Siglent SSA3000X and SSA3000X-Plus Spectrum Analyzers

[markus_jlrb]

Dears,

I'm trying to create a mem dump of my SDS5k DSO and my SSA3kX-R SA
via the mentioned script siglent_device_startup.sh via plugged in USB device
at device power up.
Did some attempts with filename startup.sh as well with no success.

The script was modified by me as I was not successful to do the dump with
the origin script starting telnetd.

My script sh code used, see below.
 

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#/bin/sh (as well as with #!)
export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export USBDEV=`df -h | tail -1 | awk '{print $6}'`
for i in `seq 0 1 12`
 do
   nanddump -f ${USBDEV}/mtd${i} /dev/mtd${i}
   if [ $? == 0 ]
   then
     echo SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd${i} >> ${USBDEV}/SDS5KXDMP.log
   else
     echo ERROR dumping /dev/mtd${i} >> ${USBDEV}/SDS5KXDMP.log
   fi
   sleep 1
done

The above script was modified like the orig. .ADS script named startup_app.sh
I found in the SSA3kX-R .ADS file.

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#/bin/sh
echo "startup_app.sh   start++++++++++"


export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
#echo "qt path config"
export QT_PATH_ROOT=/opt/qt
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QT_PATH_ROOT/lib:$QT_PATH_ROOT/lib/ts:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export QT_PLUGIN_PATH=$QT_PATH_ROOT/plugins
export FONTCONFIG_PATH=$QT_PATH_ROOT/share
export QT_QPA_PLATFORM=linuxfb:fb=/dev/fb0:size=1024x600:mmsize=223x125:rotation=0
export QT_QPA_GENERIC_PLUGINS=evdevtouch:/dev/input/event0
export QT_QPA_EVDEV_TOUCHSCREEN_PARAMETERS=/dev/input/event0

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin/siglent:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export LANG=en_US.utf8

#for vnc upgrade ads residual+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

echo "rm -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/*.ADS"
rm -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/*.ADS
rm -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/*.CFG
rm -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/*.ads
rm -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/*.cfg
sync

#for vnc upgrade ads residual+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#for ads upgrade app, (space dependent)
if [ -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/upgrade_app1.sh ]; then
mount -o remount,rw /usr/bin/siglent
/usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/upgrade_app1.sh
echo "/usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/upgrade_app1.sh"

rm /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/upgrade_app1.sh -rf
echo "rm /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/upgrade_app1.sh -rf"

rm /usr/bin/siglent/usr/usr/upgrade/* -rf
echo "rm /usr/bin/siglent/usr/usr/upgrade/* -rf"
mount -o remount,ro /usr/bin/siglent
sync
fi

#for udisk upgrade , no firmdata0
if [ -d /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/config ]; then
mount -o remount,rw /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0
cp -rpf /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/config/* /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/
echo "cp -pf /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/config/* /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0/"
sync
mount -o remount,rw /usr/bin/siglent
rm /usr/bin/siglent/usr/backup/config -r
mount -o remount,ro /usr/bin/siglent
sync
mount -o remount,ro /usr/bin/siglent/firmdata0
fi

#for upgrade ads residual+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
if [ -d /usr/bin/siglent/usr/usr/upgrade ]; then
rm /usr/bin/siglent/usr/usr/upgrade -rf
fi

/usr/bin/siglent/config_eth0.sh
sleep 1
portmap &
/usr/bin/siglent/Aladdin &

echo "startup_app.sh   end++++++++++"

Have some one some experience with the direct dump without a modified ADS
file such as provided by user tv84.


Many thanks in advance for your help

Markus

[markus_jlrb]

After installing tv84 SSA3000X-R_telnet_11412.ADS file,
I was able to dump all mtd partitions - tnx to tv84 effort
to supply this ADS.

Now trying the same for the SDS5kX - any similar ADS
available for telneting the device?


Markus

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/usr/bin/siglent # export USBDEV=`df -h | tail -1 | awk '{print $6}'`

mount -o remount,rw ${USBDEV}


for i in `seq 0 1 9`
 do
   nanddump -f ${USBDEV}/mtd${i} /dev/mtd${i}
   if [ $? == 0 ]
   then
     echo SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd${i} >> ${USBDEV}/SSA3KXRDMP.log
   else
     echo ERROR dumping /dev/mtd${i} >> ${USBDEV}/SSA3KXRDMP.log
   fi
   sleep 1
done

/usr/bin/siglent # cat ${USBDEV}/SSA3KXRDMP.log
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd0
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd1
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd2
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd3
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd4
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd5
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd6
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd7
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd8
SUCCESS dumping /dev/mtd9




[Thermodynamics]

What does the VNA option in the keygen do? The Key is accepted as valid, but when I reboot it's still a SSA with no VNA features?

[tv84]

What does the VNA option in the keygen do? The Key is accepted as valid, but when I reboot it's still a SSA with no VNA features?

You self discovered the answer: nothing.

To get VNA you must crossflash to SVA.

[Thermodynamics]

What does the VNA option in the keygen do? The Key is accepted as valid, but when I reboot it's still a SSA with no VNA features?

You self discovered the answer: nothing.

To get VNA you must crossflash to SVA.

Indeed.

Does the VNA keygened code perchance enable the SSA to take official VNA firmwares?

[Bicurico]

No. You need to perform the cross flash as described in this thread.

[Thermodynamics]

K, was hoping there would be a less heart stopping way with the availiblity of a keygen

[Andrey_Ak]

Hello!

As I understood from the video, at 24:10 :  https://youtu.be/gkLciTsjGZg?si=PxZobFicirJqfxck&t=1450
Is Siglent significantly superior to Rigol ??  (Is Siglent much better than Rigol ??)

I want to purchase SSA3015X PLUS 1.5GHz
https://www.siglent.eu/product/2160699/siglent-ssa3015x-plus-1-5ghz-spectrum-analyzer-free-tg-license
Please tell me how it differs from SSA3021X 2.1GHz
https://www.siglent.eu/product/1137260/siglent-ssa3021x-2-1ghz-spectrum-analyzer-free-tg-license
I mean the differences in the series in the prefix "PLUS"...

And the second question, can SSA3015X PLUS be hacked to SSA3032X Plus or even to SSA3075X Plus?

[tautech]

Hello!

As I understood from the video, at 24:10 :  https://youtu.be/gkLciTsjGZg?si=PxZobFicirJqfxck&t=1450
Is Siglent significantly superior to Rigol ??  (Is Siglent much better than Rigol ??)

I want to purchase SSA3015X PLUS 1.5GHz
https://www.siglent.eu/product/2160699/siglent-ssa3015x-plus-1-5ghz-spectrum-analyzer-free-tg-license
Please tell me how it differs from SSA3021X 2.1GHz
https://www.siglent.eu/product/1137260/siglent-ssa3021x-2-1ghz-spectrum-analyzer-free-tg-license
I mean the differences in the series in the prefix "PLUS"...

And the second question, can SSA3015X PLUS be hacked to SSA3032X Plus or even to SSA3075X Plus?

All ^^ different HW to SVA1015X/SSA3015X Plus.
SSA3021X Plus is the entry level to higher capabilities. 

[Andrey_Ak]

I'm sorry, I didn't understand you..
I was asking what is the difference between SSA3021X and SSA3015X PLUS (SSA3021X PLUS, SSA3032X PLUS)?
Which series is better?
And I would also compare it with SVA1015X, what are the differences between SSA and SVA?

[tautech]

I'm sorry, I didn't understand you..
I was asking what is the difference between SSA3021X and SSA3015X PLUS (SSA3021X PLUS, SSA3032X PLUS)?
Which series is better?
And I would also compare it with SVA1015X, what are the differences between SSA and SVA?

SSA3000X are the earlier models whereas 3000X Plus versions and SSA3000X-R and SVA1000X are all touch screen capable.
SVA models are analyzers and single port VNA's as std equipment. These offer optional capability such as DTF and Modulation analysis. All/any optional functionality is available for 120hrs of instrument ON time.

[Andrey_Ak]

SSA3021X - 1.395$
SSA3015X Plus - 1.295$
SSA3021X Plus - 1.650$
SVA1015X - 1.690$

Thank you, so it makes sense to take SSA3015X Plus or SSA3021X Plus instead of SSA3021X ?
In the SSA3000X PLUS series , is the functionality exactly not cut down compared to SSA3000X ?

Is the SVA1015X series older than SSA3015X ?
And can you please explain what are the functions of VNA's and DTF and Modulation analysis? What are they for, examples?

I've never had a spectrum analyzer before and I don't know how to use it, and I don't understand this issue well. That's why I want to buy it to study this direction.

[Thermodynamics]

SSA3021X - 1.395$
SSA3015X Plus - 1.295$
SSA3021X Plus - 1.650$
SVA1015X - 1.690$

Thank you, so it makes sense to take SSA3015X Plus or SSA3021X Plus instead of SSA3021X ?
In the SSA3000X PLUS series , is the functionality exactly not cut down compared to SSA3000X ?

Is the SVA1015X series older than SSA3015X ?
And can you please explain what are the functions of VNA's and DTF and Modulation analysis? What are they for, examples?

I've never had a spectrum analyzer before and I don't know how to use it, and I don't understand this issue well. That's why I want to buy it to study this direction.

Yes, non-plus is the older line of instruments. It makes limited sense to buy these new for what I assume is general use when newer 'plus' instruments are so close in price and offer generally more features and performance.

Instruments ending in 15X have a slightly lower performance design and no ability to 'software upgrade bandwidth' in the future to increase utility. So again, for general use better going for the X21+ or better.

Without the ability to 'upgrade' features and bandwidth the range struggles to justify the price premium over some of the better NANO VNA boards and some of the headless SA solutions imo. THe SSA3021X+ seems to be the sweet spot, max hackability for the future with min cost today.

[Andrey_Ak]

I wonder if this means I can upgrade SSA3021X Plus to say SSA3032X Plus or even SSA3075X Plus?

And I won 't be able to upgrade the SSA3015X Plus device even to SSA3021X Plus ?

[tv84]

SSA3021X Plus to say SSA3032X Plus -> Yes.

All others -> No.

[tautech]

SSA3021X - 1.395$
SSA3015X Plus - 1.295$
SSA3021X Plus - 1.650$
SVA1015X - 1.690$

Thank you, so it makes sense to take SSA3015X Plus or SSA3021X Plus instead of SSA3021X ?

100% because of feature set and capabilities.

In the SSA3000X PLUS series , is the functionality exactly not cut down compared to SSA3000X ?

3000X is a very similar but older series and not touch/mouse capable and with lesser features.

Is the SVA1015X series older than SSA3015X ?

These are the same HW and SVA models were released first in which VNA was an option for a short time then with a price change VNA was included as Std.
Later SSA3015X Plus was released as Siglents entry level analyzer.

And can you please explain what are the functions of VNA's and DTF and Modulation analysis? What are they for, examples?

Many VNA functions can be performed with a analyzer with TG and a return loss/reflection bridge however a full featured VNA mode provides better and more measurements.
DTF = Distance to Fault, a reflection measurement where pulse reflection is measured in time and converted to distance.
MA is much as the name suggests where modulation characteristics are measured, displayed and decoded.
Example:

I've never had a spectrum analyzer before and I don't know how to use it, and I don't understand this issue well.

Just a few years back I had never even used an analyzer and being a reseller had to learn something about them so to be able to guide customers with their purchase decisions.
This same thread is where I started following on from the excellent examples from rf-loop early in this thread.
Start here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ssa3000x-spectrum-analyzers/msg958295/#msg958295

After getting to know a SSA3032X I then needed to become familiar with SVA1015X and VNA usage. When SVA1032X was released both 1015X and 3032X were later sold where today SVA1032X is still one of my most valued instruments.....although I also have a $ $ 4 port SNA5000A to also experiment with.

Follow my growth in these threads where I use these instruments for real tests and development.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/antenna-project-log/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/what-really-is-this-antenna/

[Andrey_Ak]

SSA3021X Plus to say SSA3032X Plus -> Yes.
All others -> No.

Thank you very much, because I wanted to buy SSA3015X Plus so that I could then hack it to SSA3021X Plus or SSA3032X Plus.
But it turns out it is impossible. Now I know, and I will take SSA3021X Plus to hack it to SSA3032X Plus.

[tv84]

Now I know, and I will take SSA3021X Plus to hack it to SSA3032X Plus.

You can even do better: go from SSA3021X Plus to SVA1032X.

[tautech]

Now I know, and I will take SSA3021X Plus to hack it to SSA3032X Plus.

You can even do better: go from SSA3021X Plus to SVA1032X.

Andrey, sorry but you have even more study to do here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sva1015x-1-5ghz-spectrum-vector-network-analyzer-(coming)/

[Martin72]

I think I will buy a spectrum analyzer, I don't have one yet.
And it could be quick, before Christmas, as a present to myself.
I had to deal with SA at work, pre-compliance tests according to specifications, and am currently reading up on the subject.
I won't be able to do much with it privately yet, but in the future, hence the intention to buy.
Question:
Is the SSA3021Xplus still recommended, are there any known issues with it?
I came across this model because it can probably be converted to a VNA.
If this is still valid and can be done without major difficulties, I read about calibration data that should/must be imported, I would like that less.

[tv84]

Is the SSA3121Xplus still recommended, are there any known issues with it?

I wouldn't recommend a SSA3121Xplus as it would be very hard to find, unless you know someone who prints good stickers. 

The SSA3021XPlus is the better/cheaper option you have (specially when you turn it into a SVA1032 as everyone else).

If you're not thinking in going up to a FPC1500 (Rudi's opinion) which costs double, I think there is no other choice.

Unless you have the MXO5 budget available... 

Edit: Well, in second thoughts, you can go for the Rigol RSA3015N and convert to RSA5032N which is unbeatable. But don't know if you want to change the chinese team...

[Martin72]

Ah, 0, not 1...was too late in the evening for me.

The price for the 3021plus is is the maximum in this case, but I'm not yet too familiar with it and don't do enough with it.
If that changes, you can always upgrade to a better device.

[tv84]

Ah, 0, not 1...was too late in the evening for me.

The price for the 3021plus is is the maximum in this case, but I'm not yet too familiar with it and don't do enough with it.
If that changes, you can always upgrade to a better device.

See my edited msg.

[Andrey_Ak]

Hello! I purchased SSA3021X Plus, I want to flash it, hack it to SSA3032X Plus.
But here they write that it is possible to hack better, to flash to SVA1032,
but I still can't figure out what is better or worse than SVA1032 compared to SSA3032X Plus..

[DL4JY]

did you check the data sheets?