Siglent SDS7000A 3 and 4 GHz 12 bit DSO's

[Martin72]

Yep, everything is clear now, let´s wait and see.

[EEVblog]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds7000a-dsos-coming/msg4642900/#msg4642900

I wonder what the unit cost is of that 8GHz front end ASIC compared to say Rigol's 800MHz ASIC?

[tautech]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds7000a-dsos-coming/msg4642900/#msg4642900

I wonder what the unit cost is of that 8GHz front end ASIC compared to say Rigol's 800MHz ASIC?

Does it matter ?
3 new 12bit models will soon come and IMO this new ASIC has given Siglent some leverage in the 12bit ADC market to get pricing down.
This is evident with reduced SDS2000X HD cost and if the proposed cost of the 2 GSa/s SDS800X HD is to believed then the world is a changing……and rapidly.

[Antonio90]

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds7000a-dsos-coming/msg4642900/#msg4642900

I wonder what the unit cost is of that 8GHz front end ASIC compared to say Rigol's 800MHz ASIC?

Does it matter ?
3 new 12bit models will soon come and IMO this new ASIC has given Siglent some leverage in the 12bit ADC market to get pricing down.
This is evident with reduced SDS2000X HD cost and if the proposed cost of the 2 GSa/s SDS800X HD is to believed then the world is a changing……and rapidly.

I find that pricing taking effect in EU hard to believe TBH. If that's the case it will be a game-changer indeed, as that kind of capability is missing even from scopes 5x the price.

[points2]

3 new 12bit models will soon come...

Hi tautech,
3 new 12b models !? Oulala !
Do you mean some 12bits versions of the SDS5000 & SDS6000 series ?
I plan to replace my SDS2104Plus(converted to 2504Xplus ), I would need something like a SDS6204A (https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Siglent-SDS6204A.html).
If I understand correctly what you mean, it's a bad idea to buy a SDS6000 for Christmas, isn't it ?

[tautech]

3 new 12bit models will soon come...

Hi tautech,
3 new 12b models !? Oulala !
Do you mean some 12bits versions of the SDS5000 & SDS6000 series ?
I plan to replace my SDS2104Plus(converted to 2504Xplus ), I would need something like a SDS6204A (https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Siglent-SDS6204A.html).
If I understand correctly what you mean, it's a bad idea to buy a SDS6000 for Christmas, isn't it ?

Western SDS6000A are officially only 8bit however they do offer additional ERES bits beyond what other 8bit DSOs do.
Forecast 12bit releases for 2024
SDS800X HD
SDS1000X HD
SDS3000X HD
There’s limited info about all these on the forum.

[hpw]

If the 7000 performs as expected I shall be purchasing one, as one of the chaps that works with keeps 'borrowing' my Wavepro HD 

So any upcoming updates on this SDS7000A gear??

Hp

[Ulrich.G]

So any upcoming updates on this SDS7000A gear??

In the meantime there is an 8Ghz bandwidth model on the Chinese webside, when did that happen?

[2N3055]

So any upcoming updates on this SDS7000A gear??

In the meantime there is an 8Ghz bandwidth model on the Chinese webside, when did that happen?

In the meantime ?

Datasheet publishing date is 23.Jan.24.

[coromonadalix]

With the help of Tautech

In North America / Canada / Quebec city,     i'll be able in a few days, to borrow a 3Ghz demo sent to my company .... to evaluate it, with pico seconds events ...  and see the possibility to craft our own software to control it with lan / scpi ....

So far very pleased with many Siglent instruments  ...

I have to wait for the pico generator to come back to us from certification, to schedule it


Can't wait to have it in my hands   ..  and could easily end with a purchase ...

[Construct]

With the help of Tautech

In North America / Canada / Quebec city,     i'll be able in a few days, to borrow a 3Ghz demo sent to my company .... to evaluate it, with pico seconds events ...  and see the possibility to craft our own software to control it with lan / scpi ....

So far very pleased with many Siglent instruments  ...

I have to wait for the pico generator to come back to us from certification, to schedule it


Can't wait to have it in my hands   ..  and could easily end with a purchase ...

Very cool.

Looking forward to your results.

[coromonadalix]

received a 3gig demo unit

only thing so far to play with

I have an picolab 45 picosecond generator 4050b  and a Siglent SSG3032X

wow  thins thing is huge in person, the relay clicks are strong  loll  boot pretty fast

This puppy has BNC inputs  witch play trick on me, since i'm fully wired in sma .... i use an old tek scope  tds7254b series with their active input TCA  adapters   

[Martin72]

Pics, pics, we want pics...

[coromonadalix]

loll  here's one, but no tear down  loll  boy i would love to   loll


have to take measurements   etc ....

just to get the ''know how"   for an old tech like me  loll     I always have some problems with unified channels controls 

Multi touch screen it seems,  i can zoom with fingers  loll    the screen protector is glossy, very glossy ...

[2N3055]

loll  here's one, but no tear down  loll  boy i would love to   loll


have to take measurements   etc ....

just to get the ''know how"   for an old tech like me  loll     I always have some problems with unified channels controls 

Multi touch screen it seems,  i can zoom with fingers  loll    the screen protector is glossy, very glossy ...

On all of the touch Siglents you can zoom with fingers..

That is removable protector for transport.. End user removes it.. Means you got a pristine new scope for test.
Screen is not glossy.

[coromonadalix]

yep sorry     I was not clear enough  ....

Like a kid i did not read user manual,  too excited to play with  loll       silly me 

Intrigued by the TCXO  option who can be added,  i'm not sure if it already equipped  with,  i did not read the system info / status       loll

My IT   guy is the second in queue, he want to read the programation manual / references   and try some commands tomorrow

We will develop a special software with it,   to automate some tests and generate certifications  ....   

[2N3055]

yep sorry     I was not clear enough  ....

Like a kid i did not read user manual,  too excited to play with  loll       silly me 

Intrigued by the TCXO  option who can be added,  i'm not sure if it already equipped  with,  i did not read the system info / status       loll

My IT   guy is the second in queue, he want to read the programation manual / references   and try some commands tomorrow

We will develop a special software with it,   to automate some tests and generate certifications  ....   

Not criticizing, just saying..have fun.
TCXO is small module in the back. You can see if it is installed.

[coromonadalix]

non taken

sadly   i can not remove the back panel  i think there is some hidden screws behind the rear overlay   sadly no internals to show 

the TCXO  OCXO is not present,  it as an look a like pcie 1x  slot


some crude compare between an old tek  loll at 1/3  of the weight  loll

[2N3055]

non taken

sadly   i can not remove the back panel  i think there is some hidden screws behind the rear overlay   sadly no internals to show 

the TCXO  OCXO is not present,  it as an look a like pcie 1x  slot


some crude compare between an old tek  loll at 1/3  of the weight  loll

Yeah, that's no to TCXO.
That is a big scope..

[Martin72]

A dream....
Which will always remain one as long as I don't win the lottery.

[KungFuJosh]

A dream....
Which will always remain one as long as I don't win the lottery.

If you do win, get me one too please. 😉

[tautech]

the TCXO  OCXO is not present,  it as an look a like pcie 1x  slot

From the US website

Pt# 10M_OCXO_L

[hpw]

have to take measurements   etc ....

Does your demo gear comes with Jitter Options? And please measure with accurate sources as an OXCO with know PN figures...

Interesting would be to connect simple the 10MHz Reference to the input and do some large FFT to see any 1/f figures

[tautech]

received a 3gig demo unit

Please tell, with cooling 3 fans, how quiet/noisy is this unit ?

[coromonadalix]

With the fans,   very tolerable,   you have 4  in it,   the one we don't see is the mobo fan

the SDS1204x-e we have are more noisy,  their fan pwm frequency is slightly higher, i could say "we hear the flow"  ?

3 meter apart, the sds1204x-e and sds7000a,     SDS7000a  is almost silent  wow

Digital inputs,   Pcie 1x connector



I wont compare it with the old tek as the noisiest source, 9 fans on one side  loll                this one is whispering  loll

Fans start faster like a server 76db and slow down to 51db / taken from 1 feet behind the scope.


Some of options :

Screen test, Led tests, Keyboard test,  Developer mode (with password)

Self calibration after 10 min warm up,  take maybe a good 10 minutes or more,   comes with a info bar percentage (% Done) on the screen


Quotation request sent  for the 3 and 4 gig  .....


some system infos pictures and options,  not sure  if we could get most of them on purchase package ?     loll  or some magic ?

not sure if we can call a touch screen calibration ? ,  i would say  slightly off,  still in the tick boxes  but ....