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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #875 on: July 10, 2024, 10:55:55 pm »
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Software ver.: 1.0.3.3
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #876 on: July 10, 2024, 11:01:26 pm »
Hi,

Set scope to default values( default setting is in the acquisition menu folder), then try again.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #877 on: July 10, 2024, 11:05:08 pm »
Hello,

I also have 1.0.3.3. Enclosed is the picture of me. It is convenient to use the web interface. Then you can get a screenshot by pressing a button.

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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #878 on: July 10, 2024, 11:10:46 pm »
@Martin72; I did it but the result did not change, it gets better after a few restarts. I can't use it like this all the time.
@egonotto, i have not cable connection.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #879 on: July 10, 2024, 11:14:35 pm »
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it gets better after a few restarts.

 ???

"Better" or the way it should be?
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #880 on: July 10, 2024, 11:15:15 pm »
Hello,

I have also had a problem with an incorrect Stdev measurement a few times. Switching the scope off and on always helped.

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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #881 on: July 10, 2024, 11:16:01 pm »
Note the difference in frequency values between what you two and Pasha are testing. Pasha's examples are significantly different frequencies.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #882 on: July 10, 2024, 11:17:43 pm »
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Switching the scope off and on always helped.

But that should not be THE solution, then something is not quite right.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #883 on: July 10, 2024, 11:20:05 pm »
I will try to install the published firmware,
@KungFuJosh changing the frequency doesn't help much.
@Martin72; better "sorry : the way it should be"
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #884 on: July 10, 2024, 11:20:16 pm »
Note the difference in frequency values between what you two and Pasha are testing. Pasha's examples are significantly different frequencies.

At first he had 4Mhz, which I also used for my pictures.
Then he had 10Mhz and finally 1Mhz....
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #885 on: July 10, 2024, 11:25:20 pm »
Note the difference in frequency values between what you two and Pasha are testing. Pasha's examples are significantly different frequencies.

At first he had 4Mhz, which I also used for my pictures.
Then he had 10Mhz and finally 1Mhz....

10MHz and 20MHz. Another had something like 27kHz vs 349MHz.

Look at both numbers on each screenshot.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #886 on: July 10, 2024, 11:27:47 pm »
This is what was (incorrectly) measured, look at the hardware counter.
I used this as a guide and set my generator accordingly.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #887 on: July 10, 2024, 11:30:34 pm »
Hello,

yes, that is correct. The important question is whether it is a software problem that can be rectified with new firmware.
Pasha's last picture had 1 MHz like my last picture. But that shouldn't have any influence on the error.

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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #888 on: July 10, 2024, 11:32:20 pm »
Hello,

sometimes the setting is a bit tricky. If I only change the source, this is often ignored. However, if I reactivate the phase, it adopts the setting.

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Please document this in detail and if it it is just a 3kX HD issue or if it can be replicated in other models.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #889 on: July 10, 2024, 11:37:00 pm »
This has existed since 2000Xplus, and I complained about it at the time.
In my opinion, it also makes no sense to differentiate between "Simple" and "Advance".
Measuring point 1, which source, which value, done.
Measuring point 2, which source, which value, done.
And so on, but that's not how it works with siglent.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #890 on: July 10, 2024, 11:38:12 pm »
I upgraded to 1.0.3.7 but the problem is still the same.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #891 on: July 10, 2024, 11:51:38 pm »
Hello,

when I changed the source for the phase measurement, the change was ignored. I had closed the menu with the X. I then noticed that the phase was sometimes deactivated in the menu. Then I always reactivated the phase and it worked.

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PS: The name of the screenshots is now generated differently. Previously it was e.g. ScreenImg (97) now it is e.g. ScreenImg - 2024-07-11T014135.631.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #892 on: July 11, 2024, 01:47:07 am »
This is what was (incorrectly) measured, look at the hardware counter.
I used this as a guide and set my generator accordingly.

I'm curious if them being measured incorrectly is related to his issue. You and Ego didn't have that problem.
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #893 on: July 11, 2024, 06:42:52 am »
Hello,

when I changed the source for the phase measurement, the change was ignored. I had closed the menu with the X. I then noticed that the phase was sometimes deactivated in the menu. Then I always reactivated the phase and it worked.

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PS: The name of the screenshots is now generated differently. Previously it was e.g. ScreenImg (97) now it is e.g. ScreenImg - 2024-07-11T014135.631.

When you open Measurement window you have to select source and then measurement to apply change.. That is how it was implemented.
In Simple measurement mode, there are no 2ch measurements.


This is something that simply works and I have no idea why @Pasha sees this.

I would like to point out to a Analysis menu -> Analysis Gate.
If analysis Gate is set to just a fraction of memory it will measure only there.

Also, if in Measure->Config ->Amplitude strategy and Thresholds need to be set to proper settings


I would recommend @Pasha to start a scope while repeatedly pressing Math button during boot.
That should restore scope to full factory settings.
And try again.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #894 on: July 11, 2024, 10:41:48 am »
@2N3055, start a scope while repeatedly pressing Math button during boot.
not responce
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #895 on: July 11, 2024, 10:54:24 am »
@2N3055, start a scope while repeatedly pressing Math button during boot.
not responce

Hello,

please measure Stdev for an active channel without having anything connected to the input .

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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #896 on: July 11, 2024, 10:57:58 am »
@2N3055, start a scope while repeatedly pressing Math button during boot.
not responce

I assure you it works..
You need to try again.
Just keep on pressing..
It will not say anything but scope will have all user set options reset to factory..
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #897 on: July 11, 2024, 11:28:48 am »
@2N3055, i wil try.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #898 on: July 11, 2024, 08:56:16 pm »
@2N3055, It worked for a while, but when I restarted it went back to its previous state
 
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Re: Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD
« Reply #899 on: July 11, 2024, 09:05:46 pm »
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