Look who's returned to his LeCroy jihad.
Oh look, my personal troll is back
And I see you still have no real life?
Look, the market has spoken loudly, and they don't agree with your conclusions or preferences.
Right, so when did LeCroy go bankrupt? Oh right, they didn't.
Among other reasons, notice Keysight is here, interacting with users and enthusiasts, while LeCroy is not? Even Rigol and Siglent have made it known they are interested in this forum as a feedback mechanism to improve their products, while LeCroy either can't be bothered, or more likely simply doesn't have the resources because of its diminutive size.
You are, like most of the time, talking nonsense
Keysight is here because they know it's good marketing for some of their cheaper products (and they might convince a few users to buy their PC software for DMMs and AWGs in the course of it).
Siglent is here pretty much because they don't do software testing so they have no idea what bugs are in their software, so they use the forum as a testbed for their software, pickup the user feedback, and save a few bucks along. They also use it as a free marketing platform.
I haven't seen anyone from Rigol in this forum, and if there is then he's certainly not very active.
I also haven't seen anyone from Tek (I know, but still), Rohde & Schwarz (the Product Manager from Hameg once tried to engage with the forum but stopped pretty much due to the overwhelming hostility from the Rigol punters), Fluke, GW Instek, Picotech, Anritsu, Advantest, Aeroflex, Keithley, Yokogawa, and pretty much everyone else in the T&M industry, including LeCroy.
The simple reason why these manufacturers are not present in this forum is that they don't care for a community where the hottest topic is a $400 B-brand scope and where the majority of members are hobbyists on a slim budget. It shouldn't be difficult to see manufacturers that primarily operate in the higher end of their segment (like R&S or LeCroy) have no benefit engaging here, and especially LeCroy already has other avenues to support hobbyists (Yahoo LeCroy user group). Even for a company like Keysight, with a broad portfolio of instruments at pretty much all price ranges, there will be limited engagement. Because like it or not, there's limited return for them from a community that's pretty much set on B-brand stuff, sometimes at ridiculous length.
10,000 employees vs 500. $4 Billion in annual sales vs $150 million. The company behind expensive TE is as important as the equipment itself.
And still, it was LeCroy who brought the first deep memory scopes to market, the first ones with powerful FFT and advanced measurements and analysis, the first scope with proper touch interface, the first true 12bit bench scope with fast sample rates and a larger bandwidth, the first with pretty much high waveform update rates (>100k) in their mid-range and high-end X-Stream scopes (which came out 2001), the first 65Ghz real-time scope, and later the first 100GHz real-time scope, amongst various other achievements. They already had advanced maths and FFT in their scopes when the competition were still dabbling with pretty simple functionality.
So please remind me, when did Keysight present a 100GHz real-time scope again? Right, they didn't. For real-time they're still stuck at 63GHz (Infiniium Z), and this only if the scope is operated in two channel mode (in four channel mode the bandwidth drops to 33GHz). In contrast, LeCroy offers scopes with up to 20(!) channels up to 100GHz, up to 40 channels at 65GHz and up to 80 channels at 36Ghz:
http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/pdf/labmaster-10zi-a-datasheet.pdfThat's the pretty much the Emperor Class of scopes, and there's only LeCroy who can do that. Simple as that.
Also, with HPAK, we got upper mid-range and high-end scopes (Infiniium) with low to paltry update rates. The 2014 DSO9k from that "competitive comparison" I linked to (the one where the competitor model stated doesn't match the image) is specified with 250k wfms/s max in sequence mode and some 700 wfms/s in real-time mode where that 2006 WaveRunner Xi they're comparing against pushes >1.25M wfms/s in sequence mode and >8k wfms/s in real-time mode. The latest Keysight high-end scope (Infiniium Z) is specified with 400k wfms/s in segmented mode (the same as the old DSO90kA on my bench at work) while pretty much all LeCroy scopes since that old 2006 WaveRunner Xi go beyond the 1M wfms/s mark there. Not that the waveform rate is a major differentiator in that scope class (it really isn't), it just shows who's leading the pack. Similar in HD scopes, when LeCroy came up with their HDO Series of true 12bit scopes, Agilent came up with a 8bit scope with oversampling (DSO9kH) instead.
There are more areas where it shows where innovation really happens.
Oh, and as to your number of employees and annual sales argument, you of course ignore completely that LeCroy makes that with scopes alone, because that's pretty much all they do - scopes (they also have a few other products like AWGs but these make just for a very small part of their sales). Keysight's 10k employees and 4B of sales are not just from scopes of course, they are from all the other stuff they make besides scopes, like DVMs, spectrum analyzers, signal analyzers, RF generators, Frequency Counters, Power Meters, PXI equipment and a wide range of other instruments, plus their software business which includes a pretty expensive EDA suite. All which contributes to their sales, big time. I don't know how many people in Keysight work on scopes, but I doubt it's much more than 500, and that for a company that not only makes mid-range and high-end scopes but also their own entry level series (LeCroy just buys their low end gear in from Siglent and Iwatsu so they don't have to invest own resources in the lower end of the market). As far as money is concerned, LeCroy is part of Teledyne which is of a similar size as Keysight (>9k employees) so they won't run out of money anytime soon (and unlike Danaher who bought and now slowly strangulates Tek through their DBS, Teledyne lets LeCroy just do their stuff).
Don't get me wrong, HPAK does have good scopes, but you really need to have pretty strong blinkers on to not see which of the two company really pushes scope technology further
For DSOs, LeCroy is pretty much what Tek was for analog scopes - they are pretty much driving scope technology.
Keysight's strong point is that they have such a wide portfolio, and many business and government customers prefer single sources for their gear. They can serve pretty much the whole T&M market (aside from the ultra high end scope segment). And while they may not have the best performing products, they have good products and you can be sure whatever you buy is unlikely to be a complete sucker (which isn't something you can say about Tek). And that's not a bad place to be.
Just to put your simplistic and naive armchair engineer world view into some real-world perspective
For scopes, in the ultra high end there is simply LeCroy and no-one else. You don't get there if you're starved off resources or run out of money, as you seem to believe they are. Yes, their entry level scopes (pretty much everything below the WaveSurfer 3000) are pathetic, it shows LeCroy is not really interested in that market, and if that's what you want you're better off buying something else.
Also, I guess being pretty much at the top is the reason that LeCroy doesn't need to do "competitive comparisons", as they probably have plenty enough to tell about their own products and its merits so they don't need to talk down their competition. Which in my book is a big plus.
Just saying...
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