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Here data sheet pdf until downloadable from Siglent web side.
There is an error near the end, Optional Accessories should start at where the last Standard accessory CD is listed.
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Here data sheet pdf until downloadable from Siglent web side.
There is an error near the end, Optional Accessories should start at where the last Standard accessory CD is listed.
We also noticed that, but when looking better there is a very thin line which divides standard form optionals
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True Measurement to 14 Mpoints
At any one timebase, the SDS1000X-E can measure using all 14M sample points. This ensures the accuracy of measurements while the math co-processor decreases measurement time and increases ease-of-use


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Yes it need bit clarify.

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Not sure whether this has been discussed before: How does the scope handle SPI decoding (SCL, MISO, MOSI, CS) with just two inputs?

i would assume scl + miso (or mosi) + timeout
unless in the meantime they added the third digital channel

That might work, but they explicitly list all four signals, including chip select. If you want to use that in the decoding, it seems that you can't get away with just two channels.

And the manual (page 86 ff.) bluntly explains how to set up all four signals, one after the other. Does this section refer to a different scope?

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Setup for SPI Signals
Setting the SPI (Serial Peripheral Interface) signal includes two steps: connecting the
CLK, MISO, MOSI and CS signals to oscilloscope; specifying the parameters of each
input signal.
 

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Here data sheet pdf until downloadable from Siglent web side.

Thanks. Not sure whether this has been discussed before: How does the scope handle SPI decoding (SCL, MISO, MOSI, CS) with just two inputs?

It can not do all simultaneously.
It can: SCL,  MISO  or   SCL, MOSI 
CS Type: SCL (CLK) time out.
SPI function is limited due to only 2 signal.

It looks like User manual need more accurate personalize for SDS1000X and SDS1000X-E models for SPI but also some other things.
Only SDS1000X+ can use all  together: CLK, CS,  MOSI, MISO
« Last Edit: April 07, 2017, 08:27:28 am by rf-loop »
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isn't the manual also the same for sds2000x?
 

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I don't see no area measurements (mVs / Vs) ? Even the 1000z has that. You use that to derive mAs/mAh from a current sense signal.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2017, 10:06:51 am by GeorgeOfTheJungle »
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There are other things I don't see nowhere in the pdfs:

-What's the max mem depth when the decoder in on? (it was 1.4MB (not 14!) in the 1000X)
-Can it decode up to 100ms/div sweep rate or just at 20ms/div max as the 1000X?
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There are other things I don't see nowhere in the pdfs:

-What's the max mem depth when the decoder in on? (it was 1.4MB (not 14!) in the 1000X)
-Can it decode up to 100ms/div sweep rate or just at 20ms/div max as the 1000X?

Up to 14 M points trigger and decode. (It reads in product introduction ppt)
At the moment, until further notice, max is 20ms/div.




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Up to 14 M points trigger and decode. (It reads in product introduction ppt)

that's nice.
 

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It will be interesting to see if the hardware architecture can be reverse engineered, and if it is possible to do your own software projects on this scope.

Forum user "wingel" is from Sweden and did this for the Owon SDS7102 oscilloscope:
http://hackaday.com/2016/06/29/reverse-engineering-the-owon-sds7102-oscilloscope/
 

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I wonder if it comes with the C++ compiler on board.  :popcorn:

(and VIM.  :-DD )
 

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Got a mail today from siglent.eu that the SDS1202 is avaliable for pre-order. Just for info, have no relation with seller.
Price is ex VAT (BTW in The Netherlands)


 

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That photo is incorrect.

The screen is too big. It shows the LA slot, and a blue print button. The USB is not on the right of the selection buttons.
 

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That photo is incorrect.

The screen is too big. It shows the LA slot, and a blue print button. The USB is not on the right of the selection buttons.

Really weird they use totally wrong image. :rant:  Siglent  head office have shared right images to distributors.
Selling with wrong image is least fraudulent

Here official images (resized/cropped to small size by me)
« Last Edit: April 09, 2017, 05:10:21 pm by rf-loop »
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Why do the feet on the back of the oscilloscope have a curved slope? Is that also with the other Siglent oscilloscopes? First time that I see this, actually :)
 

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That photo is incorrect.

No worries, that's the new Silgent scope in the picture, not the Siglent...  ;)
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That photo is incorrect.

No worries, that's the new Silgent scope in the picture, not the Siglent...  ;)
Welcome to the land of pluses and pulses, Siglent!
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Why do the feet on the back of the oscilloscope have a curved slope? Is that also with the other Siglent oscilloscopes? First time that I see this, actually :)

So that the back feet stay in contact with the surface when extending the front feet as in the 3rd photo ?

They look near enough identical to the CML+, but at least on the CML+ what looks like soft rubber to stop it sliding back when you press a button is actually just textured plastic - so it does slide back!
.  That took much longer than I thought it would.
 

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We should get this oscilloscope for Christer Weinigel! :)
 

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Available for preorder for 359E +vat

But no details on actual or approx shipping date!

http://www.siglent.eu/sds1202x-e.html
« Last Edit: April 10, 2017, 08:39:17 am by thanasisk »
 

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Why do the feet on the back of the oscilloscope have a curved slope? Is that also with the other Siglent oscilloscopes? First time that I see this, actually :)

Because this feets and the two support posts (at the upper corners of the backside) are there, it is possible to lay the oscilloscope flat on the back.
Would be making much more sense with a mobile (battery driven) unit...   :-//
 


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