Siglent SDS3000X HD and upgraded SDS1000X HD

[egonotto]

Hallo,

Siglent SPL2016 Logic Probes now cost €505.75 at Batronix. If I remember correctly that was about 400 € last week and the Siglent SAG1021I now costs 284,41 € and if I remember correctly that was under 200 € last week.

Best regards
egonotto

[TomKatt]

I wonder if this was always some kind of pricing structure to make the cost look cheaper because the total cost was split between software license and hw price...   Also, perhaps Siglent is catching on to the 'upgrades' available for these products and wants to recoup lost profits?

[Dennis Frie]

Yeah, they just increased the prices for the hardware needed.
Guess it makes sense, to include the price of the "license" in the hardware price instead and allow the hardware to be used accross multiple scopes without needing extra licenses.

[Ulrich.G]

Siglent SPL2016 Logic Probes now cost €505.75 at Batronix. If I remember correctly that was about 400 € last week and the Siglent SAG1021I now costs 284,41 € and if I remember correctly that was under 200 € last week.

I'm still happy that I convinced Welectron to give me the SPL2016 Logic Probe instead of the promoted bandwidth extension, when I purchased my SDS2000x HD in December 2022

[2N3055]

I wonder if this was always some kind of pricing structure to make the cost look cheaper because the total cost was split between software license and hw price...   Also, perhaps Siglent is catching on to the 'upgrades' available for these products and wants to recoup lost profits?

No, it might be that everybody was complaining why they have to buy both hardware and license.
They wanted for the license to be included in hardware purchase.

Now you buy hardware, and on any scope that supports it it works.

[rfindley]

Made Option 16LA and Option FG Standard

Haha!  When I bought my SDS3000X HD and 16LA, I was inquiring about the possibility of extending the SDS2000X's option bundle promotion to the SDS3000X HD, which would tip my choice over to the SDS3000X HD.  I mainly needed the 16LA, didn't care about the rest of the bundle.

The salesman said he couldn't do the bundle, but he worked out a price that included the 16LA software license for free.  I really hope he wasn't aware of this upcoming change, because he made it sound like he was working hard to convince his chain of command to let him make that deal.

But, if I remember correctly, at least I still got a slight discount on the 16LA probe, too.  It wasn't much, but every bit helps.

[KungFuJosh]

Somehow it feels wrong to buy my Christmas present in July 

"Christmas in July" is actually a thing. 🤷😉

[Martin72]

I guess more people are willing to spend more money than I thought - the 3000s are already sold out at Batronix....

Siglent SPL2016 Logic Probes now cost €505.75 at Batronix.

They don't make their money with scopes, but with overpriced accessories...

[mathstudi]

I guess more people are willing to spend more money than I thought - the 3000s are already sold out at Batronix....

Siglent SPL2016 Logic Probes now cost €505.75 at Batronix.

They don't make their money with scopes, but with overpriced accessories...

Wow, bought my SPL2016 Logic Probes from Batronix in April 2021 for 322€.

[egonotto]

....
Wow, bought my SPL2016 Logic Probes from Batronix in April 2021 for 322€.

Hello,

21 hours ago you would have gotten a Siglent SDS2XHD-BND (inclusive SPL2016 Logic Probes) for € 235,00 plus VAT when buying a SDS2000X HD.

Best regards
egonotto

[ebastler]

They don't make their money with scopes, but with overpriced accessories...

Isn't that how all accessories work, business-wise? Look at any car price list, or look at you favorite restaurant's drink prices... 

[pasha]

I cannot measure phase between channel 1 and channel 4, I think there is a problem, can you try it with 3000hd?

[Martin72]

A little more information would be helpful, which test situation, which scope, screenshot....

[2N3055]

I cannot measure phase between channel 1 and channel 4, I think there is a problem, can you try it with 3000hd?

No problems whatsoever..

 Did you set up Source A to C1 and Source B to C4 correctly?

[pasha]

yes, selected ch1 and ch4, measure Phase(c1,c4)

[Martin72]

Measuring gate set as default?(whole screen)
Otherwise I can post a measurement tomorrow, it's too late for me today.

[pasha]

The situation is the same when I select other channels.
If I restart it, it takes the correct measurement, but if I add a new channel selection, it still doesn't measure.

[Martin72]

Aha....
I have now tried it after all, without any problems.
C1,C4 and then deleted and then C4,C1

[pasha]

Freq(c1) and Freq(c4) problem.

[Martin72]

Could you please make real screenshots(save button), not a photo of the screen ?
So that people can at least see what you have set, if you don't tell them.
"doesn't work" and then just a photo of the scope is simply not enough to be able to provide any help.
Test setup, settings on the scope, firmware version of the scope... Things like that are useful.

[egonotto]

Hello,

sometimes the setting is a bit tricky. If I only change the source, this is often ignored. However, if I reactivate the phase, it adopts the setting.

Best regards
egonotto

[Martin72]

That's another thing, the basic operation, which sometimes drives you mad.

[egonotto]

Hello,

why pasha has a problem is not clear to me. Enclosed is a picture that might be similar to his attitude.

Best regards
egonotto

[Martin72]

We didn´t know his settings, we didn´t know the firmware version.
It should be at least 1.0.3.3, the initial release.
(Mine came with an elder pre-version (yours too...) )

[egonotto]

Hello,

according to his picture, he has channels 1 and 4 active and feeds them with the same signal. I have recreated this in a similar way.
The frequency shouldn't matter, so I didn't change my two generator outputs for convenience.

Best regards
egonotto