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eBay graft
« on: July 25, 2024, 08:06:41 pm »
I see eBay are now selling the same item for different prices on .com and .co.uk sites.
Is this new ? It doesn't happen on every item and I don't think it's the seller's choice.

Example - an item that's listed at $39.99 on ebay.com is listed at $49.99 (and converted to £37.15) on ebay.co.uk
The same item shows postage to the UK as  $20.55 and £19.09 on ebay.co.uk

It seems as though they're applying the usual £1=$1 ripoff but doing it especially incompetently.
It could be duty but that should be part of the shipping expense, not added to the price since it's applied by the shippers. It would also apply to all items.

If you're in the UK and want to order from the US I suggest you check the price on ebay.com, potentially saving 20%.

 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2024, 08:09:35 pm »
Because UK VAT.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2024, 08:40:28 pm »
There are new rules that have come out of Brexit, basically.  For a seller in the US, they actually charge extra to promote on the UK site.  I don't know if this is VAT rules, or that ebay has to operate some separate service/office/extra guarantees in the UK specifically, but I think it's on both sides and it's due to local regulations.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2024, 08:49:21 pm »
Then why is it inconsistently applied ?
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2024, 09:01:53 pm »
Then why is it inconsistently applied ?
Because I doubt you actually tried ordering to see the full price once you enter shipping address.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2024, 09:08:29 pm »
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
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Consignments valued at £135 or less
The online marketplace must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale, unless the consignment is a business to business sale and the customer has given their UK VAT registration number.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2024, 09:14:54 pm »
There are new rules that have come out of Brexit, basically.  For a seller in the US, they actually charge extra to promote on the UK site.
Has nothing to do with brexit and does not affect listing availability on a regional site if you manually enter listing number or look for items in sellers shop. It's a fee for being shown in regional search results. Usually makes more sense just to create another listing on a regional website if you need discoverability.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2024, 06:19:04 pm »
There are new rules that have come out of Brexit, basically.  For a seller in the US, they actually charge extra to promote on the UK site.
Has nothing to do with brexit and does not affect listing availability on a regional site if you manually enter listing number or look for items in sellers shop. It's a fee for being shown in regional search results. Usually makes more sense just to create another listing on a regional website if you need discoverability.

Yes nothing to do with Brex-shit, online selling sites such as ePay have to collect the import tax on items below a certain value, this applies to the EU as well.
Most of the time it works better the ransom note crap, that the delivery companies did prior to this being introduced.

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« Last Edit: July 26, 2024, 06:24:36 pm by factory »
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2024, 09:16:24 pm »
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
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Consignments valued at £135 or less
The online marketplace must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale, unless the consignment is a business to business sale and the customer has given their UK VAT registration number.

Fairly sure the price shown to consumers must be the VAT-inclusive one. Somewhere like Aliexpress always shows VAT-exclusive and applies a bump up on checkout, but since they don't have a presence in the UK they can ignore such diktats. Ebay, OTOH, has UK presence so has the play the game.

Maybe Ebay US (that is the .com rather than .co.uk) can get away with VAT-exclusive prices because it's notionally selling in the US. VAT would still be added on checkout, but the initial price shown would be less.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2024, 09:22:30 pm »
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
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Consignments valued at £135 or less
The online marketplace must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale, unless the consignment is a business to business sale and the customer has given their UK VAT registration number.

Fairly sure the price shown to consumers must be the VAT-inclusive one. Somewhere like Aliexpress always shows VAT-exclusive and applies a bump up on checkout, but since they don't have a presence in the UK they can ignore such diktats. Ebay, OTOH, has UK presence so has the play the game.

Maybe Ebay US (that is the .com rather than .co.uk) can get away with VAT-exclusive prices because it's notionally selling in the US. VAT would still be added on checkout, but the initial price shown would be less.
If you don't select UK address on ebay.com it won't show VAT inclusive price. Any inconsistencies will go away at checkout.
 

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Re: eBay graft
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2024, 09:27:12 pm »
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
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Consignments valued at £135 or less
The online marketplace must charge and account for VAT at the point of sale, unless the consignment is a business to business sale and the customer has given their UK VAT registration number.

Fairly sure the price shown to consumers must be the VAT-inclusive one. Somewhere like Aliexpress always shows VAT-exclusive and applies a bump up on checkout, but since they don't have a presence in the UK they can ignore such diktats. Ebay, OTOH, has UK presence so has the play the game.

Maybe Ebay US (that is the .com rather than .co.uk) can get away with VAT-exclusive prices because it's notionally selling in the US. VAT would still be added on checkout, but the initial price shown would be less.
If you don't select UK address on ebay.com it won't show VAT inclusive price. Any inconsistencies will go away at checkout.

Er, yes, that is what I wrote.
 


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