Siglent SDG7000A 350, 500 MHz and 1 GHz AWG's

[tautech]

New range of highly featured dual channel AWG's.


SDG7032A   350 MHz
SDG7052A   500 MHz
SDG7102A   1 GHz

Released March 2022
Features
Dual-channel differential or single-ended analog outputs
24 Vpp analog output capability with ±12V DC bias, maximum ±24V (48 V) output range (See datasheet)
5 GSa/s digital-analog sampling rate and 14-bit vertical resolution
Mem depth 512 Mpts

Sine, Pulse, ARB, PRBS, Noise and IQ (option) waveforms
Arbitrary waveform sampling rate 2.5 GSa/s and vector waveforms to 500 Mb/s
PRBS patterns up to 312.5 Mbps
AM, FM, PM, FSK, ASK, PSK, DSB-AM and PWM analog and digital modulation
Minimum pulse width 1 ns and minimum Rising/Falling edge 500 ps
Hardware frequency counter
5 inch capacitive touch screen, resolution 800x480; supports external mouse and keyboard
I/O; USB Host, USB Device (USBTMC), LAN(VXI-11/Telnet/Socket), external modulation/frequency meter input, reference clock Input, reference clock output, Marker output, Trigger In/Out, etc.
SCPI remote control
WebServer
Wireless mouse supplied

Options
Digital bus 16-bit, LVTTL or LVDS output Bit rate 1 μbps ~ 1 Gbps
10M_OCXO (factory install only)
IQ signal generation function (software)

Datasheet:
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SDG7000A_Datasheet_EN01A.pdf

https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/sdg7000a/
https://www.siglenteu.com/waveform-generators/sdg7000a-arbitrary-waveform-generator/
https://siglentna.com/waveform-generators/sdg7000a-arbitrary-waveform-generator/

[tv84]

Slick design. Bad news for many and their SDG6000 unit...

[TurboTom]

Curious about the pricing. Will probably be a completely different league compared all their legacy AWGs. I agree with tv84 that this may be the "death sentence" for the SDG6000X units regarding "real" firmware polishing. It would be interesting to see if some of the suggestions posted here on improvements of the 6000x series have been implemented in this new AWG...

[2N3055]

One interesting thing is mixed signal generation: 2 analog AWG + 16ch pattern gen.
Big sucker too..

[TurboTom]

Wow -- seems to be dissipating some serious power  :



Or maybe Siglent implemented three fans so they can be ran at a lower speed, which would improve (acoustic) noise  emission considerably. This would be a clever move.

[Berni]

The datasheet says it consumes 90W so you would want more than 1 fan blowing trough there for it to be nice and quiet.

Very nice piece of kit this thing, tho it will most likely be way out of my price range.

[2N3055]

Slick design. Bad news for many and their SDG6000 unit...

Not necessarily..
This thing is high end, they still need SDG6000X for mid range AWG..

[nctnico]

Slick design. Bad news for many and their SDG6000 unit...

Not necessarily..
This thing is high end, they still need SDG6000X for mid range AWG..

I don't think the remark is about pricing but the effort Siglent is going to put into finishing the firmware for the SDG6000.

I'm also not sure how useful the digital pattern outputs are going to be. In my experience a digital pattern generator needs a different approach compared to a signal generator. Being able to import (script) generated patterns for groups of digital bits (say 2 bits for an I2C bus, 3 bits for SPI, 8 bits for some counter logic) is essential. I have owned AWGs before which had this feature but the software side just wasn't powerful enough to make it useful.

You may think that having digital outputs parallel to the output DACs is enough but it isn't. Makeing a good pattern generator takes an entirely different approach on the software side compared to an AWG. It needs treating each output bit as an individual output channel with the option of grouping them.

[2N3055]

Slick design. Bad news for many and their SDG6000 unit...

Not necessarily..
This thing is high end, they still need SDG6000X for mid range AWG..

I don't think the remark is about pricing but the effort Siglent is going to put into finishing the firmware for the SDG6000.

I'm also not sure how useful the digital pattern outputs are going to be. In my experience a digital pattern generator needs a different approach compared to a signal generator. Being able to import (script) generated patterns for groups of digital bits (say 2 bits for an I2C bus, 3 bits for SPI, 8 bits for some counter logic) is essential. I have owned AWGs before which had this feature but the software side just wasn't powerful enough to make it useful.

You may think that having digital outputs parallel to the output DACs is enough but it isn't. Makeing a good pattern generator takes an entirely different approach on the software side compared to an AWG. It needs treating each output bit as an individual output channel.

Neither did I comment about price. I meant that Siglent cannot casually abandon product because they still have to rely on it for a certain market segment.

As for other comments about usefulness, I agree it will depend on how well it will be implemented.
For that we will have to see..  I hope EasywaveX will be enhanced to make this work well on PC..

[tv84]

this may be the "death sentence" for the SDG6000X units regarding "real" firmware polishing. It would be interesting to see if some of the suggestions posted here on improvements of the 6000x series have been implemented in this new AWG...

With your contributions you should be entitled to a trade in voucher!   

[egonotto]

Hello,

"Mem depth 512 Mpts" with EasyWave it takes ages

Best regards
egonotto

[hpw]

Wow -- seems to be dissipating some serious power  :



Or maybe Siglent implemented three fans so they can be ran at a lower speed, which would improve (acoustic) noise  emission considerably. This would be a clever move.

Looks like a HP server rack... so Siglent needs to provide any dbSPL figures or as an option any hear protections.. 

Anyway, using 16 bit with low levels, any proper dithering, 16Bit would generates -120dBFS signals and missing gear to measure 

Good is the larger front panel, while SDG2K & SDG6K using the keypad and gorilla fingers  so nice Chinese girl with thin fingers to go 

Hp

[TurboTom]

I also doubt the usefulness of the pattern generator module. But since apparently there are four "proper" output stages present, a rather interesting option would be to not only use them to provide two differential signals but to also implement a four-channel pulse mode. In this case, only single-bit "D/A converters" (i.e. analog switches to the min/max reference signals) are required per channel, and with this minimal additional hardware, all kinds of serial protocolls and also drive signals for multi-phase converters and the like could be generated. Of course, this approach won't feature the "easy Pulse" (or whatever it's called) benefits of low jitter, but for "everyday use", one sampling period of jitter wouldn't make any difference from a high-speed generator "screaming along" like that. 

[citizenrich]

The datasheet also shows a fancy Siglent scope, the SDS 6000 Pro. I've not heard about that one. Does anyone have some links? Google is not too helpful or perhaps my Googling skills are not too great.

[tautech]

The datasheet also shows a fancy Siglent scope, the SDS 6000 Pro. I've not heard about that one. Does anyone have some links? Google is not too helpful or perhaps my Googling skills are not too great.

Don't yet have a release date.
Bit about them here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds6000-pro-10-and-12-bit-dso-coming/

[hpw]

@tautech

an interesting option is this one: 10M OCXO

So the question rises, will this an internal part or external device?

While DSO, SPA & SDG all have the option to sync with an external 10MHz clock!
(did already measurements with the Siglent SPA, but the synthesizer jitter of the SPA may made the investment  )

But any ventilation shacking will degrade the OXCO crystal to hell! So an external reference to use!
So no external Siglent OXCO seen so far 

Hp

[tv84]

Tautech's photos show exactly where the OCXO will be inserted. So, it's an additional HW module as usual in other brands.

[tautech]

Tautech's photos show exactly where the OCXO will be inserted. So, it's an additional HW module as usual in other brands.

As yet it's unknown if it will be available as a post sales option or if the unit must be ordered with OCXO pre-fitted from the factory.
Eg, the 16ch SC option for SDM bench meters is only available factory fitted.

Only time will tell.............

[TurboTom]

Slick design. Bad news for many and their SDG6000 unit...

Not necessarily..
This thing is high end, they still need SDG6000X for mid range AWG..

I tend to agree. And on a second thought, if Siglent is going to keep the existing SDG1000X~6000X design for some years to come, and they are developing a completely new Software/UI for the SDG7000X, it would be a clever move to "down-port" this new design to the existing AWGs to spice up their sales of these instruments. Time will tell which road Siglent follows. I'ld be very happy if it's the projected one but I won't hold my breath...

[tautech]

Now released and OP updated.

[kaz911]

Now released and OP updated.

So where are the hacks? Don't they get released at the same time? 

[jjoonathan]

> Siglent SDG7032A - Arbitrary Waveform Generator, 2 Channels, 350 MHz
> Your Price: $11,389.00

 

[tv84]

So where are the hacks? Don't they get released at the same time? 

Most probably they have preceded the HW. But you still have to buy the HW.

[mawyatt]

> Siglent SDG7032A - Arbitrary Waveform Generator, 2 Channels, 350 MHz
> Your Price: $11,389.00

 

Yes, pretty expensive AWG, well out of our reach!!

We just settled for the SDG6022X instead, with visions of "enhancing/upgrading" it, thinking we were successful in "enhancing/upgrading" our SDG2042X.

Unfortunately getting old has its' drawbacks, one is short term memory, and can't remember exactly how we were able to upgrade the SDG2042X!!

So we are trying to follow the convoluted path to upgrade the SDG6022X, and not being a computer, firmware, linux, hacker guru makes finding this proper upgrade path all the more difficult, not to mention not remembering how we did the SDG2042X, or the SDS2000X+, or the SSA3012X+ awhile back 

Getting old sucks, but better than the alternative 

Best,

[tautech]

> Siglent SDG7032A - Arbitrary Waveform Generator, 2 Channels, 350 MHz
> Your Price: $11,389.00

 

Not sure how you came to that when our pricelist has SDG7032A at $ 9789