Siglent SDS2000X HD, 12bit, 2GSa/s high definition oscilloscope serie.

[TopQuark]

I've heard whispers from the HD owner's club, that the latest hack does not involve opening up the scope, and can be done easily through firmware updates and a couple of SCPI commands. The right question to ask is therefore "who can hack the scope" but not "how to hack the scope" nor "can the scope be hacked" 

[elimenohpee]

How do I get an invitation to the HD owners club 

[TopQuark]

How do I get an invitation to the HD owners club 

Buy one 

[tautech]

First look at one today, an order for a customer arrived in a new shipment.
Of course it must be PD checked, FW updated, clock set to local time and the probes compensated !


Derived as the big 12 bit brother to SDS2000X Plus first impressions are it is small....and quiet, really very quiet !
Trace is quite fine almost like a good CRO but not lots finer than SDS2104X Plus in 10 Bit mode.

There's a few noticeable differences in design to 2kX Plus, smaller I have mentioned and narrower, taller and deeper is HD.
Assorted SDS2kX Plus vs HD comparison pics for your pleasure attached, 10 bit vs 12 bit.

Sales promo for both runs until years end.

[Martin72]

And the building quality itself is more "pro-like"..
It's a really nice scope.

[tautech]

And the building quality itself is more "pro-like"..
It's a really nice scope.

100%

Unfortunately we won't get much time to really get to know HD but liking it much already.
All the online imagery doesn't do its small size justice and the thing that hits me again today is it's apparent small size although it's a 10" touch screen DSO. I guess it's a proportions thing as at a glance it certainly seems somewhat smaller than the X Plus.
I think we here will rename it as the pocket rocket ! 

This unit came with a wireless mouse like SDS6000A however to do our PD checks and install a couple licenses I never used it and instead the webserver and SCPI command page so to easily Copy/Paste the license code installs.

It's going to a NZ based multinational and I think they might after some time with it be back for more.

[kripton2035]

I really like the trigger light that is the same color as the channel you're triggering.

[Martin72]

This unit came with a wireless mouse like SDS6000A

What the....
Mine came without, maybe another disadvantage when you´re a (very)early bird....
The HD is more 5000/6000 than the 2000Xplus, partly more 6000 than 5000.

[tautech]

I really like the trigger light that is the same color as the channel you're triggering.

Quite sure SDS6000A does that too.
We will have time for a few more tests as the technician we were to deliver to is on sick leave.

I'll come back with a size comparison with SDS6000A.

This unit came with a wireless mouse like SDS6000A

What the....
Mine came without, maybe another disadvantage when you´re a (very)early bird....

Let me see what I can do from the other side of the world.  We have a large network. 

The HD is more 5000/6000 than the 2000Xplus, partly more 6000 than 5000.

IMO HD screams baby 6kA. I have owned all these ^ at some time.

[mawyatt]

Question for HD gurus.

"Since ERES is hardware based can the FFT operate with ERES as raw data?"

Would be nice if Bode could also do same

Probably already been answered somewhere, but can't remember answer

Best,

[Martin72]

Sounds familar to me but can´t remember where to find.
ERES should lower the amplitudes of the Harmonics on FFT, if I get it right.
That´s something I could test on weekend.

[tautech]

SDS6000A vs SDS2000X HD size comparison.
Both with some cheap sense 10x probes and trigger set to ch4 and ch3 to display the trigger label LED. (colors don't show well in pic, they should be green and blue)

Mouse included in shot just for Martin. 

[2N3055]

Question for HD gurus.

"Since ERES is hardware based can the FFT operate with ERES as raw data?"

Would be nice if Bode could also do same

Probably already been answered somewhere, but can't remember answer

Best,

Since Bode plot uses DFT it has significant software gain on it's own. It will pretty much extract dynamic range comparable to FFT with averaging enabled. ERES does not stay on when in Bode plot mode, and would not help much, as it does not with FFT. Enabling BW limit on channels might and should..

[Martin72]

SDS6000A vs SDS2000X HD size comparison.

Holy shit, Dr. Evil and his Mini-Me...

[tautech]

SDS6000A vs SDS2000X HD size comparison.

Holy shit, Dr. Evil and his Mini-Me...

Mini-Me pocket rocket. 

Before it goes to our customer it is only customary to have some time chewing on the Leo Bodnar pulser......here the 350 MHz rating certainly dominates results. Another reverse image just for Martin.

[Martin72]

Hi Rob,

Forget to post it in the Bug/Feature thread, but this I already know it(we use this for our test documents at work)
I´ve asked for black&white.

[tautech]

Hi Rob,

Forget to post it in the Bug/Feature thread, but this I already know it(we use this for our test documents at work)
I´ve asked for black&white.

Q.
What instruments offer screenshots in normal display, invert image and B&W ?
How are B&W screenshots useful with a 4ch DSO ? 

[Martin72]

A.:
1)Lecroy Waverunner and HDO series, can show it tomorrow after work.
2)Not for all 4Ch at the same time, but when using 2.

Ah, forget something in the feature thread...On the mentioned lecroys you can choose the colours also for printing.

[tautech]

On the mentioned LeCroy's you can choose the colours also for printing.

Do you use the user defined trace colors in your HD or X Plus that have been there all along ?

From a Siglent website:

[Martin72]

Hi Rob,

Yes we do use this on our Xplus at work - Because when you leave the colours to default, you can see them good on the screen, but when printing it is hard to see them, best example ch 1 and it´s yellow.
So we change the colours to get a good printing - but the default colours on screen are good when looking at the screen...
So different settings for Display/Printing would be cool.
Actually we use the siglents for documentating loadsteps, using the invert mode and change the colours until they are good visible on our printed out reports.

[2N3055]

SDS6000A vs SDS2000X HD size comparison.

Holy shit, Dr. Evil and his Mini-Me...

LOL.
When I first put them side to side on the desk, it looked like 6000 would say "Well, my son...".

[tautech]

Hi Rob,

Yes we do use this on our Xplus at work - Because when you leave the colours to default, you can see them good on the screen, but when printing it is hard to see them, best example ch 1 and it´s yellow.
So we change the colours to get a good printing - but the default colours on screen are good when looking at the screen...
So different trace color settings for Display and Printing would be cool.
Actually we use the siglents for documentating loadsteps, using the invert mode and change the colours until they are good visible on our printed out reports.

Edited for clear meaning. ^
This is the key to your feature request so make sure that's clear as beta testers and product engineers can easy understand what you ask for.

Hopefully we can have a good chat about this in the Features/bugs thread.

[2N3055]

Hi Rob,

Yes we do use this on our Xplus at work - Because when you leave the colours to default, you can see them good on the screen, but when printing it is hard to see them, best example ch 1 and it´s yellow.
So we change the colours to get a good printing - but the default colours on screen are good when looking at the screen...
So different trace color settings for Display and Printing would be cool.
Actually we use the siglents for documentating loadsteps, using the invert mode and change the colours until they are good visible on our printed out reports.

Edited for clear meaning. ^
This is the key to your feature request so make sure that's clear as beta testers and product engineers can easy understand what you ask for.

Hopefully we can have a good chat about this in the Features/bugs thread.

I think that is good suggestion. Simply inverting colours doesn't work well on white background. LeCroy has it because of legacy, because people used to print a lot, and BW printers were the norm.

[Martin72]

Yep, this is a "pro" request, normally hobbyists don´t have this "problem".
BTW, printing the screen as it is is maximum horrible to view on documents.
I´ll show some examples tomorrow or the next days and then in the feature thread.

[tautech]

Yep, this is a "pro" request, normally hobbyists don´t have this "problem".
BTW, printing the screen as it is is maximum horrible to view on documents.
I´ll show some examples tomorrow or the next days and then in the feature thread.

Strongly disagree however that's only my opinion. Convince me otherwise.