Siglent SDS2000X Plus

[balnazzar]

I just received my SDS2104X Plus from Saelig today! 

Quick question, did anyone else have air bubbles trapped under the screen protector on their units? There are quite a few air bubbles on mine, not exactly sure how to get rid of them...

You can get a tempered glass screen protector here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000008551527.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.312f1802LRoG9y

Man, he was joking...

But if we want to be serious, you are not supposed to put any aftermarket screen film on those matte displays. Their coating is already kind of a sceen protector, and putting another on it will just increase reflections and cut brightness/contrast..

[BillyO]

FYI...

Siglent NA is not showing the protocol upgrades as part of the promotion anymore.  The price is still $999 for the 2104XP

[highpower]

The "screen protector" is for shipping only.  Remove it and toss it out.

Enjoy your scope!

Oh woops 
Thank you for the tip, the screen looks great now!

Yep, now only Siglent touch screen devices come with a display overlay whereas once everything did.

Hmmm.... I was wondering why my new Siglent SDM3055 didn't come with a screen protector on it. 
I guess that answers that question.

Then again the Rigol DP932A I just bought (w/ touch screen) didn't come with a screen protector either. 

[Martin72]

Then you got  used ones...

[highpower]

Then you got  used ones...

Well if that's true, then TEquipment is doing an outstanding job of repackaging used equipment to look like it came straight out of the factory!

And yes... I am being facetious. 

[mwb1100]

Then you got  used ones...

Well if that's true, then TEquipment is doing an outstanding job of repackaging used equipment to look like it came straight out of the factory!

And yes... I am being facetious. 

Saelig included a note when I ordered an oscilloscope from them that said they opened the packaging for the device to inspect that it's A-OK.  I don't know if they do this for all equipment.  Probably only certain price tiers or products that get more than usual returns.  I can't remember if the inspection was evident. Even if it was, I probably didn't notice - I just remember the note.

I can't remember if TEquipment does something similar; it's been a while since I ordered from them.

[tautech]

So if you weren't entitled, you wouldn't have used it, right? 

You have mail.

I even have e-mail!

balnazzar has asked several questions about the X Plus so we have been sharing mail.

Today was about max frequency for X Plus and confusion about the BW limiters....yes there are multiple !
Max frequency in the west is 350 MHz from SDS2354X Plus but the 500 MHz BW upgrade can be applied however top model in China is the 500 MHz SDS2504X Plus of which when 3 channels are active an automatic 350 MHz BW filter is activated.
So for the 500 MHz model, the 4 BW filters consist of none (Full), 350 MHz (when 3 channels are active), 200 or 20 MHz.
Full and 350 MHz are automatically switched between and 200 and 20 MHz user selected with Full being default.

Makes perfect sense when you can see the big picture.

[BillyO]

Thanks Rob - thought you were referring to something else.

BTW, how long did the advanced decode licenses last as a part of the recent (current?) promotion, and why were they withdrawn?  Did Siglent share their reasoning with you guys?

[tautech]

Thanks Rob - thought you were referring to something else.

BTW, how long did the advanced decode licenses last as a part of the recent (current?) promotion, and why were they withdrawn?  Did Siglent share their reasoning with you guys?

It seems only USA has dropped the addition free decodes whereas it's very clear for EU and Oceania (HQ) they are still part of the promotional offer.
https://int.siglent.com/info/detail-63.html
https://www.siglenteu.com/news-article/sds2000x-plus-super-phosphor-oscilloscopes-promotions/

[Peter_O]

Do all of you keep the 2000x plus on the bench, or which would be a fitting hard case?

Siglent offers a soft bag. But I'd prefer some hard case where other boxes could be stacked.

Most of the typical hard cases are 15cm high outside, which is slightly to low for the depth of the 2000x plus.

I found this one only:
https://www.peaktech.de/uk/PeakTech-P-7340-Universal-case-with-cube-foam-550x200x400-mm/P-7340

which is kind of too big in the other dimensions.

[Martin72]

At work I´ve bought the BAG-2 (relative soft)for service travels, in private I got a hard case which also fits for my HD.
EDIT:

Here.

[tautech]

Yes Siglent NA saw the value in sourcing their own hard case and theirs is quite deep at a little over 7" (~190mm)
https://siglentna.com/product/hard-shell-carry-case/
However it's a NA product only as I tried to get some. 

After a few minutes looking the 430 x 350 x 190 size here seems to be an equivalent:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004280447213.html

Datasheet measurements for SDS2000X Plus are 352 mm ×224 mm ×111 mm

[balnazzar]

Good, but too expensive. It's a damn plastic box with foam..

[tautech]

Good, but too expensive. It's a damn plastic box with foam..

You think.
Well this is $20 cheaper:
https://siglentna.com/product/bag-s2/

Is it really unreasonable to spend the cost of a 500 MHz probe on a travel/storage case for a scope 10x that value ?

[Peter_O]

Yes Siglent NA saw the value in sourcing their own hard case and theirs is quite deep at a little over 7" (~190mm)
https://siglentna.com/product/hard-shell-carry-case/
However it's a NA product only as I tried to get some. 

After a few minutes looking the 430 x 350 x 190 size here seems to be an equivalent:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004280447213.html

Datasheet measurements for SDS2000X Plus are 352 mm ×224 mm ×111 mm

thx, Martin, Rob for the links.

So it's difficult to find something cool.
Just did another search in DE and found a similar case here, but no better one:
https://www.thomann.de/intl/flyht_pro_wp_safe_box_5_ip65.htm
not cheaper. 

Maybe I should start the MPCNC and make a fitting box like those on the pic attached.

[tautech]

I've been looking for a few online things lately and it seems darn near everything has jumped in price....except SDS2000X Plus it seems. 

[Martin72]

Peter_O,

This is the case I´ve bought on amazon:

Type 5000

[markone]

Hi to everyone,

i do have some questions about SDS2000x plus :

1) do serial decoders accept analog channels as input/s ?
2) do the serial decoders support triggering on data content ? (ie trigger upon a sequence of bytes out of async serial decoder)
3) is it possible to operate with an external program to store LA traces and / or decoders outputs ?

[Martin72]

Hi,

1) do serial decoders accept analog channels as input/s ?

yes.

2) do the serial decoders support triggering on data content ? (ie trigger upon a sequence of bytes out of async serial decoder)

3) is it possible to operate with an external program to store LA traces and / or decoders outputs ?

Afaik yes...

(pics taken from our siglent at work today (not hacked)

[markone]

-snip

Afaik yes...

Hi Martin,

thank you for your time, what i have understood is that serial decoder is able to make use of normal analog inputs, but i do not see a menu for trigger mechanism on serial decoder output that works with a matching pattern composed by a sequence of bytes,  later i will look at Siglent website in search for some documentation about this matter.

The other important question that remains unanswered is :

does exist a PC program that manages DSO Logic Analyzer activities ? (excluding of course the remote screen produced by web server).

I'm considering to buy an SDS2104x Plus with LA probes but i have, before, to understand what the system is capable to (serial bus content triggering, remote LA operation).

[Martin72]

Hi,

Concerning trigger I´ve posted a pic, here one of the manual, the SPI trigger.
Link to manual :
https://www.batronix.com/files/Siglent/Oszilloskope/SDS2000X+/SDS2000X-Plus_UserManual_EN01C.pdf

[BillyO]

I'm considering to buy an SDS2104x Plus with LA probes but i have, before, to understand what the system is capable to (serial bus content triggering, remote LA operation).

The manuals are available on-line for free.  That might be a good place to start.

[markone]

I'm considering to buy an SDS2104x Plus with LA probes but i have, before, to understand what the system is capable to (serial bus content triggering, remote LA operation).

The manuals are available on-line for free.  That might be a good place to start.

Yep, but sometime a question posed to experienced users may save a lot of time and / or could be undocumented features.

Anyhow, I will do for sure.

[2N3055]

I'm considering to buy an SDS2104x Plus with LA probes but i have, before, to understand what the system is capable to (serial bus content triggering, remote LA operation).

The manuals are available on-line for free.  That might be a good place to start.

Yep, but sometime a question posed to experienced users may save a lot of time and / or could be undocumented features.

Anyhow, I will do for sure.

That is true and people help when they can. But for that to work it has to be targeted question for a specific thing. Generalized questions are better addressed by manuals because it's all there. So you browse through the manuals and ask for clarifications..

But I saw you repeating one question about triggering and would like to know if I got it right:
you would like to be able to trigger to a serial digital pattern. Do you mean that in any particular protocol (UART, I2C, SPI, CAN) or some custom defined sequence?

[markone]

-snip

But I saw you repeating one question about triggering and would like to know if I got it right:
you would like to be able to trigger to a serial digital pattern. Do you mean that in any particular protocol (UART, I2C, SPI, CAN) or some custom defined sequence?

Standard async serial (UART), trigger must take place on specific sequence of bytes taken from the decoder output.