Siglent SDS2000X HD, 12bit, 2GSa/s high definition oscilloscope serie.

[TopQuark]

Inspired by KungFuJosh (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg5424095/#msg5424095)

I tried making oscilloscope music with the SDS2000X HD, the results are great, much better than I anticipated.

Scope settings:
Input settings (CH1, CH2) : 50-ohm termination, DC coupled, 20M BW limit
Timebase : 1 ms/div, 1 MSa/s, 10 kpts memory
Trigger : Normal, alternating edge, CH1, AC coupled, 0V offset
Acquire : XY mode (duh!)

Reference video produced with Oscilloscope! on a Macbook Pro 14
https://oscilloscopemusic.com/software/oscilloscope/

Audio DAC : Fiio KA3 @ 96.0 kHz, 24 bit, 3.5mm stereo output into coax and scope 50 ohm input

[KungFuJosh]

I tried making oscilloscope music with the SDS2000X HD, the results are great, much better than I anticipated.

Excellent results! I used the wavs, but something was lost in quality. A lot of things matter though, including the frequency that's used to produce the images. I'm making a video now I'll upload soon...when I can find where I exported it to. 😬

[TopQuark]

Yo dawg, I heard you like oscilloscopes. So we put an oscilloscope in your oscilloscope, so you have waveforms in your waveforms.  

I think this demo video is even more impressive than the two videos I put up yesterday. The complexity of the graphics is impressive, and I think the SDS2000X HD rendered the it really well.



Then there's this one. This is my favorite, and I think I have finally nailed down the best settings to use. Not to mention the graphics of this music is the coolest of all.

[JimKnopf]

Is that only me who find it anoying that in Cursor menu the measured DeltaX value changes when you change timebase/H wheel?

I was inspecting the HTI HT-H8 IR camera (which is true a HT-301) where i found 4 interesting pin holes that looked like a UART port. I hook up the SDS2504X HD and watched the signals to catch the baudrate in first place.

When i set timebase to 1.00µs/div to set cursors most accuratly i get 8,68µs DeltaX value which means it uses a baud rate of 115200. When changing timebase, at 10.00µs/div, the DeltaX show 8,7µs and changes to 9µs when changing timebase to 100µs/div.

Changing timebase further to 1.00ms/div, the DeltaX show accurate 8,680µs. Is this a bug? Can i change that behavior somehow?

I save screenshots for documentation and i want the correct value at any timebase.

[Gnarflord]

Welectron is still the only store that has the 2104X HD in stock.
But still at the old price...

That's not entirely correct, the french distributor Jeulin still carries the SDS2104X for the new price of 1880€ (excl tax). Granted, the page states that the scope is on order, but it already said that 2 weeks ago when I ordered myself and the scope arrived just now 
https://jeulin.com/jeulin_en/297376.html

[egonotto]

Hello,

when I didn't have SDS2XHD-BND, the trial counters of all decoding options were decreased by one when I used SPI.

I have now contacted Siglent.
Although I will probably never need ARINC (I can no longer fly from a school ).

Best regards
egonotto

Hello,

CAUTION!!! (Software Version 1.2.2.5)

If you use a serial decoder, the trial count of all serial decoders is reduced.
If possible, you should wait for a firmware update that no longer has this error. I don't know if Siglent will replace the lost trials.

Siglent knows the problem.

Best regards
egonotto

[fredo_]

That's not entirely correct, the french distributor Jeulin still carries the SDS2104X for the new price of 1880€ (excl tax). Granted, the page states that the scope is on order, but it already said that 2 weeks ago when I ordered myself and the scope arrived just now 
https://jeulin.com/jeulin_en/297376.html

"On order" is a miss-translation, they mean that they will order from Siglent if/when you place your order ("sur commande" in French).
I purchased mine from them and it took 3 weeks to get there (should have been 2 but they said EU restocking was delayed due to troubles in the red sea).
Last time I talked to Jeulin sales rep, he said that there might be some stock left at Siglent EU before the 100Mhz version is discontinued.
That would explain why the 100Mhz model is still listed on their website : https://www.siglenteu.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds2000x-hd-digital-storage-oscilloscope/

[Grandchuck]

Martin72 posted an XY example using ERES so I tried it.
 
BTW, two damped sines, one phase 0 degrees and the other 9 degrees?  I can't figure this one (the phase) out?

[Grandchuck]

Oh, I see now.  9 degrees for 10 cycles = 90 degrees.

[ebastler]

Oh, I see now.  9 degrees for 10 cycles = 90 degrees.

Umm... Not sure where the 9° and the 10 cycles come from?

Let's leave out the decaying amplitude for starters. You will need a 90° phase shift between the X and Y signals to draw a circle. (0° or 180° will produce diagonal lines; values inbetween will produce ellipses.)

Now add the decaying amplitude to go from a circle to a spiral. No change to the 90° phase shift. The number of turns the spiral makes until it reaches its final (small) diameter will simply depend on the ratio of the amplitude ramp duration to the sine waves' period.

[Grandchuck]

Here is the sig gen

[ebastler]

Here is the sig gen

Ah, ok. If the signal generator refers to an overall signal with 10 periods of a decaying sine wave, then a 9° shift of that signal will imply a 90° shift of the underlying sine wave. 

[Ulrich.G]

Seems the nice light gray design of the SDS2000X HD is also over in the near future 

As seen on the EmbeddedWorld 2024 which ended recently.

[Antonio90]

It also seems the 100MHz will still be produced?

[fredo_]

It also seems the 100MHz will still be produced?

Yes, and that's a surprise !
I've been told by Siglent's French sales rep that the 100 Mhz version was going to be discontinued  Maybe he meant "The white 100Mhz version" ?! 

[Antonio90]

It also seems the 100MHz will still be produced?

Yes, and that's a surprise !
I've been told by Siglent's French sales rep that the 100 Mhz version was going to be discontinued  Maybe he meant "The white 100Mhz version" ?! 

It was implied by Tautech in another thread also. ¿Maybe they are making a hardware revision? I wouldn't be surprised.
Also, for embedded development a 100MHz MSO makes sense, doesn't it? You can still buy the 2000X-plus, but this is the first true MSO in the newer line.

[skander36]

Seems the nice light gray design of the SDS2000X HD is also over in the near future 

As seen on the EmbeddedWorld 2024 which ended recently.

I wonder if they will keep the same architecture.
I have a hunch ...

[Electro Fan]

from the 800X HD Wanted Features thread….

 “From SDS2000X HD and up Fixed Mem depth is offered which can offer an order of magnitude more zoom out than the scope you are used to....when the advantage of deep memory displays itself.”

just a request/suggestion:  It would be nice to see from Siglent or a distributor or a user a video showing workflow for trigger / capture / search / review / zoom and related navigation for the 2000X HD

[tautech]

from the 800X HD Wanted Features thread….

 “From SDS2000X HD and up Fixed Mem depth is offered which can offer an order of magnitude more zoom out than the scope you are used to....when the advantage of deep memory displays itself.”

just a request/suggestion:  It would be nice to see from Siglent or a distributor or a user a video showing workflow for trigger / capture / search / review / zoom and related navigation for the 2000X HD

TBH how I would skin a cat and the order I might do it in might be quite different to others.

Everyone has a different workflow.
Are they right or wrong, neither just different.

[Ulrich.G]

I have a hunch ...

A hardware modification? Why should they?

[skander36]

I have a hunch ...

A hardware modification? Why should they?

A common hardware platform will be more efficient from software lifecycle development perspective ...

[KungFuJosh]

I have a hunch ...

A hardware modification? Why should they?

It's certainly possible. They have photos of newer 2000X HDs in the dark cases. They might follow similarly to how the 1000X HD got upgraded between case versions, but that's just hopeful speculation.

[egonotto]

Hello,

I have the impression that the SDS2000X HD always has a small downward dent in the left in channel 1 when the input is open in auto-trigger mode.


Best regards
egonotto

[temperance]

I have the impression that the SDS2000X HD always has a small downward dent in the left in channel 1 when the input is open in auto-trigger mode.

I've noticed this too and I think it is a software problem because it does not depend on the horizontal position.

[hpw]

Hello,

I have the impression that the SDS2000X HD always has a small downward dent in the left in channel 1 when the input is open in auto-trigger mode.


Best regards
egonotto

A good catch  IMHO it looks rather as a state ready issue (HW & SW), so samples to skip before as any good.

The other looks like "knocking on havens door" see picture as from Dave's video...  so any SDS2000X HD Plus revision to come...

Cheers

Hp