Siglent SDS2000X Plus

[SolderingIron]

Hello. I tried it too. My siglenteu.com file is 34.9MB in size. But you are right, if you enter the word peak it will not be found. I will investigate it further and report it to siglent if necessary.

[Elasia]

More or less the only thing stopping me from ordering the SDS5034X is that it can't be upgraded to 1GHz.

What about a loan?

Is there a (safe) way to remove an option?
Anyway: I figure the hash and algorithm is the same, so basically using "SDS5000X" as model would work?

Yes, but not public.

Yes, because the FW is the same.

You have to go under the hood and is do able but not without leaving traces behind and could still be recovered and found out on a deep inspection of the memory so dont get any bright ideas

Hacking gear pretty much defacto invalidates most warranties and should be realized as such and not used for commercial purposes

On the hobbyist / enthusiast level most companies wont chase someone because they realize that their use of their product most likely in turn means they get sales at whoever they work for

Our shop at work is almost completely siglent now for new gear because its the best bang for the buck and in that space is pennies on the dollar already; + you want calibration services etc which means sending gear in usually or a specialist comes out if you got enough work for them

[tv84]

There are two version of PDF of the same latest version manual out on internet.
One that I downloaded from siglenteu.com , the official Siglent EU site,  ver "UM0102XP-E01A " is called "SDS2000X-Plus_UserManual_UM0102XP-E01A.pdf" and is 25,7 MB (27.022.244 bytes) in size , and gives error when opening. 

Sorry to say but I have no problem opening the file that you refer:

https://www.siglenteu.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2019/12/SDS2000X-Plus_UserManual_UM0102XP-E01A.pdf

Yes, it has 27022244 bytes, 324 pages and CRC32 EEE60919.

You must have a broken/old PDF viewer/plugin.

The other one is as yous said:
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SDS2000X%20Plus_UserManual_UM0102XP-E01A.pdf

[Svrbinek]

Hello. There is no manual in any of the SDS2000X Pro manuals except the first page with the range photo (title only). The rest of the manual is not classic PDF text but a converted image (only manual images - jpg), so it is not real text with search support. I would also appreciate the manual where the apartment went. I tried to edit it via OCR, but it's too many pages to do well.

[tv84]

Hello. There is no manual in any of the SDS2000X Pro manuals except the first page with the range photo (title only).

That's not correct. The fact that you're unable to search text doesn't mean it's a concatenations of raster images.

Just to give you an example: the index page correctly indexes the sub-chapters all over the document.

[Svrbinek]

Hello. There is no manual in any of the SDS2000X Pro manuals except the first page with the range photo (title only).

That's not correct. The fact that you're unable to search text doesn't mean it's a concatenations of raster images.

Just to give you an example: the index page correctly indexes the sub-chapters all over the document.

The only numbers that are in the index are the text, then the title on each page and the introductory page. All the text in the manual is really pictures. Individual small fragments. Try opening the manual in Adobe Acrobat (editor) and try editing. It will show you above each word that it is a picture. (Verified)

[2N3055]

There are two version of PDF of the same latest version manual out on internet.
One that I downloaded from siglenteu.com , the official Siglent EU site,  ver "UM0102XP-E01A " is called "SDS2000X-Plus_UserManual_UM0102XP-E01A.pdf" and is 25,7 MB (27.022.244 bytes) in size , and gives error when opening. 

Sorry to say but I have no problem opening the file that you refer:

https://www.siglenteu.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2019/12/SDS2000X-Plus_UserManual_UM0102XP-E01A.pdf

Yes, it has 27022244 bytes, 324 pages and CRC32 EEE60919.

You must have a broken/old PDF viewer/plugin.

The other one is as yous said:
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SDS2000X%20Plus_UserManual_UM0102XP-E01A.pdf

I can open it. But it gives an error I listed. You can browse file just fine.
I went and updated adobe XI and it doesn't crash now. But like Svrbinek said, there is no full text index in file, just bookmarks and some fragments are searchable. Search for word "peak"... I'm no PDF expert so I won't speculate what is wrong..

[Elasia]

It was done in Microsoft Word and then improperly exported for the Internets... they pushed a print version made for... printing

Nothing exciting to see other than the manual is annoying for searching

[2N3055]

It was done in Microsoft Word and then improperly exported for the Internets... they pushed a print version made for... printing

Nothing exciting to see other than the manual is annoying for searching

Well, yes, but search is the whole beauty of PDF books..

[Martin72]

I´ve just print the manual out, or let it print as a book. 

[thinkfat]

Wasteful.

[EEVblog]

Hello friends of the Siglent SDS2000X Plus.
..., so the error must be yours. 
Therefore always be careful with error messages, thank you.

I really wonder if tautech actually thinks nobody remembers that this is his fake account just because he deleted (nearly) all incriminating posts 
Jeez, either stand up to you posts or just swallow them down.

This account has nothing to do with Tautech, there is not a single bit of evidence it is him. You are wrong.

[Martin72]

Wasteful.

Sure, but I like to have "papers" in my hands instead of looking at the screen - Even if it was a 4 pages datasheet I "must" print it out...

[2N3055]

Wasteful.

Sure, but I like to have "papers" in my hands instead of looking at the screen - Even if it was a 4 pages datasheet I "must" print it out...

I was like that for many years. But at one point it became too much. I have very little physical space... Now I have "library" disk on network that I sort by topic and use search to find stuff.. Much faster. If I need something (few pages) I print on demand for that purpose.  It took time to get used to it, but it works for me now..

[Elasia]

Wasteful.

Sure, but I like to have "papers" in my hands instead of looking at the screen - Even if it was a 4 pages datasheet I "must" print it out...

I was like that for many years. But at one point it became too much. I have very little physical space... Now I have "library" disk on network that I sort by topic and use search to find stuff.. Much faster. If I need something (few pages) I print on demand for that purpose.  It took time to get used to it, but it works for me now..

Thats how i do mine but i'll usually print out datasheets to scribble on still while working with whatever

[Svrbinek]

For someone who is no stranger to English, this is not a problem, but for non-speaking English users, a searchable pdf is a must. Just enter a keyword and see if there is a mention somewhere, if not, try another similar word, etc. I hope the manual will be fixed.

And I would immediately take the opportunity to ask about two range functions.
1. Is it possible to automatically stop the measurement on the screen when a certain phenomenon occurs? I was measuring switching pulses and needed to see the leading edge, but I had to choose a slower speed (roll mode). Then it was no longer as detailed as when I accidentally stopped and caught the impulse.
2. The second query is focused on when I monitor pulses in roll mode, whether it is possible to display the times when the pulse was detected in the time axis above the pulse.

Perhaps I have described everything clearly. If not, then write and complete.

[2N3055]

For someone who is no stranger to English, this is not a problem, but for non-speaking English users, a searchable pdf is a must. Just enter a keyword and see if there is a mention somewhere, if not, try another similar word, etc. I hope the manual will be fixed.

And I would immediately take the opportunity to ask about two range functions.
1. Is it possible to automatically stop the measurement on the screen when a certain phenomenon occurs? I was measuring switching pulses and needed to see the leading edge, but I had to choose a slower speed (roll mode). Then it was no longer as detailed as when I accidentally stopped and caught the impulse.
2. The second query is focused on when I monitor pulses in roll mode, whether it is possible to display the times when the pulse was detected in the time axis above the pulse.

Perhaps I have described everything clearly. If not, then write and complete.

1. You use Normal (not auto) triggering mode and setup trigger for pulse you want to catch...  history buffers will hold previous events.
2. On  single  long capture you setup search function  (with method similar to triggers) and it will find all pulses that conform to criteria
3. there is pulse number measurement, that will count pulses above threshold (or rising edges, or falling edges) on screen or within time gates you setup

[Electro Fan]

It was done in Microsoft Word and then improperly exported for the Internets... they pushed a print version made for... printing

Nothing exciting to see other than the manual is annoying for searching

Well, yes, but search is the whole beauty of PDF books..

+1 for searchable PDF manuals

For other Siglent products I have found searchable PDF manuals but for some reason the pdf manuals I have found for the SDS2000X Plus Series are not searchable (except for a few title or header lines).

Update:  It seems to be a problem with the User Manual for the SDS2000X Plus Series whether it's found at siglent.com, siglent na, or siglent eu.  The data sheet for the SDS2000X Plus Series is searchable, and the manual for other scopes such as the 5000 and 2000 X+E are searchable.

[thinkfat]

Yes, searchable PDFs are the main advantage over a printed printed manual. At least they had the intuition to provide an index, without that the PDF manual would've been completely useless.

[Martin72]

but for some reason the pdf manuals I have found for the SDS2000X Plus Series are not searchable (except for a few title or header lines).

Or for some keywords like trigger, decode, serial..

Weird behaviour.

[Tom45]

Or for some keywords like trigger, decode, serial..

Or Siglent 

Not knowing the pdf file structure it isn't obvious how they could create a pdf file with text search that only works with a few terms. It seems to me that it would have been easier to create one that actually works. I wonder if it has something to do with the original not being in English.

[Svrbinek]

For someone who is no stranger to English, this is not a problem, but for non-speaking English users, a searchable pdf is a must. Just enter a keyword and see if there is a mention somewhere, if not, try another similar word, etc. I hope the manual will be fixed.

And I would immediately take the opportunity to ask about two range functions.
1. Is it possible to automatically stop the measurement on the screen when a certain phenomenon occurs? I was measuring switching pulses and needed to see the leading edge, but I had to choose a slower speed (roll mode). Then it was no longer as detailed as when I accidentally stopped and caught the impulse.
2. The second query is focused on when I monitor pulses in roll mode, whether it is possible to display the times when the pulse was detected in the time axis above the pulse.

Perhaps I have described everything clearly. If not, then write and complete.

1. You use Normal (not auto) triggering mode and setup trigger for pulse you want to catch...  history buffers will hold previous events.
2. On  single  long capture you setup search function  (with method similar to triggers) and it will find all pulses that conform to criteria
3. there is pulse number measurement, that will count pulses above threshold (or rising edges, or falling edges) on screen or within time gates you setup

Thanks so much for the reply. I'm actually just learning with the oscilloscope, but he's already helped me a lot.
1. I tried it and it works exactly according to my ideas. It is even possible to use single mod.
2. I don't quite understand that. Is it possible to make a screen of what it would look like and how to search? I had the roll mod set to high times, for example 200s per piece. I was measuring the signals from the electricity meters and I needed to compare it between the oscilloscope and the Home Assistant and assign times to the individual pulses. To know exactly how many pulses there were at what minute. Is it working?

[2N3055]

For someone who is no stranger to English, this is not a problem, but for non-speaking English users, a searchable pdf is a must. Just enter a keyword and see if there is a mention somewhere, if not, try another similar word, etc. I hope the manual will be fixed.

And I would immediately take the opportunity to ask about two range functions.
1. Is it possible to automatically stop the measurement on the screen when a certain phenomenon occurs? I was measuring switching pulses and needed to see the leading edge, but I had to choose a slower speed (roll mode). Then it was no longer as detailed as when I accidentally stopped and caught the impulse.
2. The second query is focused on when I monitor pulses in roll mode, whether it is possible to display the times when the pulse was detected in the time axis above the pulse.

Perhaps I have described everything clearly. If not, then write and complete.

1. You use Normal (not auto) triggering mode and setup trigger for pulse you want to catch...  history buffers will hold previous events.
2. On  single  long capture you setup search function  (with method similar to triggers) and it will find all pulses that conform to criteria
3. there is pulse number measurement, that will count pulses above threshold (or rising edges, or falling edges) on screen or within time gates you setup

Thanks so much for the reply. I'm actually just learning with the oscilloscope, but he's already helped me a lot.
1. I tried it and it works exactly according to my ideas. It is even possible to use single mod.
2. I don't quite understand that. Is it possible to make a screen of what it would look like and how to search? I had the roll mod set to high times, for example 200s per piece. I was measuring the signals from the electricity meters and I needed to compare it between the oscilloscope and the Home Assistant and assign times to the individual pulses. To know exactly how many pulses there were at what minute. Is it working?

Thank you for explaining better. For your use case, best is to use triggering (like you already said it works),and set timebase to one pulse width, or a bit longer, not the length of the whole 200sec .  Set scope to sequence mode (take a look at manual). Every time you get trigger, it will take one screen and save into memory, and will keep saving them like that, like pages in Power point presentation. In between pulses it will not record anything, simply will wait for next trigger. You can then take a look at how many you got, and every single one will have proper timestamp. You can take a look at every single one too, on screen.
Make note that in Sequence mode scope won't display anything until you stop it.  This mode is used when pulses are really close together. If pulses are not that close (more than few milliseconds apart), you can get away with only history mode on.  That one functions the same except you don't do anything special. During normal scope sweeps, it will save previous screen into history buffers, same as Sequence mode..
You can also search over history segments...
You really need to read manual in detail. That scope is pretty sophisticated..

[Martin72]

On siglent international website there´s a direct comparision between sds2K+, keysight, tektronix, r&s and rigol:

https://int.siglent.com/products-comparison/sds2000xp/#navs

The trigger types could be a little bit more, like the rigol got.
And they could have also included the 50 Ohm and auto sense inputs in the list.

[Elasia]

It was done in Microsoft Word and then improperly exported for the Internets... they pushed a print version made for... printing

Nothing exciting to see other than the manual is annoying for searching

Well, yes, but search is the whole beauty of PDF books..

+1 for searchable PDF manuals

For other Siglent products I have found searchable PDF manuals but for some reason the pdf manuals I have found for the SDS2000X Plus Series are not searchable (except for a few title or header lines).

Update:  It seems to be a problem with the User Manual for the SDS2000X Plus Series whether it's found at siglent.com, siglent na, or siglent eu.  The data sheet for the SDS2000X Plus Series is searchable, and the manual for other scopes such as the 5000 and 2000 X+E are searchable.

Like i said.. some boobie published a version made for printing hard copies.. they need to take their word document and reexport it properly which takes all of 5 minutes.. but then im sure they have whatever iso processes or the like to clear after

Tau is currently the best shot at getting an actual usable manual from them and correcting their mistake less one of them just happens to see this instead i'd think or anyone else with direct contacts

Till then.. i'll be using my own fixed version   It's their own content so i wont be releasing it but if you want to make your own the basic premise is to convert the current one into a high quality tiff format then OCR it, then take the original and replace all the pages but the TOC