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Re: Mechatrommer's Rigol DSO Bug Report Space
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2016, 02:20:16 pm »
ok, since yesterday, Rigol representative Jessie Jiang has contacted me. sent me some VI programs to test and clarify some few things to me. it seems most of the firmware bugs i reported has something to do with failure to press or activate "STOP" button or "STOP" command after changing V/Div, S/div etc setting, which seems to be needed to update some internal housekeeping things like preamble returned value, and interleaved memory arrangement.. FWIW, interleaved memory arrangement is used in their WFM file format. but somehow got stucked or leaked into USB stream when "STOP" command has not been activated. in WFM its no problem since we have enough data points as reported on the screen, but leak through USB only half the set.

some people may say, yeah you have to follow the steps, but i say its still less elegant way. housekeeping stuffs should be updated the day we touch setting buttons like V/div, S/Div etc. we dont have to remember to press "STOP" button before rig up the "SINGLE" mode capture. this extra steps can be eliminated in this modern super processing power days, we are not in the 70's anymore. but anyway i give a thumbs up to Rigol for replying back to me, their support team are not that crappy afterall, well but not that stellar either... i've passed my wish to them ie no need to press STOP button to get the right preamble values i hope they listening and make the fix in the next FW update... thumbs up to them.
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Re: Mechatrommer's Rigol DSO Bug Report Space
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2016, 06:55:17 pm »
another bug report... or peculiar behaviour or hardware limitation? i'm not sure... see picture attached...

p1: V/div at 500mV/div... signal is 1Vpp 17MHz square wave. pay attention to the bottom signal at 0V...
p2: V/div reduced to 200mV/div... still acceptable... bottom signal at ~10mV
p3: V/div reduced to 100mV/div... ok... bottom signal at ~10mV
p4: V/div reduced to 50mV/div... boom!...  bottom signal at ~170mV, all of sudden...
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Re: Mechatrommer's Rigol DSO Bug Report Space
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2016, 08:35:19 pm »
Hmm, interesting... Wonder whether that is actually the front-end saturating due to the significant overdrive? Still, it should not do that, of course... What happens if you attenuate the signal by a factor of 10?
 

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Re: Mechatrommer's Rigol DSO Bug Report Space
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2016, 01:12:18 am »
That is typical behaviour when overdriving an input on a DSO so no bug there.
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Re: Mechatrommer's Rigol DSO Bug Report Space
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2016, 02:01:01 am »
That is typical behaviour when overdriving an input on a DSO so no bug there.
thanks for clarifying.. but the effect is so sudden. but i guess the general rule is, dont overdrive the input  ;D

edit:
from jason chonko... the support team is getting better and better... :-+
http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5989-0068EN.pdf
« Last Edit: March 02, 2016, 06:02:43 am by Mechatrommer »
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Re: Mechatrommer's Rigol DSO Bug Report Space
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2016, 03:12:45 pm »
Rigol DSO DS1054Z FW 4.3.2.3 SP2 Bug Report (#4):

Symptom:
time/phase shift/lag between channel 1 and channel 2. inconsistent 100-300ns CH1 lag... see attached pictures.

Persistence/Severity:
everytime.

1) What are you task are you trying to perform?
ANS: download 2 synchronized signal, such as USB differential signal. at correct time shift.

2) What are you seeing vs. what you expect to see?
ANS: i'm seeing wrong time shift (phase lag) data, i expect correct time shift.

3) Can you send me a text version of your code, in the exact order that the commands are being sent?
reading mode:
-":WAV:POINTS:MODE MAXIMUM"
-":WAVeform:FORMat BYTE"
-MemDepth = regardless "AUTO, 6K, - 12M" pts
-dso in STOP (press STOP button in AUTO or NORMAL state) or SINGLE (triggered and stopped) state
-download is not immediate. few seconds is provided for the DSO to save the data after STOPed state.
so inadequate saving time to memory is not an excuse.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2016, 03:15:26 pm by Mechatrommer »
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