Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's

[BirdManPhil]

I just bought the 804x and want to unlock everything on it. Is there a video that shows the process?

[TomKatt]

I just bought the 804x and want to unlock everything on it. Is there a video that shows the process?

Check out the Unified Keygen Script for Siglent thread here - in the first post you will see code box with the Python script that generates the keys you need.  If you aren't familiar with Python or don't have a programming environment just copy that code and paste it into this online compiler.

The method used for the SDS800X HD is the same one that has been used for the SDS1104X-E scope.  You can access the SCPI on the SDS800X HD by putting it on your network and browsing to the IP address assigned to the scope.

Edit - alternatively, here is a link to a script setup for the SDS800X-HD.  Edit line 53 with your scope's ID,  and line 58 with your scope's SN and then click RUN at the top of the script.  Before continuing, enter MCBD? into the SCPI command box on the scope web page and ensure that the result displayed matches the 70M code generated by the script - because the SDS804X HD is a 70 MHz scope, this ensures that the script is working correctly.  You can then proceed to upgrade your scope to 100 MHz and finally 200 MHz if desired.  I understand it is suggested to upgrade the bandwidths incrementallly 70->100->200 rather than jumping straight to 200 Mhz.  Also gho to the Util menu on the scope and do the Reset to factory defaults after each BW upgrade step.  When you are done, let the scope warm up and run a full calibration.

The option keys are entered on the scope screen itself, not the web page.  I don't recall if you use AWG or FG for the function generator key, but one will work and the other won't lol (I think it's AWG).  The MSO or 16LA option is for the logic analyzer.

I would copy and paste the keys into a text file somewhere and add your SN and ID for future reference - that way if you ever want to return the scope to it's original condition you have all the information and don't need to run the script again.

[BirdManPhil]

Ty! I saw the first post with the script and it made no sense to me but the way they explain the process in the second link from makermatrix fills in all the gaps! Thats exactly what I needed

[TomKatt]

Ty! I saw the first post with the script and it made no sense to me but the way they explain the process in the second link from makermatrix fills in all the gaps! Thats exactly what I needed

See my edit above if you haven't already - might be a little easier.

The SDS800X HD is slightly different webpage controls, but the idea is the same as the SDS1104X-E.

[astromeier]

You can also read this for SDS800X scopes:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds804x-hd-same-upgrade-scripts/msg5530108/#msg5530108

[watchmaker]

I just read the manual and PDF for these.  Are these oscilloscopes or a specialized computer that happens to display waveforms?

Long way from Dumont!!  I am grateful that technology gives me something positive to focus on.

[2N3055]

Are these oscilloscopes or a specialized computer that happens to display waveforms?

A bit of both actually...

[tautech]

New firmware for SDS800X HD models

Version： V1.1.3.8
69 MB
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/1.1.3.8.zip

Release notes
Optimize UI, change "on/off" to "On/Off".
Solve the problem that some numbers from 200-223 cannot be entered in the first byte of the IP address.
Standard software functions of FG and LA.

[BillyO]

Solve the problem that some numbers from 200-223 cannot be entered in the first byte of the IP address.

Yay! 

[2N3055]

Solve the problem that some numbers from 200-223 cannot be entered in the first byte of the IP address.

Yay! 

[electr_peter]

SDS800X HD in zoom mode with Fixed Offset for Vertical Ref behaves strangely (1.1.3.6/3.8.12 FW) Utility > Menu > System Setting > Reference Pos > Vertical Ref [Fixed Position/Fixed Offset]

Setup - square wave 0V/3V input signal, edge trigger at 0.3V. Make signal full screen, then enable zoom mode and try to focus on the very top part of square wave. With vertical reference set to "Fixed Offset" zooming vertically "moves down" zoom box in level (!) and requires vertical offset adjustment.

Is it expected behavior? I don't see how this is useful.
IMO Vertical Ref option should not affect zoom mode at all and zoom mode should work as it currently does with "Fixed Position" setting.

[TomKatt]

New firmware for SDS800X HD models

Standard software functions of FG and LA.

What does this mean exactly?  I think the recently released SDS1000X FW had a similar comment.

Edit - did Siglent make these options standard features?  I note they no longer appear in the Software Options menu…. Prior I thought they were listed as either XX or Permanent if they were enabled.  Now the only option displayed on my SDS824X HD is the Power Analysis feature.

This should be the big news!

[tautech]

New firmware for SDS800X HD models

Standard software functions of FG and LA.

What does this mean exactly?  I think the recently released SDS1000X FW had a similar comment.

Edit - did Siglent make these options standard features?  I note they no longer appear in the Software Options menu…. Prior I thought they were listed as either XX or Permanent if they were enabled.  Now the only option displayed on my SDS824X HD is the Power Analysis feature.

Noticed this also.

Guessing, maybe these are moves to install the licensing into the FG and LA devices, TBH, IDK.
But latest pricelists don't seem to indicate this. 

[TomKatt]

New firmware for SDS800X HD models

Standard software functions of FG and LA.

What does this mean exactly?  I think the recently released SDS1000X FW had a similar comment.

Edit - did Siglent make these options standard features?  I note they no longer appear in the Software Options menu…. Prior I thought they were listed as either XX or Permanent if they were enabled.  Now the only option displayed on my SDS824X HD is the Power Analysis feature.

Noticed this also.

Guessing, maybe these are moves to install the licensing into the FG and LA devices, TBH, IDK.
But latest pricelists don't seem to indicate this. 

That seems like it would be a major undertaking and affect all the devices already in use?

But Siglent has a history of doing this - didn’t they originally require licenses for the decoder features on the SDS1000X-E series and subsequently made them standard options?

[tautech]

New firmware for SDS800X HD models

Standard software functions of FG and LA.

What does this mean exactly?  I think the recently released SDS1000X FW had a similar comment.

Edit - did Siglent make these options standard features?  I note they no longer appear in the Software Options menu…. Prior I thought they were listed as either XX or Permanent if they were enabled.  Now the only option displayed on my SDS824X HD is the Power Analysis feature.

Noticed this also.

Guessing, maybe these are moves to install the licensing into the FG and LA devices, TBH, IDK.
But latest pricelists don't seem to indicate this. 

That seems like it would be a major undertaking and affect all the devices already in use?

But Siglent has a history of doing this - didn’t they originally require licenses for the decoder features on the SDS1000X-E series and subsequently made them standard options?

No, before X-E.

IIRC SDS1202X-E was first with free decoding ~2016 when it was released. Later all models offered all the basic decodes free, I2C, SPI, UART, CAN and LIN.

[BillyO]

Edit - did Siglent make these options standard features?  I note they no longer appear in the Software Options menu…. Prior I thought they were listed as either XX or Permanent if they were enabled.  Now the only option displayed on my SDS824X HD is the Power Analysis feature.

This should be the big news!

It was.  I reported this in post #1525 back on June 7th.  Nailed the timing too.

 

I just heard a rumor that within 3 weeks, Siglent is going to roll out a firmware update that will unlock the AWG and MSO capabilities of some of their oscilloscopes including these models. However, they will be increasing the cost of the hardware required to use these options.  Has anyone else heard this, or is it old news?

If this is true, now would be a good time to get the MSO and/or AWG hardware.

Now the price of the hardware is supposed to go up.  I guess folks should have listened.   

[TomKatt]

It was.  I reported this in post #1525 back on June 7th.  Nailed the timing too.

Now the price of the hardware is supposed to go up.  I guess folks should have listened.   

Good call !

Given the limitations of the SAG1021, if they raise the price by any significant amount it only makes the stand alone products that much more appealing. The much better SDG1032 is only about $100 more on Aliexpress….

As for the MSO, I’ve always felt a dedicated LA beats the built-in option for similar reasons.

[KungFuJosh]

You should avoid getting Siglent gear from Aliexpress, it may not have a warranty. If you buy it from an authorized reseller, you usually get a 3-year warranty.

[TomKatt]

You should avoid getting Siglent gear from Aliexpress, it may not have a warranty. If you buy it from an authorized reseller, you usually get a 3-year warranty.

Excellent point.  I purchase all my gear from authorized resellers myself for warranty and support reasons.  I was just trying to make the point that the price difference makes the SAG1021 less attractive.

[BillyO]

Given the limitations of the SAG1021, if they raise the price by any significant amount it only makes the stand alone products that much more appealing. The much better SDG1032 is only about $100 more on Aliexpress….

As for the MSO, I’ve always felt a dedicated LA beats the built-in option for similar reasons.

As a rule I don't use AliExpress for expensive stuff.  I've had generally good luck with shopping there, but..

Maybe some day I'll take the plunge but my personal Ali limit is $100.

As to the SAG1021, I agree.  I have the SDG1032 with "improvements" and that fills my coupled AWG needs.

Currently I use dedicated LA solutions too, but I can see the benefit to having the digital and the analog signals on the same screen and synchronized.  There are some cheap after-market solutions for my SDS2104X-P though (I think).  I might pull the trigger on one of them some day.

[BillyO]

Excellent point.  I purchase all my gear from authorized resellers myself for warranty and support reasons.  I was just trying to make the point that the price difference makes the SAG1021 less attractive.

It looks like Siglent NA are selling the SAG1021I for only $165 right now.  I know nothing about it, but that seems pretty reasonable.

[TomKatt]

Excellent point.  I purchase all my gear from authorized resellers myself for warranty and support reasons.  I was just trying to make the point that the price difference makes the SAG1021 less attractive.

It looks like Siglent NA are selling the SAG1021I for only $165 right now.  I know nothing about it, but that seems pretty reasonable.

$165 may be reasonable for what it is, but if the rumor holds and they increase the price it becomes less so.

[KungFuJosh]

That's without the license. It's more with it: https://www.siglent.eu/product/1148077/siglent-sag1021i-25mhz-function-arbitrary-waveform-generator-license-key

Another good reason for a standalone unit.

[BillyO]

In NA the license, which is no longer needed for any AWG, but was needed with a stand alone unit too, is/was $115.

I wonder what the new price for SAG will be, or even if they set a new price?