggy I returned it.  I now have an 8560A and 8566B.  Much happier.  The Siglent had more "features", but I'd rather have reliability.

Reg

[Elasia]

I present to you a SSA fully optioned up including the hidden features


Big thanks to tv84 for his decryption work

[Sighound36]

As always Tv84 doing his thing 

So the big question is can you obtain the VNA on this model as well?

[TurboTom]

As always Tv84 doing his thing 

So the big question is can you obtain the VNA on this model as well?

Look at @Elasia's third image: here he's measuring S11. Also the option list includes "VNA" option...


Maybe it's time to consider selling my "old, improved" SSA3021X for an option-up  . This liberated "Plus" should cover 95% of the cases where I otherwise would power up my 8753C...

[tubularnut]

I present to you a SSA fully optioned up including the hidden features


Big thanks to tv84 for his decryption work

Think I'll hold back on buying the SVA in addition to my Plus!

[Elasia]

Yeah it looks gtg with the exception of needing to calibrate it

You also need this kit to do that

 http://www.saelig.com/product/f503me.htm

Also this requires more moderate knowledge as its not just enabling option keys and makes it not compatible with future updates without rework

The tools needed are not public to my knowledge either

[Houseman]

ADC Overload but graph not displaying peak.

Hi. During a EMI measurement my SSA 3012X was beeping as mad telling me there was an ADC overload but apart from that I could not find the frequency peak that caused the OL nor anything else pointing me to the right direction.
It is normal that even with a ADC overloaded input the monitor does not show anything?
Am I missing something in the setup?
Best regards and thanks

[TurboTom]

The signal swamping your SSA's mixer may actually be located outside of the observed frequency span so it's not directly visible on-screen. Increase the span to locate it.

The error message "ADC overload" is somewhat misleading. The problem isn't that much the ADC but rather the first stage mixer being operated outside its linear range. And since there's no additional filtering present (except for the fixed low-pass filter that cuts input frequencies above the specified range of the SSA - 3.2x GHz -), a strong signal outside the span that you look at may very well drive the mixer into its non-linear range. It's good practice to always start with full span, then adjust the input attenuation, and only after that zoom down to the frequency range that you want to observe.

[Houseman]

Thank You TurboTom (not also for this reply.... )
Do you mean those peaks multiple of 50Hz are causing the ADC overload?

[TurboTom]

@Houseman: No, sorry, I may not have been completely clear -- please start with measuring the full span, i.e. select "Span" -> "Full Span". This should select, depending on the specific model of the SSA you're using, a frequency range of 0 to 2.1 or 3.2GHz. If the Resolution Bandwidth setting is set to auomatic, the scan time shouldn't be overly long. If the scan is too slow, change the VBW to automatic or a higher, fixed setting.

Now you should be able to identify the peak that's overloading your SSA and adjust the input attenuation accordingly to eliminate the warning (a margin of at least 10dB should be kept, when you need high spur rejection, even 20dB may be necessary). Then "magnify" the span to the range that's of interest to you and adjust the other parameters accordingly (RBW, VBW if required). You may "play" with the attenuator setting to identify possible intermodulation spurs (if there are, they should vary with the attenuation, otherwise, only the noise background will shift up/down) and find the best setting to conduct your measurement.

[tubularnut]

By request, screenshot of unlocked 3021X-Plus

[tautech]

By request, screenshot of unlocked 3021X-Plus

Hmmm, not quite as interesting as the one from Elasia a few posts back. 

[tv84]

Assuming I'm 4 years old, who can explain me the differences between:

Siglent SVA1032X
Siglent SSA3032X Plus


Also, is there a SSA7075X Plus? Or the 7.GHz is a SSA3032X Plus on steroids?

[tubularnut]

By request, screenshot of unlocked 3021X-Plus

Hmmm, not quite as interesting as the one from Elasia a few posts back. 

Mine was unlocked back in December 

[tautech]

Also, is there a SSA7075X Plus? Or the 7.GHz is a SSA3032X Plus on steroids?

SSA3075X Plus and SVA1075X are new HW AFAIK.
Also SSA3000X-R models of 5 and 7.5 GHz might be new HW too ? 

[jemangedeslolos]

Im coming 

 

[jemangedeslolos]

Elasia :

Where did you buy your SSA3021X ?
Is it from Batronix in Germany ?

Thank you 

[Elasia]

Elasia :

Where did you buy your SSA3021X ?
Is it from Batronix in Germany ?

Thank you 

Saelig on this one, i got my new SDS2100X Plus scope from batronix though because they were the only good folks that had one and the blog discount

[Elasia]

Also, is there a SSA7075X Plus? Or the 7.GHz is a SSA3032X Plus on steroids?

SSA3075X Plus and SVA1075X are new HW AFAIK.
Also SSA3000X-R models of 5 and 7.5 GHz might be new HW too ? 

What about my 4-year old question? 

Just like tau said.. its a different hardware platform im pretty sure as well from everything i could read on it.. also this one is limited by hardware design that TSP goes over in his breakdown, so yeah no 7Ghz here

[Elasia]

Assuming I'm 4 years old, who can explain me the differences between:

Siglent SVA1032X
Siglent SSA3032X Plus


Also, is there a SSA7075X Plus? Or the 7.GHz is a SSA3032X Plus on steroids?

Nothing hardware wise is different other than the label on the plastic.. software wise.. i know you know Up to you if you reveal it

Also I just confirmed that the electronic loads are all the same too, im going to get the cheap 200W and convert it to a 300W as my next project

[tv84]

Also, is there a SSA7075X Plus? Or the 7.GHz is a SSA3032X Plus on steroids?

SSA3075X Plus and SVA1075X are new HW AFAIK.
Also SSA3000X-R models of 5 and 7.5 GHz might be new HW too ? 

What about my 4-year old question? 

Just like tau said.. its a different hardware platform im pretty sure as well from everything i could read on it.. also this one is limited by hardware design that TSP goes over in his breakdown, so yeah no 7Ghz here

I was asking the differences between these 2:

Siglent SVA1032X
Siglent SSA3032X Plus

[jemangedeslolos]

It's a bit off topic, but if tautech was really a nice guy, He would have bought each model from Siglent with detailed teardown.
Only on SDS5000X, if it turns out that now the front end is the same on the whole family, it would double sales of this model for Siglent 

[Elasia]

Also, is there a SSA7075X Plus? Or the 7.GHz is a SSA3032X Plus on steroids?

SSA3075X Plus and SVA1075X are new HW AFAIK.
Also SSA3000X-R models of 5 and 7.5 GHz might be new HW too ? 

What about my 4-year old question? 

Just like tau said.. its a different hardware platform im pretty sure as well from everything i could read on it.. also this one is limited by hardware design that TSP goes over in his breakdown, so yeah no 7Ghz here

I was asking the differences between these 2:

Siglent SVA1032X
Siglent SSA3032X Plus

1:38 mark

It's the same specs

the one that is subpar is the SVA1015X and is the older platform

I dont recall seeing anyone having a pic or video of a SSA3032X Plus in the wild

[jemangedeslolos]

Registering on this forum was the most dangerous decision for my money wallet 

[Elasia]

Registering on this forum was the most dangerous decision for my money wallet 

Hahahahah I know right...